END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

why did i just click on that content-farm link?

Know what would have been great? If Bernie had replied to McCain "why in the world would I solicit the advice of the least popular Democratic nominee of all time?" That would have been great television.

forget McCain, imagine having to listen to Joy Behar and Whoopi

Everyone who was on his mailing list from the last election got contacted again so it makes sense.

― Yerac, Monday, 25 February 2019 18:47 (five days ago) Permalink

I got into a text argument with one of the "Our Revolution" folks because I never signed up to be on their list — they totally scraped Bernie's.

more like your revolution, am i right?

the people have spoken

https://i.redd.it/2jug28bp7sj21.jpg

Palin feels the Bern

EXPOSED: Bernie Plans To SLASH Military Funds To Fund Socialist Agenda https://t.co/KmP9alwVb7

— Sarah Palin (@SarahPalinUSA) March 3, 2019

Lol, the secret has been exposed.

how does she get to use the "governorpalin" domain name after quitting 2 years in

get ready for some Fox frothing over this, I guess

Holy shit. Destiny Harris––of #NoCopAcademy ––is speaking serious truth about struggle in Chicago, and that she believes Bernie will fight for her. I can't think of another candidate who'd have her open for them. #BernieInChicago pic.twitter.com/GcVkNVeBzk

— Zachary Siegel (@ZachWritesStuff) March 4, 2019

Clinton flack lies about Sanders' speech

https://theintercept.com/2019/03/03/msnbc-yet-again-broadcasts-blatant-lies-this-time-about-bernie-sanders-opening-speech-and-refuses-to-correct-them/

Last night w/Iranian friends: disc of their fathers coming home bloody in the 70s who now regret their role in the revolution. One committed suicide in shame. They likened revolutionary “idealism” to that of Bernie fans, saying they too (bloody or not) will regret their support.

— Virginia Heffernan (@page88) March 7, 2019

holy shit

centrist libs are the most dangerous extremists we have

she has always been a true artist of the form

Ross Douthat...otm?

With Sanders officially in the race, the reasons for bullishness have grown. Whether he is technically the front-runner or not depends on how you assess the impressive poll numbers of the undeclared Joe Biden: Are those a real signifier that the Democratic Party’s moderate wing is ready to have the former vice president as its champion, or just an artifact of name recognition that will collapse once Biden starts having to answer for his record?

But every normal metric makes Sanders a front-runner, and a stronger-looking candidate than all his declared rivals: His fund-raising is impressive, his crowds are big, and his early poll numbers give him both the expected 20-25 percent floor and room to grow. (In the weekend’s poll of Iowa, he would claim almost a third of Biden’s supporters if the ex-vice president decided not to run.) And he’s facing a field sufficiently large that the advantages of having a core of unshakable supporters are likely to be magnified.

Meanwhile his campaign so far is suggestive of the ways — again, like Reagan — that a long history of ideological extremism can actually be helpful to a presidential candidate. Precisely because Sanders is a known quantity, because nobody doubts his commitment to left-wing policies, there may be less pressure on his campaign to embrace every idea floated by reporters or touted by activists. (It’s probably a good sign, for instance, that he was just attacked from the left by Julián Castro for insufficient zeal on reparations.)

Nor does he need to adopt the strident tone of younger would-be revolutionaries or the politicians pandering to them to prove his socialist bona fides. As the conservative writer Ben Domenech noted recently, “the truth is that Sanders, despite his socialist label, seems to have a less harsh vision of politics than many others within the party.” Because his record is what it is, he won’t always have to be the most zealous candidate on stage — and like Reagan, he might even be able to promise certain kinds of moderation while keeping his base secure in his fundamentally revolutionary intentions.

https://t.co/x0YIWEUVJa

Conservatives say "Bernie will have won", pt 2

Be under no illusions. The 77-year-old Senator from Vermont — the man who tried to bring Sandinista radio to Burlington, and the runner-up to Madame Smart Power for the Democratic nomination in 2016 — may very well be our next president. Bernie can win.

Some have said that Sanders overperformed in the 2016 Democratic primary because Hillary Clinton is a uniquely bad candidate. (Well, Rich Lowry has said that.) Sanders would fade under closer scrutiny. If it seems like he’s a real contender to grab the nomination, people will research the weird things he said in the 1970s and 1980s. Or they’ll get more accustomed to his personal quirks and affect. And then he’ll fade. A gap between the austerity of his democratic-socialist politics and his relatively comfortable personal lifestyle will overwhelm him.

My response: Where have you been the last four years? Polished candidates are out. Candid candidates are in. Voters can and will forgive their politicians almost any verbal lapses, so long as they believe the candidate doesn’t hate them. Sanders has the manners not to talk about huge swathes of the American public with disdain or contempt. We know he won’t repeat Mitt Romney’s “takers” moment. But, crucially, while Sanders will denounce racism and divisiveness, he won’t imply that Trump’s supporters are economically useless “deplorables.” Bernie is not “intersectional” — at least, not in the alienating way. His declared enemies are the millionaires and billionaires who buy up public policy. He will not be tempted, as some other candidates may be, to mimic or adopt the young-lefty-media views on intersectionality that remain avant-garde and alienating to key swing constituencies.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/03/dont-laugh-bernie-can-win/

Conservatives always lie. If they say they think Bernie could have won, what they mean is they absolutely think he couldn't have (I think they're wrong about that, but still).

It comes from the same place as "As a republican, I would consider voting for Amy Klobuchar <or insert centrist Dem here>"-- like, of course they'd do no such thing! They're just pushing rhetoric that makes it more likely that they'll face a candidate they think will lose to trump in the general.

I'm not sure about that in either of these cases tbh

no impugning douthat's honesty itt please

idk obv douthat is a freak but I don't think it's that weird that he might genuinely think he can win

I didn't read the douthat thing, was responding to the National Review article

douthat's not a conservative, he's a garden variety idio

't' lmfao

the new episode of citations needed out today seems relevant to this discussion

It’s a trope that dates back more than a decade, but the rise of Sen. Bernie Sanders and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has seen a recent resurgence in the liberal’s “Inexplicable Republican Best Friend,” a specific genre of concern trolling where a long-time Republican operative, politician or pundit offers supposedly well-intentioned “advice” to Democrats about how they can win elections, which always relies on avoiding veering “too far left.”

These takes––frequently featured as earnest appeals in liberal and centrist outlets––are ostensibly framed as straight-talk advice that should be accepted as objectively in the Democrats’ best interest, and never presented as an ideological argument that would otherwise make sense coming from a right-winger. “Republican hates socialism” isn’t that newsworthy, whereas “GOP operative identifies Democrats’ best interests" somehow is. As with most ideological scams, it only travels in one direction: leftward. One seldom hears liberals or leftists give “advice” to Republicans about they ought to do to win.

But somehow the inverse isn’t true. Anti-choice, climate change denying, racist, rape apologist, warmongering, overpaid mercenary GOP “strategists” are treated like objective, neutral voices simply looking out for the best interests of the people and institutions they’ve spent their entire careers trying to destroy.

Trying to divine motivations seems like a waste of time. Maybe that it’s being written by a Republican should encourage you to read critically but honestly you should be reading everyone critically no matter how they identify.

electoral advice from a member of a rival party, particularly in the form of an open letter, is to be disregarded, not read critically or at all

if a republican has genuine advice for democratic presidential candidates, they could write them directly. publishing it in the open is done with the intention of shifting the discourse toward their end

Fuck off, Beto

otoh I think Beto running will help Bernie

the Bideto vote will split

Just kinda wondering where putting a Jewish mans face inside a bank vault surrounded by piles of money falls into our current debate? pic.twitter.com/lUMaHwsVfF

— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) March 6, 2019

socialism is being poor and the poorer you are the more socialister it is

Big ol' piece on the inner workings of the campaign and stuff

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/bernie-sanders-2020-presidential-race.html

Is it normal for the times to sound out a person’s regional accent pic.twitter.com/W5pGWaFDQc

— Nando (@nandorvila) April 11, 2019

about damn time

Bernie switched back into 80s public access mode and hosted a panel on poverty in Greenville, SC, than included local organizers, Danny Glover, and Cornel West

https://YouTube.com/watch?v=_keGO9K_-nY

Bernie Sanders talks felon voting at Ft. Worth, TX rally today: "I was roundly criticized for this, but you know what, once you begin taking away somebody’s right to vote, you are moving down a slippery slope. You committed a crime, you can’t vote. You’re poor, you can’t vote." pic.twitter.com/pAHMmSqUwO

— David Wright (@DavidWright_CNN) April 25, 2019

a reminder that (to different degrees) all pols suck

Sen. Bernie Sanders says he "does not fault Trump" in his handling of North Korea in an exclusive interview with @ABC's @jonkarl: "It is very, very difficult, but clearly they are a threat to the planet."

See more Sunday on @ThisWeekABC. https://t.co/hlSZblfiyd pic.twitter.com/qNt5qf7PRE

— ABC News (@ABC) May 4, 2019

When’s the next round of town halls, anyway? We got like a month plus till the first debate

biden running has me going super-saiyan bernie bro

Yeah, Biden is absolutely fucking everything up

And we're def past the the Howard Dean days where a "gaffe" has any chance of derailing your campaign. We're gonna be stuck with dude even if he's videotaped groping Lady Liberty in New York Harbor

might skim some trump voters with that though

taibbi:

In the Trump era, “crossing the aisle” is about as popular among blue-state intelligentsia as scabies or snuff films. No effort to court the Fox audience is considered kosher. In a year when Democrats officially cut off Fox as a debate broadcaster, Sanders’ decision to do the town hall was a political act in itself. Did it accomplish anything?

“Fox was kind enough to let us write an editorial after that,” Sanders says. “I think there are a few people who watched who are working two to three jobs, who have nothing set aside for retirement, and they’re wondering: Who cares about us? Do Democrats care about us? Do Republicans care about us?”

He pauses. “I think there are some working-class people out there who will say, ‘I don’t agree with Sanders about everything, but he’s right.’ ”

Whether or not you believe his pitch will work depends a lot on whether you think Trump’s voters were misled, or whether they read him loud and clear and voted out of racial and cultural resentment rather than the economic issues Sanders holds dear.

i don't think i agree with this. a lot of clinton's problems in these regions had to do with turnout. he didn't overperform in the midwest as much as clinton underperformed iirc.

I think that means you agree with it

Like whether they were misled or read him loud and clear, they still were inspired enough to pokemon go to the polls

hello bernie buds, cant wait for yall to come on over to the warren wagon, god bless

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/18/us/bernie-sanders.html

god this reporter is a fucking idiot

and of course liberal twitter is full of morons complaining that he was "rude" to her, because apparently at least some of the resistance is more offended by the very existence of bernie sanders than by fucking death squads

The US committed state terrorism against Central America in the 1980s. Worse than Saddam. Worse than Milosevic. Bernie Sanders was on the right side. The NYTimes -- surprise! -- was on the terrorist side. I remember it well. https://t.co/qtWKxSkO0n

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) May 18, 2019

Bravo to Sanders for snapping.