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yeah two feet would be nuts. maybe a couple of inches - I think the issue is that it's not really physically possible to identify and hit a 105 mph fastball, right?

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 20:35 (five years ago) link

fwiw, i watched jordan hicks throw quite a few 103, 104, 105 mph pitches last year, with very few strikeouts. even at 60'6", hitters seemed able to at least make contact.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 21:36 (five years ago) link

New Atlantic League rules in some detail: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26190498/robot-umps-shift-ban-coming-atlantic-league

• Extending the distance between the pitching rubber from 60 feet, 6 inches to 62 feet, 6 inches in the second half of the season

^Again this seems so completely OTT! I think I could bunt my way close to with the Mendoza line at that distance

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 9 March 2019 15:00 (five years ago) link

"we're experimenting with raising the height of the rim to 12 feet"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 9 March 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link

on the one hand moving the mound midseason seems like a jarring change for players
on the other hand it would provide much better data for people evaluating how moving the mound would affect the game, because you'd have two samples with roughly the same players in similar gameshape, rather than two separate sesaons
on the other hand it seems kinda rude to MLB teams with atlantic league teams, because they have to deal with both their pitchers/hitters making changes to their technique/timing

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 March 2019 20:52 (five years ago) link

no MLB teams have atlantic league teams, it's an independent league

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 9 March 2019 20:55 (five years ago) link

nice! that leaves me with two hands again

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 March 2019 20:56 (five years ago) link

whoa, i didn't realize there were all these other new rules in the atlantic league, too (i should have read hadrian's link):

The slate of rule changes to be implemented in the Atlantic League are as follows:

Home plate umpire assisted in calling balls and strikes by a TrackMan radar tracking system.
No mound visits permitted by players or coaches other than for pitching changes or medical issues.
Pitchers must face a minimum of three batters, or reach the end of an inning before they exit the game, unless the pitcher becomes injured.
Increase the size of 1st, 2nd and 3rd base from 15 inches square to 18 inches square.
Require two infielders to be on each side of second base when a pitch is released (if not, the ball is dead and the umpire shall call a ball).
Time between innings and pitching changes reduced from 2:05 to 1:45.
Distance from pitching rubber to home plate extended 24 inches, in the second half of the season only; with no change to mound height or shape.

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:33 (five years ago) link

Time between innings and pitching changes reduced from 2:05 to 1:45.

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 10 March 2019 23:25 (five years ago) link

^ this would be great but seems highly unlikely

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 10 March 2019 23:25 (five years ago) link

Wouldn't moving the mound back shorten leads and discourage base stealing? Pick-off attempts will come at a shallower angle, seems like that would cut down on runners going first-to-third, taking an extra base, etc.

I just can't believe they are even considering monkeying with the geometry of the game like this! I mean just lower the mound again if you want more contact/action.

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 10 March 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link

Lots of @mlb rule changes for 2019 and 2020: pic.twitter.com/Bn89KReec0

— Bryan Hoch (@BryanHoch) March 14, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:13 (five years ago) link

ok pitching to a minimum of three hitters or until the end of a half inning makes this more palatable

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link

Only five mound visits now instead of six--they're getting serious about speeding things up.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link

"Position players will be prohibited from pitching in games that don’t go into extra innings, unless a team is ahead or behind by at least eight runs." - i mean, fine, but i don't really get why this has to be a rule

na (NA), Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link

I think it has something to do w/ preventing teams from manipulating the new pitcher/position player designations?

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:30 (five years ago) link

Elimination of 40 player roster, too!

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

Interesting changes! I'm really excited to see how the relief pitcher / opener rules pan out (in 2020).

No more waiver trades too! The trade deadline just got even more exciting.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 14 March 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link

The fact that the 40-man Sept. roster expansion doesn't reduce to 28 until 2020 increases Tim Tebow's chances of being a big leaguer.

— JJ Cooper (@jjcoop36) March 14, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link

I call this "overmanaging"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 March 2019 21:54 (five years ago) link

playing Seymour Skinner re position players pitching particularly

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 March 2019 22:21 (five years ago) link

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mlb-announces-major-rule-changes-for-2019-and-2020/

A commenter asks:

"Not that this will be [a frequent] occurrence but I’m still waiting to see how it will be handled if a team makes two mound visits before a pitcher faces three batters. We would have one rule requiring the pitcher be removed from the game and another stating that he is not allowed to be removed. Is baseball just broken at that point?"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 March 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link

Oof.

What about a pitcher feigning injury? We know it doesn't count as a mound visit. But will it also allow managers to skirt 3-hitter rule? Will said pitcher be obliged to do a DL stint? So much unnecessary dumbness.

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 March 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link

dl il stint

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 March 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link

supposedly the three-batter rule will be implemented in the (affiliated) minors this season. i don't think it will come up too much, though -- there aren't really minor league LOOGYs or convoluted platoon matches because the games don't mean anything

mookieproof, Friday, 15 March 2019 22:57 (five years ago) link

RIP pitch clock?

Van Horn Street, Friday, 15 March 2019 23:32 (five years ago) link

yeah :/

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 March 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link

seems like overkill

MLB is at Nationals’ camp today workshopping a new communication device for pitchers and catchers. It would allow catchers to type a pitch call (with location) into a watch that is connected to a watch the pitcher is wearing on the mound. An effort to eliminate sign-stealing.

— Jesse Dougherty (@dougherty_jesse) March 18, 2019

mookieproof, Monday, 18 March 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link

ugh

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 March 2019 15:01 (five years ago) link

real galaxy brain shit right there

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 March 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link

sign stealing is the best

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 March 2019 16:15 (five years ago) link

a good way to speed up the game is to have the catcher text the pitcher on his apple watch before every pitch

na (NA), Monday, 18 March 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link

yeah wtf

k3vin k., Monday, 18 March 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link

a century from now MLB will have "evolved" into 162 home run derbies + a midseason "old school" classic w base running, fielding, etc

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 March 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link

classy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2wy5U4WkAAuvkb.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 March 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link

the shark has pearly teeth

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 March 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link

apparently the mound will *not* be moved back in the atlantic league this season after all

good news for new long island duck jon niese

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link

that did seem the most harebrained

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 April 2019 17:49 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

thought this was a joke; apparently it is not

Atlantic League announce 4 new rules:
Pitcher required to step off the rubber in order to attempt a pickoff.
1 foul bunt is permitted with 2 strikes before strikeout is called.
Check swing rule made more batter friendly.
Batters may steal 1st on any pitch not caught by catcher.

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) July 11, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

why WHY

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

is the foul bunt rule meant to encourage more bunting? seems odd

also, embarrassed to not know for sure, but i thought a pitcher was already required to step off the rubber before a pickoff?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

If on the rubber, the motion has to be directed entirely toward a single base. i.e. home, first, etc

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

i think i was confused my the rules in my childhood league - i was always required to step off the rubber. i remember vividly because i got several balks called on me and had no idea wtf was going on

Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

i will never pay to see a "stealing first" league game

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

i guess some of this might somehow yield more ~action on the bases~

insofar as it does, it would also make the games longer

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

Yeah Karl I remember something similar. the MLB rules allow for that classic leftie pick-off move where they lift their right leg up but you don't know yet which way they're going.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 11 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27405556/yanks-boone-worth-exploring-mlb-mercy-rule

I might be in favour of a mercy rule of some sort, mainly because of the risk of someone getting hurt.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

i wouldn't necessarily be against a mercy rule, but have we actually seen position players get hurt pitching? (and if so, that's on the managers -- no one's forcing them not to use real pitchers)

mookieproof, Saturday, 17 August 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

I guess it's more the risk of any player getting hurt in a game where the score is lopsided and the guys just want to get the hell out of there (on both sides). Much like the Buster Posey and Chase Utley rules, one serious injury could be enough to get the rules changed, e.g. Mike Trout getting injured by an errant pitch in a 15-1 game. You can't sit everybody even once the score gets out of hand.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 18 August 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link

what are the best single game comebacks in mlb history?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 19 August 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link


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