aww, shit
― kolarov spring (NickB), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 11:28 (five years ago) link
Siegbran, I think that's a relatively narrow EDM definition?
I might be liberally clumping in the post-"dubstep" stuff under EDM, but my understanding (and limited experience) is that a large portion of the acts at modern EDM festivals is the drop-heavy rippling bass stuff. Which is more Prodigy-indebted, but much less radio friendly.
Half of the stuff thrown into dj sets by a couple edm acts that were playing at a side stage at a festival I was at last year were playing 90% stuff that sounded like post-Skrillex with rap vocals tossed in.
― mh, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 14:56 (five years ago) link
Hmm yeah that goes to show that EDM as a tag isn't very useful in discussing this stuff (in the wider definition even Moroder and the Pet Shop Boys fall under it), I was indeed more referring to the narrower "country/pop singer dropping inspirational lyrics over a huge anthemic build/drop" EDM, but yeah that (post)dubstep stuff is of course totally indebted to The Prodigy.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:09 (five years ago) link
country/pop singer dropping inspirational lyrics over a huge anthemic build/drop
Based on admittedly anecdotal evidence, EDM's definition has narrowed down over the years, and this appears to be its prevalent meaning nowadays. I might be wrong, though.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link
my definition is "stuff that plays at events like Electric Daisy Carnival that isn't a legacy act or dance genre that I'd like (that is probably playing a small side stage for old people)"
― mh, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link
The bit about the 5k is especially sad. I haven't been touched by serious depression or suicidal thoughts. I just know that for me, exercise is such a life-affirming activity.
I don't really know anything about Keith or the Prodigy, but there's been such an outpouring of grief from so many people I wouldn't have expected a connection. I'm sorry for all you who were fans.
― ☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link
that photo of keith running checks out - looks like he only started doing parkrun just a couple of weeks ago
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/results/athleteresultshistory/?athleteNumber=5457329
― kolarov spring (NickB), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link
not bad times either for someone just starting out
― kolarov spring (NickB), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7800/46392084864_01710c36f3_c.jpg
― kolarov spring (NickB), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link
The bit about the 5k is especially sad. I haven't been touched by serious depression or suicidal thoughts. I just know that for me, exercise is such a life-affirming activity.Yeah, I've been doing parkrun for just over two years and personally know a couple of people who are in a much better place mentally since they started doing it. There's usually such a friendly community around the events too.
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link
I'm listening to 'No Tourists'. It's... yeah, it sounds like what you'd expect it to sound like. But will anyone here vouch for post FOTL Prodigy?
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 7 June 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
Yes.
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 7 June 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
Yes but not in large quantities.
― Siegbran, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link
I'm not sure I'd particularly vouch for FoTL.
― chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link
"Funky Shit" and "Serial Thrilla" might be the worst things they've ever recorded
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 7 June 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link
The last track with the woman from Republica is rubbish as well.
― chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
Breathe and Firestarter haven't aged massively well. Smack My Bitch Up still bangs though.
― chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link
And the Crispy Mills one still sounds surprisingly decent.
― chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link
FOTL is a great EP ("Smack My Bitch Up", "Diesel Power", "Mindfields", "Narayan", "Climbatize") with some decent filler ("Firestarter", "Breathe") and some total horseshit (the rest, although "Fuel My Fire" is at least bad in an entertaining way)
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 7 June 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link
That's solidly OTM.
― chap, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link
Can't remember Climbatize though!
The instrumental towards the end.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 June 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link
I quite like Naryan. Climbatize is good in a "let's do Weather Experience again" way. The two lead singles are great but I never need to hear then again. Don't care much for the rest really.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 7 June 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link
"Diesel Power" rules
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 7 June 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link
wow, i completely forgot "Fuel My Fire" existed... in my head it sounds pretty good.... but i think this might be an album where glancing at the tracklist and thinking about the hooks it seems like an all-killer-no-filler album, but i'm actually forgetting some exhausting digressions because WOW it's 56 minutes long?!
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:28 (two years ago) link
“Serial Thrilla” is 200% enervating
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 7 June 2021 22:32 (two years ago) link
Yeah it’s too long for such a monochromatic album, but drop Firestarter (I never need to hear that ever again), Funky Shit and Fuel My Fire and you’re done.
― Siegbran, Monday, 7 June 2021 23:11 (two years ago) link
"Smack My Bitch Up" is the single I've really tired of. "Breathe" got the most play on the alternative station I listened to in the 90s but I never hear it anymore and enjoy it nowadays. "Mindfields" and "Narayan" quietly the best tracks on the album
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link
yeah now that you mention it, "Breathe" has not really been super overplayed, for how big it was that year. i don't think any of the more "electronica" side of 90s alt rock has crossed over to the "alt rock is now classic rock" thing. or even the relevant xm genre stations.
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 01:27 (two years ago) link
DJP, do a best prodigy tracks from 1998 onward
― mh, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 01:32 (two years ago) link
1. Girls (Rex The Dog Remix)
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 02:04 (two years ago) link
sic otm
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 05:56 (two years ago) link
Yeah that one is excellent. My DJ trick at the time was to mix the acappella from Breathe'n'Stop over it
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 07:27 (two years ago) link
The beat drop on Narayan in incredible.
― chap, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 08:33 (two years ago) link
Spitfire (05 Version), Girls, Take Me To The Hospital, Warrior's Dance, The Day Is My Enemy (Liam Howlett Remix), Timebomb Zone that's my other picks.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 08:49 (two years ago) link
I've listened to so much Prodge in the last 24 hrs. Strange to listen to No Tourists and then go straight back to Experience. There was definitely a point in their career where they stopped caring about coming up with new ideas and decided to keep using the same template - even down to the drum/break sounds Liam uses from Invaders onwards.
I'm definitely someone who got off after hearing FOTL, but I've heard Always Outnumbered and Invaders a few times out in the wild. Gonna give Always Outnumbered a spin now - my guess is that it's going to be marginally more listenable than FOTL at this point.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 08:53 (two years ago) link
Also, the Sub Focus remix of Smack My Bitch Up (from 2005) goes in hard.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:05 (two years ago) link
All these years later mind a bit blown by Jeff Mills having a credit on 'Warriors Dance' because of the 'Take Me Away' sample. I never realised he was part of Final Cut.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:21 (two years ago) link
best post-98 Prodigy: excluding the Dirtchamber mix, Howlett's own remix of You Will Be Under My Wheels
― nashwan, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:24 (two years ago) link
Breezeblock mix was ‘98 so that counts imo
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:57 (two years ago) link
forgot about this (pre-98 but still great)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lEtgbT8v4k
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:42 (two years ago) link
Man, Climbatize is easily one of the best tracks on FOTL. Serial Thrilla is the worst.
I had a listen to 3 Kilos off of Jilted earlier - so good, and nothing like how they usually sound. They were great at doing those more chilled, funky tracks and it's strange they didn't do more of them
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:46 (two years ago) link
off the top of my head without relistening and without digging into remixes (because tbh I haven't heard a bunch of them yet, I've mostly just rattled around the albums)
GirlsGet Up Get OffHotrideYou'll Be Under My WheelsOmenTake Me To The HospitalWarrior's DanceWorld's On FireThe Day Is My Enemy(there was another track off of The Day Is My Enemy that I REALLY liked but of course I can't remember it now)
I don't know No Tourists well enough to pick any tracks off of it
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:35 (two years ago) link
Cheers, I've whacked those into a playlist with a couple of No Tourists tracks
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6EVnNNVYCizndzOBXdMn7c?si=8fa33b4a3b034dfc
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link
btw I left Stand Up off my list; really Invaders Must Die is a great album, a lot better overall than Fat Of The Land
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link
oh also Wake Up Call goes pretty hard
― 80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link
i love the prodigy vs dubstep era.the productions levels finally met their needs.the 2nd cd that came with the special edition of 'invaders must die', proved the point for me.for all the classics, i have always chosen the recent material when in the mood purely cos of the insane sonics.and 'no tourists' is so much fun.even though it totally sonically references their history (pretty sure that liam acknowledged this at the time of its release).
― mark e, Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
I agree, individually these newer songs are all pretty impressive sound-wise, but over a whole album it gets really hard to listen to. Then again, I’m too old.
― Siegbran, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
yeah, cos of this thread just listened to 'no tourists' again, and absolutely love it.a definite case of 'all killer no filler'.the fact it's a short album means you don't get time to become bored.yeah, its a retread of well worn prodigy tropes, but it totally works for me.
― mark e, Friday, 11 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link