Well, she didn’t trust anybody, particularly men. She doesn’t like men. That’s why she’s named Cher
He may not do drugs, but Bogdo talks like he has a hole in his cerebellum.
― Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2019 16:19 (five years ago) link
I can't stop thinking about "He wanted to look at a lot of movies, so I sat with him." Such an odd way to describe watching movies with your friend.
― One Eye Open, Thursday, 7 March 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link
or yr landlord
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 March 2019 19:58 (five years ago) link
Bogdo talks like he has a hole in his cerebellum.
Too-tight ascot, methinks.
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:05 (five years ago) link
was it on this thread or elsewhere that someone amusingly speculated that bogdanovich consistently wears ascots because he lost a bet long ago?
― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:13 (five years ago) link
https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpeopledotcom.files.wordpress.com%2F2016%2F09%2F1_23_89_750x1000.jpg&w=400&c=sc&poi=face&q=85
That PB Photo...
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link
almost looks like Burt Lancaster
― flappy bird, Friday, 18 October 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link
posthumously?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
The strange world of a real Rain Man.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
xp yeah maybe a decade before Atlantic City
― flappy bird, Friday, 18 October 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link
ABC's doing a two-hour true crime doc on Stratten tonight. Always blows my mind that she was only 20 when she was killed.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link
Special kind of weirdo this guy was/is. Imagine most of his contemporaries had their eyes rolling out of their skulls around him.
― circa1916, Saturday, 19 October 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link
Did you ever hear what Billy Wilder said about him?
― Beware of Mr. Blecch, er...what? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 October 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
Wow, I didn't know he was a semi-regular guest host for Carson !
― flappy bird, Sunday, 20 October 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link
Wilder:
''It isn't true that Hollywood is a bitter place, divided by hatred, greed and jealousy. All it takes to bring the community together is a flop by Peter Bogdanovich.''
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/movies/film-older-sadder-maybe-wiser.html
― flappy bird, Sunday, 20 October 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link
That's not even the full quote.
― Beware of Mr. Blecch, er...what? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 October 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link
Longer version here: Billy Wilder, the genre-jumper who would be 100 years old on June 22
― Beware of Mr. Blecch, er...what? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 October 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link
Wilder had more to say later:
I’d assumed you’d been showered with flowers.Didn’t want to touch it. Murder. After she was killed, I didn’t go out much. Then one day, about six months after it happened, I went to a dentist appointment. As I’m leaving the dentist, who’s coming up the street but Billy Wilder. I said, “Hi, Billy.” He says, “Hi.” Without even a blink, he says, “You know that whole story about the girl that got murdered? The plot is not right. It should be how … ” and he starts telling me how to fix the plot of the story of Dorothy’s murder.That might be the most fucked-up thing I’ve ever heard.Yeah, I know. This is beyond German bad taste. It’s just unbelievable bad taste. I just nodded.Apparently, after the premiere of At Long Last Love, which went very badly, Wilder said you could hear the Champagne corks popping all over town.On March 7, 1975, Vincent Canby reviewed At Long Last Love for the New York Times: “casting Cybil [sic] Shepherd in a musical comedy is like entering a horse in a cat show. She’s beautiful and lithe and has great lines, but she’s the wrong species … The bluntness and naiveté that made her so appealing and so right in Daisy Miller are simply abrasive here.” What was his deal?He was jealous. I was young and successful. He was old and hadn’t made a picture and I hadn’t written about him or done any pieces praising him. He managed to fuck up two pictures I was going to do. One was Private Lives. The executives asked him what he thought of the idea. He said, “Bad idea.” That was the end of that. You know what he did when Tony Curtis’s son died of an overdose? He sent him a telegram saying, “Like father, like son.”Do you like burying assholes? When you see your enemies’ obituaries, what do you think?Well, I wasn’t unhappy when Billy died.
Didn’t want to touch it. Murder. After she was killed, I didn’t go out much. Then one day, about six months after it happened, I went to a dentist appointment. As I’m leaving the dentist, who’s coming up the street but Billy Wilder. I said, “Hi, Billy.” He says, “Hi.” Without even a blink, he says, “You know that whole story about the girl that got murdered? The plot is not right. It should be how … ” and he starts telling me how to fix the plot of the story of Dorothy’s murder.
That might be the most fucked-up thing I’ve ever heard.
Yeah, I know. This is beyond German bad taste. It’s just unbelievable bad taste. I just nodded.
Apparently, after the premiere of At Long Last Love, which went very badly, Wilder said you could hear the Champagne corks popping all over town.On March 7, 1975, Vincent Canby reviewed At Long Last Love for the New York Times: “casting Cybil [sic] Shepherd in a musical comedy is like entering a horse in a cat show. She’s beautiful and lithe and has great lines, but she’s the wrong species … The bluntness and naiveté that made her so appealing and so right in Daisy Miller are simply abrasive here.” What was his deal?
He was jealous. I was young and successful. He was old and hadn’t made a picture and I hadn’t written about him or done any pieces praising him. He managed to fuck up two pictures I was going to do. One was Private Lives. The executives asked him what he thought of the idea. He said, “Bad idea.” That was the end of that. You know what he did when Tony Curtis’s son died of an overdose? He sent him a telegram saying, “Like father, like son.”
Do you like burying assholes? When you see your enemies’ obituaries, what do you think?
Well, I wasn’t unhappy when Billy died.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 October 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link
From the Vulture interview posted upthread.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 October 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
Billy...
― flappy bird, Monday, 21 October 2019 04:13 (four years ago) link
Don’t know if I mentioned it upthread but one time I saw him give a bookstore talk and for the first half hour or so he kept referring to “Mr. Welles” but towards the end it was just “Orson.”
― Beware of Mr. Blecch, er...what? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 October 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link
Bogdo's cameo in IT:Chapter Two was one of the highlights of 2019 cinema. He may actually have been playing himself.
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Monday, 21 October 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link
watched BR of What's Up Doc tonight...
"He tried to molest me.""That's... unbelievable."
🤣🤣🤣
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 05:24 (four years ago) link
the last picture show tonight. it helped
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 04:57 (four years ago) link
The next series of You Must Remember This is about Polly Platt!
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link
That's funny, my wife is listening to the new TCM podcast about Bogdanovich, and we were literally talking the other day about how much Karina Longworth would make of the whole Polly-Cybil story. Will definitely listen.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:25 (three years ago) link
Polly Platt -- producer, writer and Oscar-nominated production designer -- lived an epic Hollywood life. And yet, if you know Platt’s name today, it’s probably because in 1970 her husband and creative collaborator Peter Bogdanovich had an affair with Cybill Shepherd while shooting the film that launched their careers, The Last Picture Show. But Platt was much more than a jilted wife: she was the secret, often invisible-to-the-public weapon behind some of the best films of the 1970s, '80s and '90s. Drawing on Platt’s unpublished memoir, as well as ample interviews and archival research, The Invisible Woman will tell Polly Platt’s incredible story from her perspective, for the first time. New episodes will begin releasing May 26.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link
There’s “The Plot Thickens” podcast about Peter Bogdanovich on TCM with Ben Mankiewicz and Karina Longworth’s upcoming “You Must Remember This” podcast featuring Polly Platt so I am assuming the summer of 2020 is about Peter Bogdanovich and associates so am knotting the requisite bandana/ascot in anticipation/appreciation.
― Virginia Plain, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 06:41 (three years ago) link
also, I hear there's going to be a podcast about juggalos
― Elon's musk (sic), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 06:44 (three years ago) link
podcasts how do they fuckin work
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 08:21 (three years ago) link
How is that TCM one so far? Hagiography much?
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
^^ I love it. I would call it more of a career retrospective and personal biography. Ben Mankiewicz is a good host.
And I'm really dumb, because I've been watching the Sopranos over this past year, and I only noticed in the second to last episode of the final season that PB plays Dr. Elliot.
― Virginia Plain, Thursday, 7 May 2020 07:02 (three years ago) link
Platt roundup
https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6961-credit-where-credit-s-due-polly-platt
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link
Finally taking in the YMRT Platt series. Listened to the third ep (all about The Last Picture Show & Cybill) last night. What really makes it is all the extensive excerpts from her unfinished memoir, read by Maggie Siff. This installment two particularly amazing bits: the first about accidentally running into Pete & Cyb in restaurant during the TLPS shoot, and another about John Ford awkwardly reaching out to her after the split.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link
Whole series was great imo.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 13 August 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link
Yeah so much so that it kinda bugs me to talk about her in the Bog thread LOL
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 August 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link
Yes, the best season since the Manson one.
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 13 August 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link
Veg sorta otm, but it's a good place to point people toward the podcast: ten episodes, images and annotations for each of them here
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 13 August 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link
Hmm yeah, I guess that is a good point. Here’s a v good photo of herhttps://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/566943d25a5668b614270ff9/1592347686586-5ZIM3PWZO56F8CJHHI1S/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kJx_HW5Cyl_w5KuXYPdt5NN7gQa3H78H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLfrh8O1z5QPOohDIaIeljMHgDF5CVlOqpeNLcJ80NK65_fV7S1UZXeA0ox5bIY2qfOI4T9vIThY_iQi_9OWIGcNPCPunptvdSfbxHJuolZmbE9-K_NDg/PollyPlatt.PhotoCourtesyofAntoniaBogdanovich.jpg
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 August 2020 04:15 (three years ago) link
Karina Longworth’s stilted vocal mannerisms... oy
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link
Direct reaction to listeners whining that she wasn't sufficiently clear-sounding in the early seasons. Can't win.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
Yeah she knows her stuff but I just can't get past the weird enunciation. I think she could "win" if she just talked normally.
― Josefa, Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
I heard a clip of her speaking in her regular voice, and it was totally fine!
― Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Thursday, 13 August 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
Right, I saw her somewhere in Manhattan introducing a movie not long ago and no weird vocalisms then. Possibly she has some type of mike fright.
― Josefa, Thursday, 13 August 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
I saw her Criterion Closet video and she sounded totally normal. I made a note to check out the podcast but forgot, I checked it out... Jesus Christ...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 13 August 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
Direct reaction to listeners whining that she wasn't sufficiently clear-sounding in the early seasons. Can't win.― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:18 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:18 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I checked out a recent and an early episode and she sounds like a subway terminal announcer in both.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 13 August 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
Daniel_Rf is correct though, at least wrt to her heavily enunciated Ts.
I've fully acclimated to her style and don't find it bothersome at all (plus she's moved away from my own personal dislike: attempting imitations), but another point in the Platt series favor is that in addition to Siff's readings, there are lots more interviews than normal, so you hear her voice less than usual.
― rob, Thursday, 13 August 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:22 PM (yesterday)
Interesting. I found that season too depressing and kind of tangential (admittedly I didn't even finish it). It's perhaps too long, but the Blacklist season remains a high point for me. I also thought the Song of the South one was very strong.
Karina's voice haters should check out the Make Me Over season where she turns the mic entirely over to guests--for me it confirmed that Longworth is good not bad actually, but the Vanessa Williams and Marie Dressler eps are good
― rob, Thursday, 13 August 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
Maggie Siff’s readings really are so well done & thoughtfulHonestly I was truly amazed by the amount of research & hours of recorded interviews that went into this - Longworth really showed this as a passion project and didn’t spare any effort to go deep. Plus having her daughters on the record really lends some special legitimacy to telling Polly’s storyI also loved the reveal over the course of the series that Larry McMurty always held a candle for her. ❤️
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 August 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
her daughters = polly’s daughters, i meant
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 August 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link