immigrants, expatriates, longterm residents in a foreign land, whatever you want to be called

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I live in the country of my birth and would be potentially be open to leaving, as long as I could find somewhere suitably cold and miserable to replace it.

ShariVari, Monday, 4 March 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link

i hate the term expat.

im an immigrant to canada. will have been here 7 years on july 4th.

i can apply for citizenship in october, and I'm going to do so.

im ambivalent about living here. i would likely prefer to live at home in glasgow. but life has moved on without me there, and it would be quite like starting from scratch again for me to move home - have grown apart from friends or they've moved away, would need to find a job, and a flat, would be a whole production. immigration would also be tricky/impossible for my gf who is canadian.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 March 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link

Canadian citizen who inherited french citizenship from immigrating parents.

I am very happy here thank you, no way I'm ever going to live in France.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 March 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link

live in the country of my birth. lived in another country for 3 years, not sure if that counts as a long period. I don't feel like I really did anything of use there so perhaps not. it definitely made me appreciate things about the UK, although mainly things that are disappearing.

kinder, Monday, 4 March 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

As much as I adore Montreal (more so than Quebec and Canada tbh), I've never felt completely at home there either. From a purely cultural and intellectual perspective, I much preferred the years I spent in France. The lows were lower but the highs were higher, as well. That said, I'm not sure it makes up for the casual xenophobia and lazy elitism.

I don't see myself moving back to Romania (because my wife isn't Romanian, among innumerable reasons) and staying in the UK past 2020 is a highly unlikely and frankly undesirable prospect at this stage. I'm sick and tired of wandering about yet I can't think of a single place where I would want to settle for good. First world problems, I guess?

pomenitul, Monday, 4 March 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

post brexit uk will *wish* for first world problems

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:37 (five years ago) link

oh yeah brexit. forgot to mention that in my post

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link

i went to china in 2006, lived there off and on until 2014, all time back in canada usually preparing to find a way to go back or go somewhere else. if it was easier to settle down there, i'd probably be there still.
in japan since 2015, mostly waiting on longterm residency. i feel like it's more likely i'll move to bangkok (or somewhere else with good cost of living, inexpensive international schools, easy to get a visa) than back home. at a certain point, i think if you didn't stay in your hometown or buy a house and have minimal connections that there's not much pull, at least that's been my experience. but i wonder if eventually some deeper homesickness kicks in?

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link

USA for life baby 🇺🇸

⅋ (crüt), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:43 (five years ago) link

The US is probably the sole Western country where I would never want to settle. Get rid of Trump, implement universal healthcare, abolish the death penalty, confiscate everyone's guns, etc., then we'll talk.

pomenitul, Monday, 4 March 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link

I do love the city I live in, mostly, tbf. Just want to see other cultures and would rather have a concrete reason to be alienated rather than my own inadequacies

See me in mi heels an' tinge (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:50 (five years ago) link

option 1: citizen of US, perm resident of chile right now. The best thing about going back to the US is Trader Joes. That is it. Maybe the sushi lunch specials in ny too.

Yerac, Monday, 4 March 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

at a certain point, i think if you didn't stay in your hometown or buy a house and have minimal connections that there's not much pull, at least that's been my experience. but i wonder if eventually some deeper homesickness kicks in?

― XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Monday, March 4, 2019 10:41 AM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's a good question. are you homesick at all at the moment?

i lived the first 27 years of my life within 10 miles of the hospital where i was born. i miss home all the time and have done since i left

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 March 2019 19:26 (five years ago) link

I've lived in England for nearly 20 years, I don't know if that counts, LOL UK.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Monday, 4 March 2019 19:29 (five years ago) link

i live in my native country. never say never, but it certainly feels like i will most likely not leave.

i've traveled enough to realize how lucky i am to live here and appreciate the things around me. a lot of people take it for granted.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Monday, 4 March 2019 19:33 (five years ago) link

no. never. i get nostalgic for other places i've lived, though, and i miss arby's and weed.

i think part of it is growing up in an air force family, so i lived in europe as a kid, then never stayed in any place for longer than five years. no hometown to go back to, no memory of the place where i was born.
also, this sounds like a horrible, cold thing to say and maybe speaks to my own deep-seated issues but, especially having my own family at this point, bringing my own child into the world, i would be not feel it a great loss to never speak to or see either of my parents again, my last major connection to the country, and even if i did move back, they've established their own new families with people i don't really know or care about in distant corners of the dominion, so it's not like i'd buy a house down the street.

just on getting out of the country in general, a big part of it is simply financial at this point. we can get by with one stable income and one freelancer's income in tokyo but definitely couldn't in vancouver (thanks in part to the japanese system of social housing).

XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Monday, 4 March 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link

I've traveled a lot and feel like I could live almost anywhere. I am not overly/at all? sentimental about things. Where I grew up in Virginia was nice but super boring. I haven't seen my parents or brothers since the 2016 election and am completely unbothered that I never have to go back there to visit them again.

Yerac, Monday, 4 March 2019 19:52 (five years ago) link

i feel like i could live anywhere also, really. I've kind of gotten myself stuck in vancouver. oh well, not the worst place in the world to be stuck

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 March 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link

i was born in another country, of which i have no memories (moved to usa when < 1 year old) yet which i can never forget

fucking weird innit

the late great, Monday, 4 March 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link

i live in my native country or the country of my birth or whatever but would like to live somewhere else

I am working quite hard on an escape plan. A company in another country actually flew me in for a job interview in December. I didn't get it, but I am still working with the recruiter who set it up, and applying for other jobs in the same country.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 4 March 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link

working remotely is something i have considered and would consider, actually.

but, for me, that’s different from actually wanting to live in another country, because i would only do it temporarily.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Monday, 4 March 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link

I've kind of gotten myself stuck in vancouver. oh well, not the worst place in the world to be stuck

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, March 4, 2019 9:56 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the human cost of ilx technocrats' username policy :(

difficult listening hour, Monday, 4 March 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link

Born in Mississippi to Cuban parents who emigrated between 10 and 12 y/o when Fidel got serious.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link

Can't see myself relocating to another country. I would maybe be allowed into Europe if I'd ever actually mail in the stuff to get the German citizenship I'm ostensibly due from my paternal grandfather being made stateless by the Third Reich, but Jews moving back to Europe seems like a losing proposition. Not huge on the idea of living in Israel for assorted reasons. Would be able to get by in any país hispanohablante and having never been to Mexico City I find the idea of going there interesting. But in truth I don't know why I would want to move anywhere where I haven't already lived or at least know what circle of acquaintances I would plug into. I'm an adult I don't need the isolation that comes from relocating.

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't swear to god I'll never leave but I have no reason to think that I might

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link

like what do other countries have except for people who hate Americans to go along with the people who hate Jews

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link

"Jews moving back to Europe seems like a losing proposition"

curious to know about this outlook

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:30 (five years ago) link

I mean they’re not exactly rolling out the red carpet saying they shan’t do it again

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:37 (five years ago) link

xp. antisemitism is worse in europe than the united states. and increasing

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:38 (five years ago) link

ive no idea about it nor how youd measure or compare but fair enough

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link

Born in the States, always lived in the States, would be glad to leave the States. (but no opportunity)

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:54 (five years ago) link

and like even apart from antisemitism, as much as I like the idea of moving to the Berlin my grandparents had to leave on some level, I don't speak German and what would I even do there?

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:55 (five years ago) link

you know what i always say, 'wherever you go, there you are'

ive no idea about it nor how youd measure or compare but fair enough

― god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Monday, March 4, 2019 2:50 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's plenty of data out there regarding these things

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:57 (five years ago) link

Option 3

But my standards are too high for anywhere.

nashwan, Monday, 4 March 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link

I am situated among the least interesting of the choices presented. I have never lived outside the USA and for a large variety of reasons I cannot see myself living elsewhere. Much as I acknowledge the problems and shortcomings of my country, I am so thoroughly embedded in it that leaving would be incredibly impractical, not to mention that in any other country on earth I would remain an American by temperament, and therefore somewhat of an alien being in my new country, until my death. Even in Canada.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 March 2019 23:15 (five years ago) link

silby, you would do the ~same things you do in the US except in Berlin. Nothing is permanent; you could always come back to the US. I like living in different places. I like being home but I like to see different things until they become familiar.

Yerac, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:00 (five years ago) link

I said a while ago I’d never leave but I don’t know anymore. I couldn’t do it while my parents are still alive and they’re not even at retirement age yet.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:05 (five years ago) link

there's plenty of data out there regarding these things

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:57 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sure didnt i ask the poster directly to find out their thinking didn't i. theres data on everything proving everything.

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:07 (five years ago) link

anyway anyone who can afford it should come to dublin for a while anyway. nb i havent read the data

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:08 (five years ago) link

I like Dublin. It's gotten really pricey though, right? (I haven't been in a while).

Yerac, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:09 (five years ago) link

Would i be allowes to immigrate there? I am fourth gen but very nice.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:09 (five years ago) link

born in america, live in america, consider "countries" to be a quaint 19th century solution to tribalism that is past its sell-by date

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:11 (five years ago) link

its excruciating costwise but the craic is mighty

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:14 (five years ago) link

You can find craic anywhere though tbh.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:15 (five years ago) link

tisnt the same shtop

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link

... outside of parts of Southern England that is.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:17 (five years ago) link

I suppose Bloom himself was a Jew come to think of it

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:28 (five years ago) link

not much craic in vancouver tbh, plenty of crack mind

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:30 (five years ago) link

Born in Malaysia, lived four years in Singapore, six years in Australia, and now back in Malaysia.

It feels like home now - there isn't anywhere else with better food imo (except maybe Japan). But wouldn't say no to leaving again if the right opportunity came up.

Roz, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 00:34 (five years ago) link

I've had conversations with adult americans that went to college that didn't know pinochet, patagonia, pablo neruda or san padro de atacama. I always figured these were the main range of things chile is known for that I could somehow jostle their recognition of the country.

Yerac, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link

in britain after pinochet footballers would be the thing people would think of. alexis sanchez, arturo vidal, and then maybe zamorano and salas

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link

with wine they think malbec first as their affordable wine from chile confusing it with argentina. xpost

Yerac, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

seb rosenthal

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

More people have heard of Patagonia the brand in my experience.

pomenitul, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:33 (five years ago) link

I have found that "chilean miners" is the sweet spot for the average american's knowledge of chile.

Yerac, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link

Try bringing up Bolivia! At best they'll talk about cocaine.

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link

seb rosenthal

― PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Monday, March 11, 2019 9:31 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha yes, this was definitely a reference that hit hard in 90s lanarkshire

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link

When we were gone for a year we rented out our apartment to a chilean footballer. That was not a good idea.

Yerac, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link

When people find out I'm Romanian it's either 'I have a Romanian friend, do you know him/her?' or something about Ceaușescu/Dracula/Gypsies. The only one I really mind is 'so you speak Russian, right?'

pomenitul, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

I only knew Patagonia from Madeleine L'Engle's "A Swiftly Tilting Planet" until I went there for a few weeks. Now it makes me think of stunningly beautiful landscapes and tasty beer.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:42 (five years ago) link

I like to talk to Romanians about the Black Sea coast, to which I have never been but which I believe to a magical fantasy land.

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

The Black Sea is nice but if you visit Romania (assuming you haven't already) you should prioritize Transylvania, Bucharest and parts of Moldova.

pomenitul, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link

I know that Romania has nice pinot noir, sweet wines and they produce the most wine in central europe.

Yerac, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link

Keep saying Romania is in 'central Europe' and you'll ingratiate yourself to us in no time. ;)

I'm actually not too keen on our wines but that's because France has spoiled me.

pomenitul, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link

Ha, what do people normally say? I am terrible with geography so everything I know about places comes from either going there or from wine.

Yerac, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link

The first thing I think of when Romania comes up is the girl I heard about from some backpackers who had just been to Bucharest, she had been bitten by a stray dog and they got the news that she'd died of rabies while I was with them, it was big enough of a trauma for them that I feel like I knew her too (We were in a hostel called The Station Guesthouse in Budapest in I think 2003)

Sure this is not a fair reflection on Romania, sorry, but it put me off going.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link

Everything that lay behind the Iron Curtain is usually called 'Eastern Europe'. As far as Romania goes, that's fairly accurate (going from West to East, it's one of the last stops before Russia) but it drives certain Czechs and Poles up the wall.

xp

pomenitul, Monday, 11 March 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link

I have been to Bucharest but nowhere else...yet. My wife has traveled more extensively in Romania than I have.

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link

in britain generally everywhere that was in the warsaw pact is referred to as eastern europe, even say the czech republic which is only a bit more easterly than austria

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link

Stray dogs were a massive issue in the 90s and the early 00s. The situation has improved considerably in the interim, although there's still an ongoing tug-of-war between dogcatchers and animal rescue organizations.

2xp

pomenitul, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

Should you get the chance, Euler, I strongly recommend checking out Brașov, Sibiu and their environs. As well as Moldova's painted monasteries, which tend to be quite gorgeous and quite different from their Western equivalents.

pomenitul, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:02 (five years ago) link

Romania is pretty far East, whereas the Czech Republic sits neatly on top of (most of) Austria, tbf.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Monday, 11 March 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link

I was just looking at train tickets to Mamaia, would be a fun few days of getting there, followed by whatever shenanigans ensue.

I love Romanian food (my ancestry includes Romania though it is hard to document very precisely because of the chaos of the late 19th century when they made their way westward). I want sarmale now. do you know any good Romanian restos in Paris?

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 11 March 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

They always lump all the central and eastern european countries together for wine studies. But I just double checked and it typically says romania is central europe and this is really just based on geography and not anything else. Although it seems like british wine writers call it eastern europe, ha!

Yerac, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link

p much all of western europe would say romania is eastern europe iirc.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 11 March 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

Isn't the old Mitteleuropa, Czech Republic/Slovakia/Austria/Hungary? It was in football terms. Also it looks that way on a map. I've only ever been to Prague though, but it seemed pretty German to me.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Monday, 11 March 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link

do you know any good Romanian restos in Paris?

I wish I did! There's a tiny Romanian grocery store near the Orthodox Church in the 5ème, but it's not exactly great. I'll look into it during my next stay in Paris.

Mamaia is definitely a lot of fun. My parents were there last year for the first time in ages and weren't disappointed in the least, but I myself haven't revisited it in years. Last time I saw the Black Sea I was at Vama Veche, which has a somewhat more… chaotic reputation.

pomenitul, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link

in britain after pinochet footballers would be the thing people would think of. alexis sanchez, arturo vidal, and then maybe zamorano and salas

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 11 March 2019 16:30 (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

salas and zamorano first or ur a disgusting savage imo

~mine own~ bitcoin (darraghmac), Monday, 11 March 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link

George Robledo or gtfo.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Monday, 11 March 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link

I could envisage myself living somewhere like Brașov. The only reason I haven’t been back for ages is that I can’t face Luton Airport.

ShariVari, Monday, 11 March 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link

when i have to answer where i'm from, these days,

Ah, yeah, I get this. I used to say Canada/Alberta/whatever, but now I usually just say London (unless the question is from a native English speaker and what they're really asking is 'what country is your accent from') and don't really want to dwell on it. I think 'Londoner' is my main place-based identity these days.

When people find out I'm Romanian it's either 'I have a Romanian friend, do you know him/her?'

Ha, I actually like to explore the 'do you know him/her' thing, if they have links to the same cities as me. One time I did actually know them: I encountered a British woman who was interested to learn that I grew up in the same city as her Canadian best friend. The woman was around my age, so I asked her who the best friend was - just on the off-chance, right? Turns out her best friend was the older sister of my own childhood best friend. They'd travelled and worked together at ski resorts in the rockies and New Zealand.

salsa shark, Monday, 11 March 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link

London, Ontario?

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Monday, 11 March 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link

once told someone that i was half-chilean and after a beat they said "pinochet and that?"

I'm so accustomed to seeing Chilean produce for sale at the area supermarkets during the off-season that that's the absolute first thing that comes to my mind when thinking of that country. I figured Pinochet is just a part of the OLD Chile back in the bad old days of the "banana republics" and bears no relation to the current state as it stands. Also, since my family's originally from Mexico and THAT comes with its own series of depressing associations, I would rather think of the good that comes from all Latin American countries (even Venezuela's got its rebellious anti-Maduro citizenry as its bright spot).

Romania I always associate with what I read about it in my favorite author Robert D. Kaplan's Balkan Ghosts and Eastward to Tartary, and the fact that the people there speak a Romance language, something highly unusual for that region or indeed any region outside Latin America or the Iberian peninsula.

Hm. London was never my 'dream city', but it's where I ended up. When I moved to the UK in 2007 I thought I'd go for Bristol or Brighton, but London was where the job offer happened. Now I've been here 11 years, pretty much 1/3 of my life. The first five or so years were fine, but seven-year-itch was definitely a thing, and it made me deeply unhappy to be living in London. I thought constantly about going home for a couple years, which wasn't helped by being in a stressful job and going though the grief of the sudden death of a parent 7000 km away. Everything about being in London irritated me: the high cost of living ('I could afford to buy an entire house in Canada, grumble grumble'); the long travel times to see/do anything interesting ('At home everything's within a 30 minute journey, grumble grumble'); how hard it was/is to make friends ('All my friends are at home, having fun without me, grumble grumble').

I ended up getting a much better job, which drastically improved my relationship with the city (I do research on city stuff so I get to travel to all sorts of weird and wonderful place in London). And in the last few years my own neighbourhood has exploded with stuff so I have more to do within a 30 minute walk. It's good for now, but London is not a place I want to grow old, and Brexit is a bummer... but I don't know where else to go.

Oh, I'm well aware of how every place out there has its setbacks and that London would be a pricey city to live in, though one could also say the same about every similarly sized global metropolis and I spent a considerable amount of my life as a hardcore Anglophile who looked at London as The Ultimate Goal. Also, yes, being employed somewhere that gives one extreme dissatisfaction would put the damper on one's living ANYWHERE, regardless of loction, so I'm glad you were able to find a better place of employment. However, in spite of the total shambles that is Brexit and the current lack of leadership from any of the political parties in Britain, I would absolutely take living there any day of the week over living in Drumpf's goddamned America, especially since he and his minions are targeting my people. I'm lucky to live where I do in that we're the majority and have significant political power on a local level, but it's a terribly boring place to live. I mean, the most exciting thing that's happened recently is that we finally got a local Ikea in town last month! Big fucking whoop. Additionally, it really burns me up whenever I see people who live in these huge, exciting cities leaving online comments chastising others for moving to those same cities and saying that those transplants should just stay where they are and create a local "scene" where they live; inside my head I'm thinking, "Oh yes, let's all just magic up some cosmopolitan excitement out of fucking nowhere! Then we can get around to pulling flying unicorns and world peace out of thin air!" The city where I live already HAS people trying very hard to turn it into something better but, in spite of its massive population growth since 1990 (from about 850,000 to almost 2 million and growing), it's still the same, boring backwater it's always been. Living in a huge metropolis with endless cultural options would be a dream for me (especially if I can make new, POSITIVE memories instead of the awful ones I have locally) and if it happens to be in the country I've adored since I was four, all the better.

The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

I've lived 80% of my life outside of the place I was born, changing country every 4-5 years until I settled by accident here in Belgium, where I've now been living 15 years. The constant moving and the idea that I could I just reinvent myself in the next place gave me a paralysing tendency to over-romanticize places, imagined or half-remembered, instead of trying to ingrain myself wherever I was and actually build something. In recent years, I've found that starting a family has "cured" me of that since it's made it obvious that my life would essentially stay the same from now on, whatever the place. Worrying about school runs and weekend playdates leaves little space for longing for the elusive atmosphere of a foreign place.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

pomenitul, you'll be happy to know that a research paper topic that was just released today for an advanced wine thingey is the future of Romanian wine in export markets.

Yerac, Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

Hah, I'll drink to that. I'm not crazy about the stuff tbh, having been spoiled on French wine, but there is much, far too much I haven't tasted yet.

pomenitul, Thursday, 1 August 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

Hmm… I said the exact same thing upthread, more or less.

pomenitul, Thursday, 1 August 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

it's ok, I feel strongly about that sentiment too.

Yerac, Thursday, 1 August 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link


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