We have this argument at my student newsroom all the thime. They're reluctant to use or plain forget "X did not return calls or emails despite several attempts." It's a quick signal to readers that your reporting isn't incomplete.
― Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 February 2019 22:04 (five years ago) link
When it's about actual serious stuff, of course I understand and agree re Katherine's link. But that Spike Lee thing, and many, many other p4k stories just don't warrant it even mentioning it imo. It comes across as a cop out: we've copied someone else's copy/tweets/hearsay but we did reach out ourselves too. About a story they clearly didn't break themselves.
"X did not return calls or emails despite several attempts."
This is obvious, and good, to use. Because the reaching out has been wrapped out by the writer. But 'we have reached out' as p4k uses so often is just too open.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 25 February 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link
Still in Oscar Fever mode as of 5pm, no mention of Hollis' death
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 25 February 2019 22:58 (five years ago) link
Oh, and lots about R Kelly, natch
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 25 February 2019 22:59 (five years ago) link
Need to make up for the time they had him headline their festival.
― MarkoP, Monday, 25 February 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link
The Hollis silence is odd given that they recently did a Tall Talk review. Must be waiting for Cardi to tweet rip so the story has a hook.
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 00:59 (five years ago) link
OK that's funny
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 01:01 (five years ago) link
I thought I was being weird for finding it weird they had no mention of Hollis yet but I see it's been mentioned a few times already! Worthy of one of their red breaking-news headlines, even.
― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 02:25 (five years ago) link
His death hasn't been confirmed yet, you weirdos
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 02:26 (five years ago) link
I can't remember what year we all decided pop music was okay again, but apparently it was after 2002― enochroot, Monday, February 25, 2019 11:43 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― enochroot, Monday, February 25, 2019 11:43 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
According to Pitchfork, at least, it was 2003:Was 2003 really the year that pop "broke"?
― jaymc, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 05:04 (five years ago) link
Hollis is lead article now his death has been confirmed
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 13:56 (five years ago) link
so someone returned their calls
― j., Tuesday, 26 February 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link
the tweet-aggregation style of obit -- which is not just Pitchfork, it's widespread now -- is so depressing to me
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:05 (five years ago) link
it makes sense for people who die unexpectedly, i think, as long as a real piece goes up later.
― we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link
I don't mind seeing celebs mourning celebs--if there's some substance to it. (Thinking of stuff like Michael McDonald's tribute to Walter Becker) but often it's just a bunch of people tweeting "damn"
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link
tweet aggregation is just the thing with every type of story now. if Trump nuked North Korea the story would be lefty twitter clapping back with
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― omar little, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link
I hate it so much
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/levels/why-the-hellcat-is-raps-signature-muscle-car/
The Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat lives up to those qualifications. It makes the muscle cars of the past seem modest by comparison. It’s a monster second in menace only to the Demon. The Hellcat, which starts at around $70,000 for a 2019 model, has a supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI engine that is rated at 707 horsepower and 650 lb⋅ft of torque. All that to say: it’s loud and it goes fast. As YoungBoy Never Broke Again qualified it, on “Solar Eclipse”: “Hellcat, not a Charger/Way faster than a ‘Rari.”
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link
i mean, the obvious question here is what does Chris Pratt like to listen to when he drives a car, and what was he listening to when he was 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, and soon to be fooooorty!!!!?
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link
5: This Little Light of Mine10: Jesus Loves Me, This I Know15: The Old Rugged Cross20: How Great Thou Art25: Precious Lord30: Peace in the Valley35: Satan is Real40: Amazing Grace
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:15 (five years ago) link
The name “Hellcat” carries a very singular symbolism: a Chimera rising from the infernos of the underworld. It’s a name bore by a fictional biker gang, vicious alien animals, and demon-like creatures in Dungeons & Dragons.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:18 (five years ago) link
bore vs borne is a real pet peeve of mine; were those vicious alien animals called Hellcats only in the past and have since been renamed? Your use of tense is making me tense.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 March 2019 00:33 (five years ago) link
my pet peeve is erasing the back 2/3rds of the chimera
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 1 March 2019 02:56 (five years ago) link
Criminy - I mean, at least with like October they’re just linking you out to another website that looks like one of their articles when you click on it. This is part of an actual column series on the site, and near as I can tell one that was designed to offer an increased focus on hip-hop content. Nowhere near a good look.
― You can't see it but I had an epiphany (Champiness), Friday, 1 March 2019 03:44 (five years ago) link
like half the articles talk about brands rappers mention
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link
this is why i'd been wrongly(?) assuming levels was a sponcon sideblog this whole time
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link
Meet duendita, a Spiritual Soul Singer Who Worships at the Altar of Self-Love
I would pointedly ignore a person who "worships at the altar of self-love"
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 12:46 (five years ago) link
we all gotta have hobbies pal
― Number None, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 13:39 (five years ago) link
This is an homage to "Twisted Metal," a game I played during the summer when I was 20 y.o., working at Ben & Jerry's, living on Steel Reserve & Lean Pockets, listening to Mobb Deep & "White Pony" almost exclusively. That was nearly 19 years ago. I don't feel old, I feel dead. pic.twitter.com/6jTCWAklJl— Ian Cohen (@en_cohen) March 8, 2019
every old millenial/gen x p4k writer constantly makes tweets like this and it’s like... that’s how time works
― flopson, Friday, 8 March 2019 21:59 (five years ago) link
holy crap. now i want to play twisted metal again.it's definitely been a while.
― John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Friday, 8 March 2019 22:03 (five years ago) link
In their defense, that "OMG, I'm old" feeling is still "new to you" when it happens.xp
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 March 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link
i've long accepted as a gen xer that we will go directly from obsessing about millennials taking over the world and what does it all mean??? to millennials grapple with middle age and what does it all mean??
i guess the early part of my life was baby boomers grapple with middle age what does it all mean??
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link
yeah I'm totally fine with gen x being the middle child of generations
― rob, Friday, 8 March 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link
old millennials feel like a middle child vs the break that came from young millennials ... we looked up to gen xers .. look how much time i wasted on this stupid site taking bad advice from them
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 8 March 2019 22:29 (five years ago) link
How Many Times Have You Played The Big & Rich CD That You Bought Because Of ILX?
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 March 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link
lolz
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 8 March 2019 22:33 (five years ago) link
a decade and a half early to the 'yee haw agenda'
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, March 6, 2019 7:46 AM (
The church of self-love is such a holy place to be
― Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 22:36 (five years ago) link
big & rich what a time it was
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link
lmao
― maura, Friday, 8 March 2019 23:14 (five years ago) link
it’s so self-indulgently navel gazey nostalgic to me i don’t like it. ‘listening to mobb deep and white pony’... so?? no one cares
― flopson, Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:50 (five years ago) link
when ur 19 and you precociously talk about what music you listen to >>>> when you’re 39 and nostalgically talk about what music you precociously talked about listening to at 19
― flopson, Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:51 (five years ago) link
Well here you go then: OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 9 March 2019 00:59 (five years ago) link
i feel you, flop, i complained about something like this on another thread recently...but also, i mean ... it's just his twitter. not like they published an essay about this.
also if this bugs you enuf, you should def unfollow that dude because there's more to come
― alpine static, Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:33 (five years ago) link
it’s so self-indulgently navel gazey nostalgic to me i don’t like it. ‘listening to mobb deep and white pony’... so?? no one cares― flopson, Friday, March 8, 2019 4:50 PM (thirty-three minutes ago)
― flopson, Friday, March 8, 2019 4:50 PM (thirty-three minutes ago)
Yeah, it's almost as if the writers equate themselves to be as, or daresay even more, interesting than the artists they write and pretend to care about.
It's almost as if they think their own writing is a better piece of art than its subject.
It's almost as if I needed a good reminder why I hated them to begin with.
Thank you, flops.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:37 (five years ago) link
it’s just fuckin twitter and you all need to chill out
― maura, Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:46 (five years ago) link
like some people have message boards where they wank. others have twitter
Little_Girl_Why_Not_Both.jpg
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:50 (five years ago) link
I'm pretty sure I only have two people blocked on Twitter and they're Joanna The Scammer and Ian Cohen
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 9 March 2019 01:52 (five years ago) link
speaking of which it's the ten year anniversary of Love vs Money in 2 days!
― flopson, Saturday, 9 March 2019 03:52 (five years ago) link