The Jordan Peterson Thread

kinda want some mozz sticks

What is the exact format of this gonna be, I wonder?

eat-off

first to suffer multisystem organ failure loses

i imagine zizek basically having a fried egg, kielbasa, and a stein of beer for every meal

or whatever the slovenian equivalent of kielbasa is

what does zizek eat? i always imagine it's like mozzarella sticks mostly

from the trashcan called ideology, obvs

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sorry: a fried egg, kielbasa, a stein of beer, and some blow

will def be eating JP's lunch

This is @jordanbpeterson and a fan during his speaking tour in New Zealand.

February 19th, 2019. Less than one month ago. pic.twitter.com/kQzhY39eSl

— Dan Taipua (@D__T_____) March 15, 2019

Speech so free it wrecks spelling conventions.

We really are being held hostage by clowns like JP aren't we

is that aled jones??

slam a phobe (with an egg)

Predictably, nothing happened:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/20/jordan-peterson-slavoj-zizek-happiness-capitalism-marxism

the quintessential quillette article:

https://quillette.com/2019/07/26/why-isnt-jordan-peterson-on-this-list-of-the-worlds-top-fifty-intellectuals/

(Russell) Brand’s continuing influence on the political culture in England, at least, is often underestimated.

lol counterpoint, it isn't.

Who wrote that fuckin headline?

probably the manbaby piece of shit who wrote the article.

David Goodhart, and his successor as editor Bronwen Maddox (2010-2016), described Prospect as “contrarian,” or “a magazine which gives voice to the argumentative centre ground.” But, in truth, Prospect was, until 2016, the voice of the London-based liberal Establishment.

a shocking revelation

this is solid

Andrew Scott
July 26, 2019

How does one measure others’ “intellectualism” in any way? Why would anyone take such a list seriously? How could such a list be anything other than a self-serving popularity contest? How arrogant to consider oneself qualified to identify, evaluate, and rank great intellects and top thinkers.

It’s like a GQ article about what real men do. Real men don’t read that crap.

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Martin28
July 26, 2019
To not include Jordan Peterson is a sin. To ignore Nassim Nicholas Taleb is a crime.

according to Trump's new executive order

The interviewer and stand-up comic Joe Rogan (for example) reaches over 5.8 million subscribers on his YouTube channel. Discussions on The Joe Rogan Experience frequently range around complex issues in current affairs and philosophy. Why has Rogan been left off Prospect’s list?

indeed, why?

https://nypost.com/2019/09/20/jordan-peterson-enters-rehab-after-wifes-cancer-diagnosis/

I want to see Peterson as a Soundcloud rapper photoshops

Can't bring myself to feel any glee over this

The constant crying makes more sense in the context of him being addicted to clonazepam.

lol

tried to make me eat some fibre, I said no no no

His daughter replaced opioid constipation with 36oz of red meat a day constipation, that's rough.

there should be a strip about him in viz

Can't bring myself to feel any glee over this

Same. He has yet to reach the DJT tier of schadenfreude.

my god can you imagine being stuck in rehab and fucking Peterson shows up at group

I’m amazed that anybody could be as strongly opinionated as JP while regularly dosing with klonopin, unless something else is going on beyond anxiety.

I'm never amazed at how much cognitive dissonance anybody's capable of tbh

OK maybe sometimes a little amazed

having been a clonazepam addict i cannot gloat over anybody else having to go through that. i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. in peterson's case, that's not necessarily a theoretical statement.

I had already forgotten about this man's existence.

I was gonna say he really fell off the radar (predictably) but I guess his wife's illness had something to do with that.

Yucking it up at his addiction seems low for this forum. I'm aware of JP from Maps of Meaning and his appearances on Joe Rogan. He didn't come off to me then as the alt-right hero that it appears he is now. Perhaps fame fueled his vanity and provocateur instincts. I'm no apologist but this thread hammers his boiled salt beef, no xir broad points and misses his scholarship on mythology and history. I had The Gulag Archipelago on my bookshelf for years. JP encouraged me to read it. Is there no merit to JP?

OK maybe sometimes a little amazed

Is there no merit to JP?

― Yelploaf

nope, thanks for asking

misses his scholarship on mythology and history

xxp - I'm not gonna die on this hill but when you say there is no merit to JP, what is the scope of your assessment? Is it his regressive fanbase that he doesn't distance himself from that is the deal-breaker, his contemptible dandy persona, his hucksterish self-improvement philosopy/business, his deep understanding and synthesis of niche academia? Just curious.

It is my understanding based on reviews of/essays on his work that his "scholarship on mythology and history" is largely half-baked, surface-level bullshit. So basically, if he was forced to stand or fall based on his academic work no one would ever have heard of him, and it's only his career as a chud whisperer that's of any interest at all. It's good that he inspired you to read a book, but that should not be taken as a sign that his own work has any value.

I'm no apologist but this thread hammers his boiled salt beef, no xir broad points and misses his scholarship on mythology and history.

having dipped into maps of meaning (sensing a fellow mesopotamian mythology obsessive) it's precisely this stuff that scares me about him, tbh more so than tilting against pronouns. he probably doesn't think of himself this way or even consider his historical/mythological/philosophical stuff "political" but in the future where we come out the other side of this transitional period having installed full functioning fascism, everything jordan peterson feels about life and the universe, from the bottom up, stands ready to confer legitimacy upon it and finally make him the court intellectual he'd like to be. he has a corporatist vision of history in which strife and conflict are varieties of moral illness inhibiting the harmonious function of the different organs he thinks it's chaos-dragon talk to call classes. he somehow takes from the metamorphic psychedelia of ancient mythology reassurance about the clarity and immutability of gender categories. he grows more strident and categorical at the same rate that he grows more mushily mystical. this last one is a particularly red flag imo and there are books you could read about the things he talks about that aren't trying to sell you on rightwing mythopoetics while either pretending not to or not realizing it.

also everything about his personal presence suggests to me a bottomless and barely restrained hunger for something tbh. he is the classic type that you read about decades later like "before the regime came to power, he struggled with depression and despite his success often seemed adrift, but"

counterpoint tho: of the party guests in "who goes nazi?", maybe there is a little of him in this one

Mr. G is a very intellectual young man who was an infant prodigy. He has been concerned with general ideas since the age of ten and has one of those minds that can scintillatingly rationalize everything. I have known him for ten years and in that time have heard him enthusiastically explain Marx, social credit, technocracy, Keynesian economics, Chestertonian distributism, and everything else one can imagine. Mr. G will never be a Nazi, because he will never be anything. His brain operates quite apart from the rest of his apparatus. He will certainly be able, however, fully to explain and apologize for Nazism if it ever comes along. But Mr. G is always a “deviationist.” When he played with communism he was a Trotskyist; when he talked of Keynes it was to suggest improvement; Chesterton’s economic ideas were all right but he was too bound to Catholic philosophy. So we may be sure that Mr. G would be a Nazi with purse-lipped qualifications. He would certainly be purged.

don't think so tho.