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okay check it out. The guy in the middle of this picture: http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/whatsandythinking.sized.jpg
is andy loftus. The body language by Andy in this picture: http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/Diehls-Party/andy_loftus
is the only picture in the entire canon in which anybody's body language says anything positive or intimate about Wayne. Also, Andy's somewhat goonie-looking, like Wayne. I'm guessing Andy's a classic man of two worlds; the geeks and the nihilistic assholes (the latter probably via being on the track team with Ryan or something, doesn't matter). He knows Wayne from, like, his job at Burger King or something and he dragged him along to this party.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

job at burger king?? duude harsh

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Can anybody make out the tattoo on Andy's left forearm?

kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

The guy in the middle of this picture ... is andy loftus.

No, he's just Andy. We don't know his last name. Loftus is "Wayne's" name.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

god, these folks probably refer to Wayne as "Loftus," don't they?

"hey loftus, go get us some more beers"

kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

They refer to him as Loftus in the filename of the picture, because they've got another Tom there as well.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

"hey loftus, you can get us past this stage in mario, right? here, do it, willya?"

xpost could they not also refer to him as such at the party?

kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Can anybody make out the tattoo on Andy's left forearm?

I think it says TIGGLES in Olde English script. Andy's Myspace name is "A TIGGLES." His last name, perhaps? Or a nickname?

Another view, with his bros:

http://myspace-838.vo.llnwd.net/00347/83/80/347750838_l.jpg

More trivia about Andy: HUGE metal fan, esp Pantera. Girlfriend's name is Ashlee.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think that Andy's last name is Loftus, as the jpg name to this one suggests otherwise.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Hello, I've missed the whole of this thread. Please tell me what's happened.

Vintage Latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

who knew wayne would be the keeper??

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

wow! hoagies AND steaks!

kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

you guys are right; wayne is Loftus and Andy's not.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

CAST OF CHARACTERS

Tommy Loftus: a/k/a/ Wayne, "Hooters," "shadeball"

Ryan Diehl: currently stationed in Iraq

Megan: girl on left in original photo, Diehl's girlfriend

John Tansey: another dude at party

Firco: Tansey's girlfriend?

Laurel: girl on right in original photo

Pete: dude in West Chester sweatshirt at party

Caitlyn: not at party, but active on Diehl's message board and Myspace

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Still trying to figure out who the dude sitting next to Laurel on the bed is, but I don't think I can keep opening up flashing Day-Glo Myspace pages at work today...

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, obviously, I forgot:

Andy "Tiggles": details above

Tommy Turnbull: childhood friend of Diehl's; his mom even posts on the message board

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

About hookers, no?

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

sadly, for both the men, the girls will soon be gone with a shaky excuse.

http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/albums/Diehls-Party/bye.sized.jpg

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

(xpost) Practically:

Hey Ryan! It's me Mrs. T. I just wanted to wish you a Happy 20th Birthday!!! It's so hard to believe you are that old. It seems like just yesterday that you and Tommy were looking at Mr. T's Playboy magazines and setting fires.....I'm glad I didn't know all the stuff you guys got into, but you did get caught at a lot......Anyhow, hope all is well over there and you're able to celebrate a little. Stay safe and well.
Mrs. Turnbull

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

wow, this thread was made for jaymc.

uhh xpost

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I wish I got paid for this.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

you are the dj martian for random people on the internet.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Diehl is back from Iraq. At least his myspace page would suggest so.

"readers-only"?

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I think you're right, Sam.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder how he's faring?

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

jaymc, you know how they say one should love one's work? That when you find what you love to do, it becomes so much less of a "job"? Well, seriously, you should transition your skills into some kind of profitable career.
whoa, holy xpost!!

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

jaymc: private eye!!!

POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't think meagan is diehl's gf anymore. his myspace page says single and she's not in his top 8...

tehresa (tehresa), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh snap.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Is she on Myspace at all, though?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"Dear John"

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link

we are all guardian angels.

Peter Densmore (pbnmyj), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Is he dating Danielle now?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

he is "single"

maybe they are talking, but she doesn't leave comments for him...

tehresa (tehresa), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

still nothing re: buildings :(

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link

It's sleeptime in Finland right now, ken.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

that owl's totally staring at my boobs.jpg

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:37 (eighteen years ago) link

someone could use this thread as the jumping-off point for a sundance-award-winning documentary. looking for wayne.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link

(roger ebert would say it "raises more questions than it answers about the line between public and private in the internet age." gawker would call it "sorrow and the pity for the myspace generation." dr. morbius and armond white would hate it. wayne would get a miller lite ad.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

one of the philly ilxors should stake out the king of prussia hooters and wait for wayne's inevitable return...

tehresa (tehresa), Thursday, 2 February 2006 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i changed my mind, the documentary should just be called king of prussia

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 2 February 2006 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Or maybe that should be the title of the recurring weekly thread!

Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 2 February 2006 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link

"You and Me and Everyone we Don't Know"

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

what IS wayne doing with two beers in this? http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/gallery/Diehls-Party/andy_loftus

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 2 February 2006 04:25 (eighteen years ago) link

okay, i WENT to west chester university for a semester, and have been to a few extremely lame parties in a friend's apartment right across from the university, and i've been to the KOP Hooters and i drive by it often. i could easily show this pic (and entire thread) to a number of people i know and could probably get some answers. however... why? isn't it more fun this way?

killy (baby lenin pin), Thursday, 2 February 2006 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i WENT to west chester university for a semester

Do you know Pete?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 2 February 2006 05:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i could easily show this pic (and entire thread) to a number of people i know and could probably get some answers. however... why? isn't it more fun this way?

No, please do it! We want to get to the bottom of this! We may feel all empty and purposeless after everything's solved, like someone who's tried to conquer the North Pole for his whole life and finally succeeds in it, but isn't it so with every great journey? There'll be new adventures ahead of us still!

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 2 February 2006 06:54 (eighteen years ago) link

It's striking that after some 700 posts that have elicited stacks of information about Diehl and his friends, we still know literally nothing about Wayne, except that his name might possibly be Loftus.

Diehl comes across as a bit of two-dimensional jerk, albeit one with a certain jock-type charisma that attracts some girls. If he wanted to, Diehl could probably set up a threesome with the two girls. Wayne is painfully lacking in any charsima, jock-type or otherwise. He seems so different from Diehl that I'm guessing they're not friends, but that someone else invited Wayne to the party, as suggested up-thread.

I'm also guessing that Wayne is a bit more of an interesting character than Diehl and co. He's not shown in his best light at the Diehl party, because he's a fish out of water, feeling awkward and uncomfortable. He looks like a total loser but he's just more of a quiet, introspective type. The evidence for the prosecution is of course the Hooters t-shirt. But that could be a)not reflecting his real character but an attempt to ingratiate himself into the redneck culture in which he finds himself, or b)he might have a weekend kitchen job at Hooters. Unlike Diehl, Wayne hasn't gone straight from school into the army. He's probably studying at a nearby college. I think he might even have a girlfriend, although she's going to be a bit plainer and weightier than the two girls in the source photo.

Sarah B., Thursday, 2 February 2006 09:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I bet he's a Capricorn.

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 2 February 2006 10:05 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost - nicely said Susan

Can I just say I was feeling like total shit yesterday - had a terrible cold - could not function on any level - accept to sit wrapped in a blanket at the computer staring like a fool at the screen - but this thread totally cured me. To-day I am feeling much better...I thank you all.

And, back in 1981 (different bedroom/different t-shirt (probably iron Maiden) but same sitting on the bed feeling totally out of it) I WAS Wayne (Tommy), and it all turned out good in the end.

Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Thursday, 2 February 2006 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link


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