US Politics March 2019: “I can’t say I’m happy. I can’t say I’m thrilled”

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NEW: House judiciary chairman Jerry Nadler says "tomorrow we will be issuing document requests to over 60 different people and individuals from the White House, to the Dept. of Justice, Donald Trump Jr. ... to begin investigations" https://t.co/T5uriFOXYo #ThisWeek pic.twitter.com/OYnNw8ELjZ

— This Week (@ThisWeekABC) March 3, 2019

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a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 March 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link

has Ways & Means chair Neal been dragging his feet on Yam's taxes?

https://revolvingdoorproject.substack.com/p/revolving-door-project-reacts-to

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link

i uh, think he's got this?
http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/wamc/files/styles/medium/public/201804/114_rp_ma_1_neal_richard__1_.jpg

sorry hueg but eh

Hunt3r, Sunday, 3 March 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link

Senate has enough GOP defections to pass national emergency disapproval.

Obv gonna get vetoed and there's no veto-proof majority but at least we're making him own it

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 March 2019 22:21 (five years ago) link

Senate has enough GOP defections to pass national emergency disapproval.

No they don't. I read the Vox article that listed the "defectors" and the list included Collins, with Rubio and Romney supposedly "on the fence." I will bet actual money that none of them are going to vote no when it finally comes down. Paul will, Murkowski might, and that'll be it, and one of those will be canceled out by Manchin voting yes.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 3 March 2019 23:29 (five years ago) link

huh? this bill is the exact type of thing Murkowski and Collins love to defect on, much like the ACA repeal bills, to appear more "middle of the road". and Manchin likes to vote the same way they do (albeit he doesn't always).

not sure why you're dismissing this so confidently.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 00:05 (five years ago) link

I mean I know some of the posters ITT get boners loudly posting about how the worst possible outcome is obviously going to happen, but Murkowski/Collins have voted to buck Trump multiple times. they're opportunist bullshitters, but they're usually the two most likely to break ranks, like with his wall bill, or the ACA. especially when they know the bill is going to be vetoed by the President anyway, which absolves them of any 'responsibility'.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 00:13 (five years ago) link

Murkowski's been at least consistent on that front.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 March 2019 00:18 (five years ago) link

Murkowski I can see voting no, and Paul too. But I expect less than nothing from Collins, never mind Romney or Rubio.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 4 March 2019 00:24 (five years ago) link

My senator Tillis actually bothered to write a whole op-Ed criticizing the declaration iirc. I mean I guess he could always still vote no but that would make the op-Ed a pretty weird flex.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 4 March 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link

Paul has said he will vote no.

earlnash, Monday, 4 March 2019 01:15 (five years ago) link

wait, what? or do you mean "yes"?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 01:24 (five years ago) link

w the Dems

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 4 March 2019 01:26 (five years ago) link

oh ok.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 01:27 (five years ago) link

there are butthurt conservatives posting how he "joined the swamp" on twitter now lol

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 01:27 (five years ago) link

Jane Mayer’s Fox News deep dive is a doozy. Who’s surprised that Trump got debate Qs in advance? Can the guy ever stop projecting???

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house

maura, Monday, 4 March 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link

Also enjoyed Remnick’s chat with AOC:

Ocasio-Cortez says that she has tried to keep her focus partly by avoiding watching Trump on television: “He relies and thrives on attention, and so the less attention he’s given, even if it’s just one set of eyeballs, the weaker he is.” She said that watching Trump in the House chamber at the State of the Union address made her feel “sick” and “underwhelmed.”

“He is such a small, mediocre person,” she told me. “I grew up with a real romanticism about America. I grew up in a first-generation household where your parents give up everything, and for me America was the greatest thing ever to exist. To be there on the floor of the House was beyond anything my parents would have ever dreamed of. But the person behind the podium was so unskilled. It was kind of sad.”

maura, Monday, 4 March 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link

Trump sez he gave FEMA the order to give Alabama "A plus treatment" after their tornadoes.

He makes disaster relief sound like fucking hotel concierge service ffs

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

misleading URL btw

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link

and it's all out in the fucking open. all this stuff does is confirm what he already said and what we already knew.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link

Other than a big burst of posting around Cohen's testimony, it feels like the US politics threads have calmed a fair amount since the government shutdown ended. The Dems capturing the House makes Trump less relevant, except as a crash dummy. The new Congressional investigations are only at the starting line. The Green New Deal is still too shapeless and far down the road to get much more from us than general approval of the concept. M4A might have legs, but until 2021 it remains an election issue with a legislative sidebar.

This is a nice chance to take a breather and stretch.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 March 2019 20:23 (five years ago) link

this OTT reaction from Dems only seems to prove her point. meanwhile you've got wings of the GOP actively calling her a terrorist. great job, Dems!

frogbs, Monday, 4 March 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link

like most things nowadays it just feels like bad faith all around. based solely on Omar's comments, does anyone really feel like it's necessary for Democrats to issue a congressional resolution to demonstrate they are against anti-Semitism? i don't think so, which suggests they are signalling something else, like...

questioning support for the U.S.-Israel relationship is unacceptable. (1/2)
— Rep. Juan Vargas (@RepJuanVargas) March 4, 2019

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 4 March 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link

fuck these nerds. guess for the next 2 years the money i usually give to PP & ACLU is going to Omar and primary opponents of every bad faith dickhead trying to run her out of town

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 4 March 2019 21:05 (five years ago) link

Rep. Juan Vargas, "As the duly-elected representative of hundreds of thousands of American citizens, I see it as my duty not to ask questions about America's foreign policy. Really. No questions at all. That's my position."

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 4 March 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link

An excellent Yglesias piece summarizing what we learned from the Mayer reporting: https://www.vox.com/2019/3/4/18249847/fox-news-effect-swing-elections

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 March 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link

Robert Mueller's office has notified Judge Amy Berman Jackson about an Instagram post from Roger Stone that could be in violation of Judge Jackson's strict gag order on Stone. https://t.co/UNp0Ux1xi1

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 4, 2019

mookieproof, Monday, 4 March 2019 22:30 (five years ago) link

speaking of predictable events....

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link

Was just watching last nights John Oliver and he was discussing the story about Jared’s security clearance from what, four days ago, that has essentially vanished from the news while everyone gets worked up about Rep. Omar again. Good job media, attaboy Congress.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link

conrgess is gonna congress, frankly this is a media problem.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link

After seeing that disgusting wapo op-Ed comparing Omar to Steve King I’m inclined to agree

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 02:48 (five years ago) link

my own congressman is dining out on supposed anti-semitism among democrats but he has declined nearly all invitations to actually speak with the jewish congregations in his district (there aren't many). he's a perfect example of "anti-semitism" being weaponized in a way that has nothing to do with harms done to (or perceived by) actual jews.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:04 (five years ago) link

This is crazy, for those fascinated and/or needing a chill way to wind down the evening:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/03/04/puzzling-through-the-house-requests/

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:16 (five years ago) link

some GOP rep said on NPR this morning "did Jared compromise security? nothing to see"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:21 (five years ago) link

he almost certainly did, though

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:24 (five years ago) link

well done Democrats

Representative Ilhan Omar is again under fire for her terrible comments concerning Israel. Jewish groups have just sent a petition to Speaker Pelosi asking her to remove Omar from Foreign Relations Committee. A dark day for Israel!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 5, 2019

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 04:36 (five years ago) link

A dark day for Israel!

I'm pretty sure no one in Israel had a worse day today because of this. It's not exactly like she is committing or even inciting mass murder of Israelis. She didn't even make someone stub their toe or get a paper cut.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 04:44 (five years ago) link

theres zero chance he knows A) what she said or B) why people are upset about it

(of course the fact that anyone's upset is idiotic and I suspect none of this is done in good faith and HOLY SHIT DEMS DO NOT DO THE GOP'S JOB FOR THEM)

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 04:49 (five years ago) link

NYT: “Senate prepares to block wall emergency, setting up rebuke to Trump. The vote would force Mr. Trump to issue the first veto of his presidency, signaling that his grip on Republicans in Congress ma be slipping.”


his grip on Republicans may be slipping, right!

Dan S, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:52 (five years ago) link

I'm sure some of them like their handies differently

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:53 (five years ago) link

"donald trump has issued an executive order sentencing everyone who voted for hilary clinton to death. the nra is urging its members to form posses and kill everyone who is responsible for their persecution. 12 republican senators are believed to be considering opposing trump's order, dealing a major blow to party unity in a time of great strife and uncertainty for donald trump."

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:56 (five years ago) link

lol

Dan S, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:57 (five years ago) link

Republicans are like the parent insisting their kid didn't shit on the floor in the dressing room of a JC Penneys

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:59 (five years ago) link

The only "grip" Trump has over Republicans in Congress is their fear of getting primaried out of office by his yahoo supporters. It certainly isn't his inspiring leadership, his shrewd maneuvering for their ultimate advantage, or his prowess at policy.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 06:00 (five years ago) link

I'm wondering how this 72 year old man was able to give a vehement, completely insane speech for 2 full hours on Saturday without taking a break or even a sip of water as far as I saw

Dan S, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 06:13 (five years ago) link


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