billie eilish

Michael, I notice that too. Inwards aggression.

billie could u not https://genius.com/Billie-eilish-wish-you-were-gay-lyrics

whatever u say abt her she's much better than lorde

Based on those lyrics that seems... implausible

i haven't spent much time with lorde's music really but that seems like a perfectly defensible position to me

I like Billie Eilish but wow that seems totally wrong to me.

Call me when she's released something as good as "The Louvre" or "Writer in the Dark".

no one in history has ever described what they like about "the louvre" without mentioning its sole memorable line

it's good tho so i feel bad for dissing it

i always thought lorde was insanely overrated (esp by press ppl eager to have a young woman star or w/e during peak poptimism) so i have something of a bias here...the amt of hype leading into her soph project was ridic considering how quickly it faded afterward

but to me billie eilish whatever her other faults sells u on her as a kind of auteur in a way i never got from lorde personally

I've tried listening a few times and I wish she should speak up a little more.

I'm getting to the point where I can't really even listen to anyone who seems like a rich kid

her music is dreck and the claim that she's better than lorde is simply outrageous

which artist's hit tune contains the line "i'm kind of over getting told to throw my hands up in the air, so there"

Yea the 'so there'part almost seems like it was written by a self mocking teenager - I think her lyrics have come on a fair bit since then

fwiw I think most of the songs in this thread are better than "the louvre" or "writer in the dark"

So this is like soundcloud rap but pop/r&b? Everything madd my teenagers now seems to have this overriding note of bleakness that’s different than merely “sad” or “angsty”. (Not a critique—an observation).

this is the first wave of new music that’s made me feel old and out of the loop.

I think musically lana del rey is a better reference point than lorde, btw, but this is coming from a slightly different emotional place. (love lana)

it is that overriding note of bleakness that makes one feel out of the loop. i got it with brockhampton too. it is the music of *prepares self for trenchant overload* people raised by smart technology rather than humans, and therein lies the bleakness

I don’t want to go too far in saying why this kind of music is resonating with people born after 1995 but it certainly is. i’m wondering what exactly the musical qualities are that i’m picking up on

I learned about Billie Ellish from the 9-year-old.

He probably found her not from TV or a movie, but through a combination of TikTok, YouTube and Roblox.

Meanwhile, my Discover Weekly playlist on Spotify thinks I need more Canned Heat in my life.

My discover weekly wants to firmly keep me mentally in 2007. All the comfort food indie of my college years plus a bit of tasteful postpunk for when I feel retro. Maybe spotify is trying to protect me from something.

The idea of a 9 year old liking a song like “when the party’s over” is baffling to me.

Which one did this kid like pplains?

"Bury a Friend"

And yeah, my reaction was BURY A FRIEND???

Hey, I like this. It sounds fresh.

I'm getting to the point where I can't really even listen to anyone who seems like a rich kid

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, March 10, 2019 11:41 AM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Billie Eilish was born Billie Eilish Pirate Baird O’Connell, on December 18, 2001, in Los Angeles, California. She was born into a family of musicians and actors. She grew up with her elder brother. Her parents, Maggie Baird and Patrick O’Connell, were popular figures in the American entertainment industry."

I don't even need to Google these suddenly famous people anymore to discover that they are the pop music equivalent of landed gentry. Just once I'd like to be shocked to discover that one of these overnight successes was the son or daughter of a mail carrier or elementary school teacher.

https://i.imgur.com/I169CLm.jpg
lol @ the brother's face

why do i hate that picture so much? they all seem happy. you just sense something corrupt at the heart of it. like maybe the shadow of people who suffered so this family could enjoy such privilege, idk.

i did not have a great childhood, parents divorced when i was 3, but it was not awful either. but maybe it's just envy?

one of her middle names is literally pirate

what a cleverly curated family dog, it looks like the little rascals dog. barf.

and you know these parents are LIB AF but do you really trust that? i don't

This is all over the place stylistically but what's surprising is how much of it basically sounds like vintage store indie that's been messed around with a lot. Like take away some of the production choices and you could put several of these songs on a Feist album and no one would notice.

Hahaha I just got to the schaffel track as well, it's like an even darker more introverted version of the sort of thing that would have turned on a Britney album c. 2007-10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDr4ITrp7YI

As usual, Sean Evans does a great interview. She's entertaining, sometimes just a kid, sometimes mature perspective on her fame and art.

Bleak pop, to paraphrase treesh, is something I cannot but endorse. 'bury a friend' is pretty good.

She’s totally an industry plant, but because the audience it's directed towards is generally unfamiliar with this style of music it's successfully passed off as being something new and different.

Asides from pop music politics, she does have some cool songs and I don’t mind it.

Who do you think does it better?

It’s not about who does it better, it’s that she is being marketed as a counter-culture heroine against all these vacuous, party music in the charts sold by the same label she’s on.

Gotcha.

who the fuck cares whether anyone is an "industry plant"

What sort of plant is she? Like a yucca or a cactus or maybe a spider plant or something like that?

idk i think the term industry plant has to be reserved for people who the industry keeps pushing, but never develops a real fanbase. Eilish got a nudge from her label, no doubt, but there's also no doubting that she's genuinely extremely popular

So this is like soundcloud rap but pop/r&b

... no not really at all

also i like this a lot, it sounds cool as hell

i dig a few of these songs. it's bleak or whatever but also not too serious in a way idk i'm cool with the vibe

idk i think the term industry plant has to be reserved for people who the industry keeps pushing, but never develops a real fanbase.

Like Francis and The Lights.

The idea of a 9 year old liking a song like “when the party’s over” is baffling to me.

― Trϵϵship, Friday, March 29, 2019 1:55 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

absolutely baffling to me that adults would wring their hands over why a 9-year-old would like a pretty piano ballad

Idk why either a 9yo liking a sad song or an adult wringing their hands about it would be baffling to someone who is familiar with popular music history.:P

this is better than i expected. it is funny to listen to it w/o visuals given the narrative around her... how different is this than like alessia cara/skylar grey? less mawkish certainly & she has some wit about her clearly. i guess matt dc is picking up on the same thing just a diff axis of music. reading the description of this on apple music and it mentions tyler the creator & stuff which.... i guess. all of that stuff kind of undersells how this is just a pretty well done version of the sort of very female alt pop album that has existed throughout the last several decades of pop music. i guess i find the updated flourishes to not be such a leap but if she didn't come along branding herself the way she is somebody else would've. actually this reminds me a lot of xxxtentacion sonically.

anyway i didn't realize "you should see me in a crown" is that song that sounds like... every song on reputation. not a bad song but that one threw me off. "wish you were gay" and "when the party's over" stood out to me but as far as album tracks go she sounds better on stuff like "bad guy" and "my strange addiction" than i would've figured.

Idk why either a 9yo liking a sad song or an adult wringing their hands about it would be baffling to someone who is familiar with popular music history.:P

― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, March 29, 2019 1:59 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just weird to think of this particular artist as some kind of line in the sand imo. "xanny" reminded me of fiona apple of all things. beyond the well-defined and executed aesthetic this is just... songwriting

it's almost like they're reacting to the idea of the sound in their head than the songs themselves

ok ok you're right, popular music history bears this out over and over

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/billie-eilish-dance-cam-bad-guy-dodgers-game-1386733/

Billie Eilish was dancing to her own song at Dodger Stadium 😂 💃 pic.twitter.com/OQjA6zZ7VA

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) July 22, 2022

https://autos.yahoo.com/billie-eilish-achieves-dance-cam-124811897.html

2-song EP

this is literally not extended

went to post the crossed arms smiley but functional image search is a thing of the past

2-song EP

this is literally not extended

I'm tempted to quibble about that: the "extended" in EP surely means extended compared to a single, and as nowadays singles generally are one-track releases (rather than the misnamed doubles of yore), I guess a two-track EP is within reason?

lmao who gives even the slightest fuck

Apparently her 2018 cover of Drake’s “Hotline Bling” has been getting TikTok heat; so she released an edit that’s only the second half (without the actual lyric/vocal)? Pretty random…

Btw – i’ve posted this elsewhere, but it’s one of my favorite tracks this year so far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVCNgOi4kFg

The hotline edit was released because that’s the portion of the song trending on twitter and I guess they wanted to monetize on it. Weird to only upload a portion though… I assume you pay less royalties?

Yeah I wondered if that portion doesn’t technically incorporate any of the songwriting on the Drake song…

songwriters listed as drake, paul jefferies (drake's producer) and timmy thomas (as sampled in drake's hotline bling)

but there is still money to be made from those millions of streams the song will undoubtably get

But how many times will people listen to a minute-long slice of ambience? I'm sure a million ppl will stream it once (like I did)... but if it were the full song, it would end up on playlists etc. And if the songwriters get paid anyway...

I'm sure there's a logic, it's just opaque to me – they didn't even include the full title in the track name.

my guess as to why they released this “version” is because billie doesn’t actually like the full cover & didn’t want it officially released and turned into a whole thing. if it’s from 2018 then she was prob 15 when she made it, it feels likely to me that she’s sheepish/embarrassed by it being revived out of nowhere 6 years later by tik tok & so she gave her label the okay to monetize the version that basically sounds like… nothing

i don’t think there’s any business reason why you would do it this way. a copyright is a copyright you don’t get to pay less if you only release a 59 second song

Sure, I just thought maybe that section was entirely disconnected from the original song; to the point they could slice it off and treat it as a separate composition... thus also the truncated title... obv not the case though!

Very nice new ballad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW8VLC9nnTo

This is a good song, not quite Vampire great but good nonetheless.

Yeah v different contexts – soundtrack contribution vs. lead single for a new album.

Billie Eilish debuted "What Was I Made For?" at Lollapalooza.pic.twitter.com/urcnRF8mVy

— CONSEQUENCE (@consequence) August 4, 2023

Can't say I understand the literal weeping but nice performance

Barbie effect. I wasn’t blown away when I first heard the song but I have to say it was used very effectively in the movie and drove several women in my screening (including my stepkid) to tears

Sounds like she dedicated the performance to recently deceased actor Angus Cloud, so maybe that was part of the reason for the emotion (I don’t know if they were close).

Oh wait I’m sorry, that’s a different song

This article reveals that she's "putting the finishing touches on her third studio album."

third album rollout looks like it's about to start