Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

apart from which, and i could be wrong here, but then again i'm not writing for the guardian about it, everything i've ever read about attitudes to immigrants says it's people with the least first-hand experience living cheek by jowl with "them" that have the worst attitudes. but hey, don't let that stop you making unsourced speculation about what is "probably" the reason behind the dramatic statistic that provided the basis for the headline on your "most viewed" article of the day

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xxp pretty much a broad swathe of the well paid and recognisable commenters do this publicly on twitter every single day to the extent of following troll accounts that mock him and liking tweets that justify him being harassed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i'm not sure

Nadeem Badshah - but it's straight out of the book of James Ball data journalism.

No the actual wording was by Andrew Sparrow, I went back and checked. Not that I’d ever insinuate he has dodgy views on that liveblog...

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/mar/12/i-met-my-girlfriends-parents-and-realised-i-had-once-slept-with-her-father

She is not as bad as Mariella but this is really, really bad advice

"Five years ago, I went through a bi phase and used to sleep around with pretty much everyone that came along, including other men"

this is kind of what "bi" has to mean in this context isn't it? (i.e. it's a man speaking plus he's already said he slept with the dad?)

L.A.F.F Like a Fatherfucker.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/mar/12/i-met-my-girlfriends-parents-and-realised-i-had-once-slept-with-her-father

She is not as bad as Mariella but this is really, really bad advice

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:09 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

would your advice be "tell your girlfriend you've shagged her da then propose"?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/12/tell-fiancee-i-am-bisexual-and-had-sex-with-her-dad-mariella-frostrup

She does manage to provide exactly the same advice as Mariella did 4 years ago though...

If so, life truly is stranger than fiction.

Quite, Mariella.

I agree with the tail end of the alphabet, just tell her and see if you can work it out. Far better than vanishing into thin air.

by telling her you'd be potentially breaking up her parent's marriage and badly affecting her relationship with her father

I am not sure about what the advice would be, exactly, but just disappearing -- and also writing that up in such a casual way -- surely isn't it?!

by "walk away" i assume she means break-off the relationship, not necessarily ghost

Telling her wouldn't be my advice. I don't know - was just sorta taken aback about the advice and the way it was given (I'd like to see some thinking about the situation)

how do you break up with her? do you just make something up. that seems really weird.

i'd rat totally her dad out since he is at every stage the villain here (assuming i got myself in this ticklish situation which er)

My advice would be, the next time they have sex, to casually say, "You're even better than your dad".

Even worse, “wow, feels just like your dad’s.”

The author had a weird incest question last week too...

how do you break up with her? do you just make something up. that seems really weird.

― plax (ico), Tuesday, March 12, 2019 1:07 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it does.

telling her that you've shagged her da also seems weird

how hard can it be to fake your own death?

See if his mum can be persuaded to make out with his fiancee then they’re quits.

Maybe haven’t thought this through fully.

it's a toughie

I'd say marry and pay more frequent visits to the lovely new in-laws to be even more evil.

I’m[29/F] dating my husband’s[55/M] ex wife[49/F]. How do I tell him? pic.twitter.com/OWoT3ptjht

— relationships.txt (@redditships) March 12, 2019

how do you break up with her? do you just make something up. that seems really weird.

― plax (ico), Tuesday, March 12, 2019 1:07 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it does.

telling her that you've shagged her da also seems weird

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 20:15 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I suspect this may be one of the better things that has happened to the dad, a bit further down the road

i feel like i took a pretty strident stance on this issue yesterday and I'm not sure why.

definitely an intractable conundrum

both have a lot to lose by saying anything, so they should just agree to never ever mention it.

maybe that's terrible advice too.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/04/brexit-brexiteers-brincels-ultras-war-martyrdom

not sure you've really thought your etymology thru here

the state of this:

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f0be5f9a91e71ef4a4e45fd26c3ff2f2adf8c22e/0_0_9000_9000/master/9000.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=4df23a51184580a838c7d4f9c82a70d6

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2019/apr/13/four-easter-chocolate-paul-a-young-recipes-desserts-torte-truffles-cake-praline

Dear Guardian, the front cover of your 'Feast' supplement, and the photo above appear to show Cadbury's Crème Eggs set in solid chocolate; the moulding on the sides of those eggs definitely says 'Cadbury's' to me.

I am no longer sure what your target audience is; many of your readers would think themselves fairly interested and sophisticated in terms of food; many of your readers are probably pretty competent cooks. But at Easter - which regardless of it's religious connotations, is a landmark seasonal event - your front cover appears juvenile. Please consider the entirety of your readership...some of us are over ten years old.

#prayforpraline

Those are definitely Cadbury’s despite the recipe telling you to make your own. Outrageous.

I think we can say, definitively, after this latest outrage, that the Guardian is worse than it used to be.

I would imagine it's down to whoever's job it is to actually make the recipes for the photos saying, as any normal person would, "make your own creme eggs? fuck that shit".

where the hell would you get "hollow, hen sized chocolate eggs" from anyway.

What came first, the hollow hen-sized chocolate egg or the hollow hen-sized chocolate chicken?

Seems notable that Moreno / Guaido both chose The Guardian as their primary mouthpiece:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/15/letters-support-claim-julian-assange-would-not-be-extradited-to-us

Exclusive interviews, leaked / exclusive info, etc. They seem to have cultivated high-level contacts both in government and in the security services in Ecuador. This backfired when Luke Harding’s ‘scoop’ about Manafort meeting with Assange couldn’t be substantiated but they are still acting, more or less, as the scribe for Moreno and friends.

lovely fawning interview with war criminal and murderer marine a in today's edition

Headcam footage caught Blackman shooting the Taliban fighter, who had been seriously injured by an attack helicopter, at point-blank range. He was heard saying: “Shuffle off this mortal coil, you cunt. It’s nothing you wouldn’t do to us.”

Blackman insisted that at the time he thought the man was dead. “With hindsight I’m willing to accept he probably wasn’t,” he said. But if he had not shot him, the Taliban fighter would have died of his injuries, he said. “If he hadn’t been dead at the time, his injuries were so horrific that he was never going to survive.”

Asked whether he thought about the man very often, Blackman said: “Honestly, no. It might seem harsh. I don’t think his outcome was going to change. He was going to pass away.”

He said he had no idea where the Shakespeare reference in his imprecation came from. “I’m not a fan of Shakespeare,” he said. “Perhaps it’s a good indicator I wasn’t thinking well. I was plucking things out of thin air. It was one of the most bizarre things.”

Blackman said he had not felt hatred for the man. “It’s easy to develop a hatred of the enemy. I tried to get the lads to put it in perspective. The Taliban used IEDs [improvised explosive devices] and shoot-and-scoot and ambush tactics because that’s the best they’d got. We used attack helicopters and drones.”

but it's fine though cuz he was mentally ill and anyway did u know war is actually quite hard, even the blatantly illegal ones

A book he has written about the case – Marine A: My Toughest Battle – is now being published. It describes the terrible conditions Blackman and his colleagues operated in. Close friends were killed and dreadfully injured and the threat of attack by the Taliban was constant.

cluelessly signing up to a war in another country you have no understanding of and saying "shuffle off this mortal coil, you cunt" before you murder someone is the most real england thing of all time

Mortal coil quote more Parrot Sketch than Hamlet I'm willing to speculate.

asking a murderer whether they were consciously quoting shakespeare as they did their murdering is the most real guardian thing of all time

tom d otm

Looking forward to the similar treatment of a bestselling book by an ISIS executioner.

That "Allahu Akbar" quote, what made you think of that?

In frothier matters concerning veterans of the Afghan crisis, I was mildly annoyed by Arwa Mahdawi saying that Pete Buttigeig's choice of 10 books is "incredibly pretentious". (Mahdawi's article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/17/julian-assange-dominic-raab-literary-signalling-gore-vidal-arwa-mahdawi) (Buttigeig's here: http://onegrandbooks.com/shop/curators/pete-buttigieg/)

I meant to say "war" not "crisis".

That Guardian write-up is the usual libs getting pissy and insecure but I don't like the terms by which Pete Buttigeig praises it. I don't understand what it means for Ulysses to be democratic. Having said that I'm impressed by that list (Palace Walk) that you feel he has actually read it and it's def not fucking signalling.

Ulysses is democratic in that Joyce was the least "celebrating ubermenschen"y of all the Modernists who wrote in English maybe

i think the 'middle class guy' bit is weirder. I think ulysses-as-democratic-book is fairly well-established (eg it's John Carey's take - ie human or fleshy/social/demotic contra machine/elitism/intellectualism).

the sunny weather, day off, fact I've got to pop into the butcher's now, and prospect of booze this evening is making me want to dip into ulysses now so thread delivers.