Peter Bogdanovich, threshing machine

relatable

Well, she didn’t trust anybody, particularly men. She doesn’t like men. That’s why she’s named Cher

He may not do drugs, but Bogdo talks like he has a hole in his cerebellum.

I can't stop thinking about "He wanted to look at a lot of movies, so I sat with him." Such an odd way to describe watching movies with your friend.

or yr landlord

Bogdo talks like he has a hole in his cerebellum.

Too-tight ascot, methinks.

was it on this thread or elsewhere that someone amusingly speculated that bogdanovich consistently wears ascots because he lost a bet long ago?

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That PB Photo...

almost looks like Burt Lancaster

posthumously?

The strange world of a real Rain Man.

xp yeah maybe a decade before Atlantic City

ABC's doing a two-hour true crime doc on Stratten tonight. Always blows my mind that she was only 20 when she was killed.

Special kind of weirdo this guy was/is. Imagine most of his contemporaries had their eyes rolling out of their skulls around him.

Did you ever hear what Billy Wilder said about him?

Wow, I didn't know he was a semi-regular guest host for Carson !

Wilder:

''It isn't true that Hollywood is a bitter place, divided by hatred, greed and jealousy. All it takes to bring the community together is a flop by Peter Bogdanovich.''

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/movies/film-older-sadder-maybe-wiser.html

That's not even the full quote.

Longer version here: Billy Wilder, the genre-jumper who would be 100 years old on June 22

Wilder had more to say later:

I’d assumed you’d been showered with flowers.

Didn’t want to touch it. Murder. After she was killed, I didn’t go out much. Then one day, about six months after it happened, I went to a dentist appointment. As I’m leaving the dentist, who’s coming up the street but Billy Wilder. I said, “Hi, Billy.” He says, “Hi.” Without even a blink, he says, “You know that whole story about the girl that got murdered? The plot is not right. It should be how … ” and he starts telling me how to fix the plot of the story of Dorothy’s murder.

That might be the most fucked-up thing I’ve ever heard.

Yeah, I know. This is beyond German bad taste. It’s just unbelievable bad taste. I just nodded.

Apparently, after the premiere of At Long Last Love, which went very badly, Wilder said you could hear the Champagne corks popping all over town.On March 7, 1975, Vincent Canby reviewed At Long Last Love for the New York Times: “casting Cybil [sic] Shepherd in a musical comedy is like entering a horse in a cat show. She’s beautiful and lithe and has great lines, but she’s the wrong species … The bluntness and naiveté that made her so appealing and so right in Daisy Miller are simply abrasive here.” What was his deal?

He was jealous. I was young and successful. He was old and hadn’t made a picture and I hadn’t written about him or done any pieces praising him. He managed to fuck up two pictures I was going to do. One was Private Lives. The executives asked him what he thought of the idea. He said, “Bad idea.” That was the end of that. You know what he did when Tony Curtis’s son died of an overdose? He sent him a telegram saying, “Like father, like son.”

Do you like burying assholes? When you see your enemies’ obituaries, what do you think?

Well, I wasn’t unhappy when Billy died.

From the Vulture interview posted upthread.

Billy...

Don’t know if I mentioned it upthread but one time I saw him give a bookstore talk and for the first half hour or so he kept referring to “Mr. Welles” but towards the end it was just “Orson.”

Bogdo's cameo in IT:Chapter Two was one of the highlights of 2019 cinema. He may actually have been playing himself.

watched BR of What's Up Doc tonight...

"He tried to molest me."
"That's... unbelievable."

🤣🤣🤣

the last picture show tonight. it helped

The next series of You Must Remember This is about Polly Platt!

That's funny, my wife is listening to the new TCM podcast about Bogdanovich, and we were literally talking the other day about how much Karina Longworth would make of the whole Polly-Cybil story. Will definitely listen.

Polly Platt -- producer, writer and Oscar-nominated production designer -- lived an epic Hollywood life. And yet, if you know Platt’s name today, it’s probably because in 1970 her husband and creative collaborator Peter Bogdanovich had an affair with Cybill Shepherd while shooting the film that launched their careers, The Last Picture Show. But Platt was much more than a jilted wife: she was the secret, often invisible-to-the-public weapon behind some of the best films of the 1970s, '80s and '90s. Drawing on Platt’s unpublished memoir, as well as ample interviews and archival research, The Invisible Woman will tell Polly Platt’s incredible story from her perspective, for the first time. New episodes will begin releasing May 26.

There’s “The Plot Thickens” podcast about Peter Bogdanovich on TCM with Ben Mankiewicz and Karina Longworth’s upcoming “You Must Remember This” podcast featuring Polly Platt so I am assuming the summer of 2020 is about Peter Bogdanovich and associates so am knotting the requisite bandana/ascot in anticipation/appreciation.

also, I hear there's going to be a podcast about juggalos

podcasts how do they fuckin work

How is that TCM one so far? Hagiography much?

^^ I love it. I would call it more of a career retrospective and personal biography. Ben Mankiewicz is a good host.

And I'm really dumb, because I've been watching the Sopranos over this past year, and I only noticed in the second to last episode of the final season that PB plays Dr. Elliot.

Platt roundup

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6961-credit-where-credit-s-due-polly-platt

Finally taking in the YMRT Platt series. Listened to the third ep (all about The Last Picture Show & Cybill) last night. What really makes it is all the extensive excerpts from her unfinished memoir, read by Maggie Siff. This installment two particularly amazing bits: the first about accidentally running into Pete & Cyb in restaurant during the TLPS shoot, and another about John Ford awkwardly reaching out to her after the split.

Whole series was great imo.

Yeah so much so that it kinda bugs me to talk about her in the Bog thread LOL

Yes, the best season since the Manson one.

Veg sorta otm, but it's a good place to point people toward the podcast: ten episodes, images and annotations for each of them here

Hmm yeah, I guess that is a good point.

Here’s a v good photo of her
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Karina Longworth’s stilted vocal mannerisms... oy

Direct reaction to listeners whining that she wasn't sufficiently clear-sounding in the early seasons. Can't win.

Yeah she knows her stuff but I just can't get past the weird enunciation. I think she could "win" if she just talked normally.

I heard a clip of her speaking in her regular voice, and it was totally fine!

Right, I saw her somewhere in Manhattan introducing a movie not long ago and no weird vocalisms then. Possibly she has some type of mike fright.

I saw her Criterion Closet video and she sounded totally normal. I made a note to check out the podcast but forgot, I checked it out... Jesus Christ...

Direct reaction to listeners whining that she wasn't sufficiently clear-sounding in the early seasons. Can't win.

― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:18 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I checked out a recent and an early episode and she sounds like a subway terminal announcer in both.

Daniel_Rf is correct though, at least wrt to her heavily enunciated Ts.

I've fully acclimated to her style and don't find it bothersome at all (plus she's moved away from my own personal dislike: attempting imitations), but another point in the Platt series favor is that in addition to Siff's readings, there are lots more interviews than normal, so you hear her voice less than usual.

Yes, the best season since the Manson one.

― Steppin' RZA (sic), Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:22 PM (yesterday)

Interesting. I found that season too depressing and kind of tangential (admittedly I didn't even finish it). It's perhaps too long, but the Blacklist season remains a high point for me. I also thought the Song of the South one was very strong.

Karina's voice haters should check out the Make Me Over season where she turns the mic entirely over to guests--for me it confirmed that Longworth is good not bad actually, but the Vanessa Williams and Marie Dressler eps are good

Maggie Siff’s readings really are so well done & thoughtful

Honestly I was truly amazed by the amount of research & hours of recorded interviews that went into this - Longworth really showed this as a passion project and didn’t spare any effort to go deep. Plus having her daughters on the record really lends some special legitimacy to telling Polly’s story

I also loved the reveal over the course of the series that Larry McMurty always held a candle for her. ❤️