The Colombia/Ecuador/Venezuela Mess or Let's Place Bets on How Long Before the U.S. Backs a Colombian War With Venezuela

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wtf

pic.twitter.com/ZwxbWyV1HF

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) February 24, 2019

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Sunday, 24 February 2019 19:17 (five years ago) link

The game all along. Libya has been turned into a slave market and its migrants have died tried to find a better life in Europe but never mind all that Maduro is dumb and has bought this all on himself "VHS otm".

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 February 2019 22:49 (five years ago) link

I've seen that Rubio tweet about 20 times today and I'm not sure I can articulate how angry and sad it makes me

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Sunday, 24 February 2019 23:09 (five years ago) link

If you think that's wonderful, imagine living in a city with a huge concentration of well-intentioned Venezuelan exiles and their ill-intentioned Cuban supporters for whom that Rubio treat was *chef's kiss*

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 February 2019 23:24 (five years ago) link

I was a little skeptical at first, but after listening to Marco Rubio I am more convinced than ever that we need to militarily intervene in Miami

— Mark (@haircut_hippie) February 24, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 February 2019 23:26 (five years ago) link

I'd demand international arbitration, for example from Lakeland, Hialeah, Vero Beach, and Orlando.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 February 2019 23:34 (five years ago) link

Maybe together we can find a solution <-- someone who has never been to Miami.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 February 2019 23:38 (five years ago) link

🔥 30 years ago today in Venezuela: the mass rebellion against neoliberalism known as the Caracazo, which ended in the massacre of 300 to 3,000, most dumped in mass graves. Today, neoliberals claim the mantle of human rights as they try to do the same. Never forget! 🔥 pic.twitter.com/7szkyaGZv3

— George Ciccariello-Maher (@ciccmaher) February 27, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 February 2019 09:24 (five years ago) link

Unlike Rubio to get his facts wrong in tweets...

Lmao holy shit Marco Rubio is so dumb pic.twitter.com/HGR4TsM8GW

— liking online (@likingonline) March 10, 2019

There was a report in an Argentine newspaper a few days ago suggesting Pence had been assured by Guaido that half the army would switch sides as soon as the US recognised him as President and that Pence is now fuming that hasn’t happened, though I’m not sure how credible the source is.

ShariVari, Sunday, 10 March 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link

Lol, I was just coming here to post that tweet.

Frederik B, Sunday, 10 March 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

Thought this revive would be for

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/world/americas/venezuela-aid-fire-video.html

Simon H., Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link

It was.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

Mobile ilx makes me even more of a dumbass than normal

Simon H., Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link

Thread title makes it sounds like it some sort of fun ironic game to place bets on a potential war/civil war and I think it sucks.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:52 (five years ago) link

i agree
none of this is funny nor is it idly amusing

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:51 (five years ago) link

It sucks but many of you are basically backing a lot of pro-coup rhetoric. I wouldn't worry about a thread title that was written years before this year's events.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

Wanting free and impartial elections in Venezuela is not exactly backing pro-coup rhetoric, nor is it pointing out that Maduro's regime constitutes a coup itself.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link

The United States doesn’t need to invade the country. It just needs to target the bank accounts, Miami properties, and kleptocratic networks exploited by these corrupt Venezuelan officials

https://thinkprogress.org/venezuelas-kleptocratic-partner-in-crime-america/

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 March 2019 12:40 (five years ago) link

Currently: imperialist mouthpiece cosplaying as news station MSNBC has the wife of Venezuelan opposition leader Guaido labeled as "Venezuelan First Lady" - which is categorically, undeniably false - on live national TV. The actual Venezuelan First Lady is legendary Cilia Flores. pic.twitter.com/35DvPsUIxY

— basura (@HalfAtlanta) March 27, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 27 March 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Is this the time for Fred to shine? Reports of a coup under way (it's in The Guardian front page anyway)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 11:48 (four years ago) link

Looks like it.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 11:59 (four years ago) link

People on Twitter are dismissing. Tbh it's all based on a video from Guaido's account.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link

There’s about twelve soldiers. The idea seems to be to use it as a trigger to get people out onto the streets rather than actually being able to do much militarily.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 12:13 (four years ago) link

marco_rubio_cumface.gif

Government claims it's under control, and I'm inclined to believe them. Does not seem as if the people has risen up.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link

Look at the baby cry

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

One of Venezuela’s best journalists reporting that today’s action was planned for another day, and had strong military support - but they had to bring it forward because Guaido’s arrest was imminent, and then the military backed out https://t.co/65PLT8tbLZ

— Brian Winter (@BrazilBrian) April 30, 2019

Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

kinda feel like if maduro was gonna arrest him he’d have done it by now

well he definitely be getting arrested now so we'll never know

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

if that "strong military support" was really strong, it seems to me it wouldn't back out at the first hint of difficulty.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

A lot to unpack in that tweet.

Just love how that was the top story in The Guardian website for the afternoon, whereas there was very little by comparison on Twitter -- and that what you got from Twitter was more accurate in the end.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

it's a big story. is there another coup attempt going on that i missed?

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

Bolton and Guaido seem about as good at bringing peace to Venezuela as Kushner and MBS has been at bringing peace to the Middle East...

Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

Well so far the 'coup' is a video of Guaido's saying stuff with a few soldiers in the background that was posted from his twitter. That isn't news, unless you mean there is something else.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

xp to Jim

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

Are we sure they are soldiers, or are they just dressed like soldiers?

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

When I think of democracy the first thing that comes to mind is guns and tanks, yes. https://t.co/GUJ2wtzzIr

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) April 30, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

also the masses of the people on the streets around important centers of power including the ministry of defense and la carlota air force base.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

https://s1.latercera.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/vene4-700x450.jpg

"nothing happening"

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

(or actually opposing groups of civilians confronting each other, national guard out water-cannoning people and shooting teargas. gunshots

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

Are these masses of people quantitatively or qualitatively different from the masses who were rallying for Guaido a couple of months ago?

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

Thanks Jim, literally it was just that video of Guaido for much of the time. Seeing a bit more now..

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

Looking at that tank running at ppl, and from that it looks like the coup attempt will fail..

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

Are these masses of people quantitatively or qualitatively different from the masses who were rallying for Guaido a couple of months ago?

― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:16 AM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark

guaido specifically directed his supporters to that specific air force base (and other places) and his supporters and chavez supporters are there clashing. the national guard is also there

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

el pais has live video streaming https://elpais.com/internacional/2019/04/30/actualidad/1556618727_875831.html

it's not very illuminating but certainly shows that events are taking place

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link

Sounds like the same popular stalemate as before, with the armed forces still on the side of Maduro as the decisive make-weight. Maybe another Iraqi Kurdish uprising or Hungarian uprising of 1956 in the making?

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

If really Maduro cared about his people he would have at least have internationally monitored elections by now.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

don't worry guys, america's best and brightest minds are on the case

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 30 April 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link


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