NRA’s presences is remarkably low-key to absent at #CPAC2019 No Wayne LaPierre — a CPAC mainstay — or Dana Loesch, fixture in recent years. Ollie North spoke earlier, but he has different public image, not so associated w/NRA. Panel right now on guns, no one from NRA.— Michelangelo Signorile (@MSignorile) February 28, 2019
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 February 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
Laying low, waiting for all the Russian collusion stuff to blow over and be forgotten.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link
An active-shooter training exercise at an Indiana elementary school in January left teachers with welts, bruises and abrasions after they were shot with plastic pellets by the local sheriff’s office conducting the session.The incident, acknowledged in testimony this week before state lawmakers, was confirmed by two elementary school teachers in Monticello, who described an exercise in which teachers were asked by local law enforcement to kneel down against a classroom wall before being sprayed across their backs with plastic pellets without warning.“They told us, ‘This is what happens if you just cower and do nothing,’” said one of the two teachers, both of whom asked IndyStar not to be identified out of concern for their jobs. “They shot all of us across our backs. I was hit four times.“It hurt so bad.”
The incident, acknowledged in testimony this week before state lawmakers, was confirmed by two elementary school teachers in Monticello, who described an exercise in which teachers were asked by local law enforcement to kneel down against a classroom wall before being sprayed across their backs with plastic pellets without warning.
“They told us, ‘This is what happens if you just cower and do nothing,’” said one of the two teachers, both of whom asked IndyStar not to be identified out of concern for their jobs. “They shot all of us across our backs. I was hit four times.
“It hurt so bad.”
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/21/active-shooter-training-for-schools-teachers-shot-with-plastic-pellets/3231103002/
― but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 March 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link
Ban pellet guns.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 March 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link
Ban small town Hoosier law enforcement imo and ime.
― Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 March 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link
A sad tribute to Jeremy Richman, who lost his daughter at Sandy Hook:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/31/sandy-hook-shooting-suicide-parents-fake-news-conspiracy
― pomenitul, Sunday, 31 March 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link
the statement from his wife... I can't imagine
“My champion and the love of my life is the person who had every tool in the toolbox at his disposal … he succumbed to the grief that he could not escape. To parent our children without my champion shatters my heart and I will love my best friend forever.”
― ogmor, Sunday, 31 March 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
what hurt was reading how much he and his wife suffered every time there was another shooting, and how many people must be in their same shoes. there just isn't any escape with the frequency that shootings occur.
― pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 31 March 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
some pig fucking troll was walking around the national mall this weekend wearing a t-shirt that said "MY 30-ROUND MAG IDENTIFIES AS A 10 - I'M OKAY RIGHT?" and I have to live the rest of my days with the knowledge that I didn't spot him soon enough to grab his belt and chuck him into the tidal basin
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
you all know without my saying that he was bald, white, late 40s, and the shirt was black with white IMPACT lettering
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link
wtf "bald" is this a murderous characteristic
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
yes obviously it goes right along with everything else I said everyone becomes a twat when they turn 46, lose their melanin and start wearing black t-shirts
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
there but for the grace of god
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/supreme-court-allows-families-of-sandy-hook-shooting-victims-to-sue-gunmaker-remington/2019/11/12/7f6a3afe-055a-11ea-b17d-8b867891d39d_story.html
The Supreme Court on Tuesday turned down an appeal from the gun industry intended to block a lawsuit from families of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victims.The decision lets stand a groundbreaking ruling from the Connecticut Supreme Court that said the manufacturer of the Bushmaster AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle can be sued and potentially held liable for the 2012 massacre in Newtown, Conn.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
that's very good news. now if we can just luck out so the next few mass shootings are clustered around the same day or two, and at least one of them can involve an especially tragic group of victims, we might start to get some movement on this in congress as well
― at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link
let's see, maybe an orphanage and a convent would do the trick, but only if the shooters were aiming for the world record.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
this is slightly orwellian but slightly.... awesome?https://www.shotspotter.com/technology/Apparently this came into play at that party in Chicago.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 December 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
What an innovative way to deal with the problem of too many guns! Granted, it does nothing to reduce the number of guns or shootings or victims or deaths or wounding, but it sure does solve that other major problem of figuring out where all that gunfire is coming from!
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 22 December 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
Yes too little too late probably.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 December 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/feds-publish-info-on-arizona-lead-contamination-from-shooting-11438893
what a shitty fucking hobby. (there's also the noise pollution. I was out on an otherwise lovely hike by Prescott Saturday, marred only by the near constant sound of gunfire from an unofficial range on public land 5 miles away.)
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link
hmm, interesting. the trump admin should issue a revised rule to exempt Table Mesa from lead contamination regulations. that would make the problem go away
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:46 (four years ago) link
I’m sure this can only turn out well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/24/texas-unlicensed-handgun-carry-bill
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 10:02 (two years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/05/california-assault-weapons-ban-overturned/
California’s longtime assault weapon ban overturned
U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez of the Southern District of California said the ban was unconstitutional and warmly praised such firearms: “Like the Swiss Army Knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment.”
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 June 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link
get me out of heeeeeeeeeere
the swiss army knife is a perfect combo of "home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment"?? what?! even before the AR-15 is mentioned, what? i have a swiss army knife - it is a perfect combo of NEITHER of those things.
god this country is creepy
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 June 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link
perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment
They say the best defense is a good offense. Therefore, the ability to kill or maim a dozen or so people in less than a minute is a very good defense. But of course no one would ever do something like that unless they were defending the homela... uh, nvm.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 5 June 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link
the easy parallel between the home (property, the family) and the homeland (nation) is telling somehow. more or less explicitly saying who it’s for & who it’s against. the guns are literally the border(s) in this scenario
― Left, Saturday, 5 June 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link
homeland defense, fucking insurrections dogwhistle
― brimstead, Sunday, 6 June 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link
i do however think it would be great for this country if everyone concerned about "homeland defense" were to trade in their AR-15s for that equally perfect killing machine, the Swiss Army Knife.
― Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 6 June 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link
The judge is clearly out of touch, presumably he meant “tactical leatherman” rather than Swiss Army Knife. You ever tried to get that little blade out in a moment of stress?
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 6 June 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
no, but that's because i drink tactical coffee to boost my perception so that i eliminate the stress threat before it approaches
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 6 June 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link
Woke up this morning to the news that there was a car chase and shootout more or less right on my street at midnight last night. I totally slept through it, but when I mentioned it to my daughter her eyes lit up and she said "I saw it!" I was all, wait, what? And she said she was woken up around midnight by what she thought were fireworks - pop! pop pop! - and opened her blinds a little to see what was going on just in time to witness two cars zooming down the street, shooting at each other, muzzles flashing.
Most frightening of all, she seems totally unfazed. Though it is, of course, very disturbing, and the sort of random violence that often leads to random shootings. This is all related to and spillover from what appears to be a wave of car chases and shootouts on the highway, which is itself pretty insane.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 November 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link
Don’t you live in a relatively peaceful suburb too?
― A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 7 November 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link
Yeah, but it's barely a suburb. It's literally right next to the west side of Chicago, so there is always nearby stuff. But this is happening all over the city, as I understand it. It's not a war zone or anything, but it's become pretty regular.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 November 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link
I never used to hear gunfire when I was hiking. Now I hear shooters popping off on just about every other hike.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 7 November 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
I hope this happens more often:
Georgia gun laws are to blame for the cancellation of the 2022 Music Midtown festival in Atlanta, Georgia.On Monday, Live Nation announced that the festival was canceled, stating only, “due to circumstances beyond our control, Music Midtown will no longer be taking place this year. We are looking forward to reuniting in September and hope we can get back to enjoying the festival together again soon.” The festival was set to take place in September with Jack White, Future, My Chemical Romance, and Fall Out Boy headlining. An estimated 50,000 people attended Music Midtown in 2021.Though Live Nation did not officially give a reason for the cancellation, sources who worked with the festival confirmed to Rolling Stone that Georgia’s gun laws were to blame. Since 2011, Music Midtown has taken place at Piedmont Park in Atlanta, and parks are among the various public spaces in Georgia where guns are allowed to be carried. The festival, as a temporary user of the park, does not have the standing to supersede that law and enforce its own ban. (The festival’s website stated that “Weapons or explosives of any kind” are prohibited.)
On Monday, Live Nation announced that the festival was canceled, stating only, “due to circumstances beyond our control, Music Midtown will no longer be taking place this year. We are looking forward to reuniting in September and hope we can get back to enjoying the festival together again soon.” The festival was set to take place in September with Jack White, Future, My Chemical Romance, and Fall Out Boy headlining. An estimated 50,000 people attended Music Midtown in 2021.
Though Live Nation did not officially give a reason for the cancellation, sources who worked with the festival confirmed to Rolling Stone that Georgia’s gun laws were to blame. Since 2011, Music Midtown has taken place at Piedmont Park in Atlanta, and parks are among the various public spaces in Georgia where guns are allowed to be carried. The festival, as a temporary user of the park, does not have the standing to supersede that law and enforce its own ban. (The festival’s website stated that “Weapons or explosives of any kind” are prohibited.)
I think a particular challenge is that a lot of artists have a "no weapons allowed" policy in their contract, which ... makes sense!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 August 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link
Yeah... looks at that ridiculous stuff that happened to Kid Cudi recently. Add guns.
― Nhex, Monday, 1 August 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link
Or, y'know Selena, Dimebag, that YouTuber that got shot in Orlando...
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 August 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link
Not to mention some lunatic taking a gun to a crowded fest and just start shooting, period.
People were posting this in advance of Lollapalooza, can't vouch for its authenticity:
https://preview.redd.it/19nnbzlj3ie91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a368b925ad77072a16ca9371cf3001747139ae04
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 August 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link
Do we need a new thread specifically for people shot for knocking at the wrong door or pulling into a random driveway?
This damn country
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 01:42 (eleven months ago) link
So many people are worked up and armed to the teeth over potential home invasion scenarios. Is there any reason to believe this happens frequently enough to worry whatsoever?
Not to mention that having a gun is not going to make a situation like that any better.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 02:43 (eleven months ago) link
home invasions typically don't happen with the perpetrator knocking first
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 04:16 (eleven months ago) link
“Even though he is doing well physically, he has a long road ahead mentally and emotionally,” she wrote in a GoFundMe appeal to raise money for medical bills and other expenses. By Monday afternoon the appeal had reached nearly $2m.
Increasingly my thoughts are to rush and donate to the victims and survivors and their families (tho this will only create new problems for some - and maybe the shooter gets rich out of it in some cases too). 2 million already tho, wow.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 11:04 (eleven months ago) link
one would think the family is going to have a solid case in court to have those bills paid by the shooter…?
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 April 2023 11:43 (eleven months ago) link
That fucking old white dude was allowed to go home without charges.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 13:59 (eleven months ago) link
Authorities issued an arrest warrant for Andrew D. Lester, who was charged with felony assault and armed criminal action, one of which carries up to a life sentence if convicted.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/17/ralph-yarl-shooting-kansas-city/
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 14:04 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah I know he was charged afterward. The prosecutor at least admitted the suspect's motives were racial.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 14:04 (eleven months ago) link
"Stand Your Ground" laws are so so dangerous, they really do encourage people to just fucking shoot anyone who looks at them wrong. (And yes of course we all know who is likely to be given deference under these laws and who isn't.)
I had a really frustrating few minutes last night, our local county commission was debating a resolution calling for essentially a red flag law in Tennessee — which our useless governor tepidly endorsed last week but has not actually lifted a finger to make happen. I was there as a reporter but I got viscerally angry at some of the idiot misinformation from some of our commissioners. One tried to argue that "Well actually" guns aren't the leading cause of death for Americans under 18. Another trotted out the "states with tougher gun laws have more violence" line, which is provably, demonstrably, empirically untrue. I wrote an item today calling both of them out, for whatever good that does, but it's just offensive to me for elected officials to be so blithely unaware of the realities of the issue. So irresponsible. If you want to argue for more access to guns, you need to at least be honest that that almost inevitably means more gun deaths.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 14:20 (eleven months ago) link
I think they probably are aware of these things, but are willfully misleading people because this is the outcome they wanted. The goal is to keep people living in fear, shut down public institutions, and to rule over everyone by outgunning them.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 14:31 (eleven months ago) link
I mean ffs he shot the child when he was lying injured on the GROUND. there is no ground-standing there.
just the belief that one can do this under cover of law is enough to inspire such acts, even if the law doesn't eventually protect them.
we see how it played out in FL, it will continue to play out this way in all SYG states.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 14:34 (eleven months ago) link