Calamine "Sealab 2021 Theme" (i dont know how long this is)
― billstevejim, Friday, 22 February 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link
fucked up the formatting sorry
Calamine - Sealab 2021 Theme (0:25)
i guessed
― billstevejim, Friday, 22 February 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link
Is "The Lovely Linda" really a good choice for this?
― billstevejim, Friday, 22 February 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link
contra morrisp these eno tracks are v welcome in the noms playlist
― ogmor, Friday, 22 February 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link
They may not fit very well in the overall punk/rock'n'roll-ish slant of the playlist, but those Eno tracks were the first thing I thought of as examples of 'miniatures'.
― jmm, Friday, 22 February 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link
Calamine "Sealab 2021 Theme" (i dont know how long this is)― billstevejim, Friday, February 22, 2019 1:20 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― billstevejim, Friday, February 22, 2019 1:20 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
damn nice one
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Friday, 22 February 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link
Tay-K - The Race (1:44)
― we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Friday, 22 February 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link
ehh actually the Spotify version is 2:20, but the original YouTube version that caught fire was 1:44. I'll leave that one up to the judges
― we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Friday, 22 February 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
― billstevejim, Friday, February 22, 2019 12:29 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes imo
― budo jeru, Friday, 22 February 2019 21:17 (five years ago) link
Boris - "Electric" (1:45)
― Gaseous Clay (Leee), Friday, 22 February 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link
Aimee Mann - Just Like Anyone (1:22)Air Miami - Sweet as a Candy Bar (1:33)The Beatles - Mean Mr. Mustard (1:06)The Beatles - It's Only Love (1:59)Bert Jansch & John Renbourne - East Wind (1:25)Bill Wells & Maher Shalal Baz - Duck (1:05)Bill Wells & Maher Shalal Baz - On the Beach Boys Bus (1:47)Bill Wells & Maher Shalal Baz - Banned Announcements (1:57)Bob Dylan - Father of Night (1:30)The Breeders - When I Was a Painter (1:40), "Pod" demoBrian Eno - The Last Door (1:31)Brian Eno - A Measured Room (1:03)Broadcast - Microtonics 05 (1:47)Calexico - Inch By Inch (0:48)Calexico - 6 White Horses (0:28)
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 22 February 2019 22:46 (five years ago) link
Waxahatchee - Coast to Coast (1:46)Deerhunter - Cover Me (Slowly) (1:21)
― geoffreyess, Friday, 22 February 2019 23:05 (five years ago) link
a frames - u-boat (1:44)buzzcocks - oh shit! (1:36)electrelane - come back (0:07)elvis costello & the attractions - no action (1:59)guided by voices - a good flying bird (1:07)hot snakes - mystery boy (1:59)jawbreaker - boxcar (1:54)jethro tull - cheap day return (1:23)jethro tull - slipstream (1:13)jethro tull - wond'ring aloud (1:55)magnetic fields - wi' nae wee bairn ye'll me beget (1:55)mekons - never been in a riot (1:43)misfits - where eagles dare (1:59)sleater-kinney - write me back fucker (1:37)wedding present - dan dare (1:41)yo la tengo - 86-second blowout (1:26)
***this version of 'where eagles dare' is from legacy of brutality; other versions appear to be longer, so this may not count
― mookieproof, Saturday, 23 February 2019 01:25 (five years ago) link
getting ready to enter song #440 into the spreadsheet. friday nights are wild around here!
just as a reminder, the giant nomnoms playlist is here: https://open.spotify.com/user/weinventyou/playlist/5NYa3dBthFiDcftI0ObtC3?si=xHwMqu3nTQSJ535K_5xs4w
so far, 403 of the 439 songs have been on spotify
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:19 (five years ago) link
i mean, this playlist is way too long. but also, it rules. good job ILM. but, also, ok, stop nominating songs sometime soon. gonna cut it off soon because i'm only about a 1/3 of the way through so far (just added Ken Nordine - Yellow). so i'm gonna guess that we already have around 1300 songs or so. that seems like a decent nominations list. i'll wait til the middle of Saturday to announce this, but maybe just 3 or 4 more days to get your nomnoms in.
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:53 (five years ago) link
Unrest - Bavarian Mods (1:18)Cheap Trick - Hello There (1:41)Cub - Go Fish (1:57)*Cub - My Chinchilla (1:24)James - What's The World (1:56)*Jacques Dutronc - Mini-mini-mini (1:54)Morrissey - I Know Very Well How I Got My Name (1:59)*Perfume Genius - You Won't B Here (1:38)Perfume Genius - Hood (1:58)*Liz Phair - Glory (1:30)PJ Harvey - Snake (1:37)Robert Fripp - Mary (1:59)The Damned - So Messed Up (1:50)X-Ray Spex - I Am A Cliche (1:54)The Breeders - I Just Wanna Get Along (1:44)The Fall - Terry Waite Sez (1:38)The Fall - Like To Blow (Peel Session) (1:47)Syd Barrett - She Took A Long Cold Look (1:55)Syd Barrett - Dark Globe (1:58)PJ Harvey - Snake (1:37)Air Miami - Airplane Rider (1:52)Julie Doiron - His Girlfriend (1:16)Galaxie 500 - Crazy (1:57)The Wedding Present - Venus (1:53)The Wedding Present - Every Mothers Son (1:36)Wire - Men 2nd (1:44)Wire - I Feel Mysterious Today (1:58)Misfits - She (1:22)Misfits - Skulls (1:59)
*timed these myself - extraneous silence at end skew timings
― lingereffect (Kent Burt), Saturday, 23 February 2019 04:51 (five years ago) link
qual thx
― alomar lines, Saturday, 23 February 2019 06:19 (five years ago) link
Last batch:The Beat - Walking Out on Love (1:44) *Delfonics - Ready Or Not Here I Come (1:59)Superchunk - Me & You & Jackie Mittoo (1:58)Big Black - The Power of Independent Trucking (1:28)Michael & the Messengers - (Just Like) Romeo & Juliet (1:58)The Byrds - It Won't Be Wrong (1:58)Titus Andronicus - Titus Andronicus Forever (1:55)
*the history of this song is a little confusing (to me). The band soon became Paul Collins' Beat, and I think the version on Spotify might be a later re-recording. It was originally recorded when Collins was in The Breakaways, who shortly became the Nerves, and that version is on there too. I'm definitely voting for it though.
― Chris L, Saturday, 23 February 2019 10:55 (five years ago) link
Frankie Cosmos - Fool (1:59:99)This is p borderline so i understand if it’s thrown out but I make it just under two minutes removing the silence at the end. Absolute tune though so worth the argument.
― Hey hey, the tipple’s weak sherry (fionnland), Saturday, 23 February 2019 12:25 (five years ago) link
Scratch that I feel bad for bending the rules and I think the silence is an important part of it
― Hey hey, the tipple’s weak sherry (fionnland), Saturday, 23 February 2019 12:39 (five years ago) link
Oh damn throwback!
Fagatron - Asskickatron (1:48)
― Hey hey, the tipple’s weak sherry (fionnland), Saturday, 23 February 2019 12:58 (five years ago) link
Stereolab - Black Ants in Sound-Dust (1:56)Stina Nordenstam - Proposal (1:57)Daphne & Celeste - Golden Doldrum (1:57)Denim - The New Potatoes (1:55)Mitski - Strawberry Blond (1:54)Mitski - Class of 2013 (1:50)Serge Gainsbourg - Ah! Melody (1:47)Go-Kart Mozart - Plead With the Man (1:36)Stina Nordenstam - Clothe Yourself for the Wind (1:36)Sleater-Kinney - The Professional (1:31)Tori Amos - Mr Zebra (1:07)British Sea Power - Favours in the Beetroot Fields (1:17)OMD - This is Helena (1:58)Prince - Sister (1:32)
― technopolis, Saturday, 23 February 2019 12:59 (five years ago) link
Brakes - Heard About Your Band (1:31)Brakes - Cheney (0:12)Papa M - Sorrow Reigns (1:19)tompaulin - Wedding Song (1:48)
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 23 February 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link
I have finally trawled my iTunes and this is my extremely extensive list of things I would like to nominate as a result (for now)
Serena-Maneesh - Un-Deux (1:57)
― imago, Saturday, 23 February 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link
EMA - Coda (1.01)Game Theory - The World's Easiest Job (1.33)
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Saturday, 23 February 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link
so now that the nominations have slowed to a trickle of dozens upon dozens per day, i'm going to go ahead and say
NOMINATIONS DEADLINE: MONDAY, FEB 25, MIDNIGHT (WHATEVER TIME ZONE YOU WANT TO USE)
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 17:28 (five years ago) link
Aw no, I was hoping it would be Tuesday or Wednesday, give me a little more time to go searching through my brain. But I guess noms can't go on forever, I'll have to just work hard through my hangover tomorrow.
― emil.y, Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link
Maura pointed out that Ween's "Pumpin' 4 The Man" isn't on here
Ween "Pumpin' 4 the Man" (1:31)
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 23 February 2019 18:57 (five years ago) link
Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band - One Rose That I Mean (1:53)The Durutti Column - Beginning (1:41)e.s.t. - AjarElliott Smith - Georgia, Georgia (1:46)The Fall - Coach and Horses (1:49)The Fall - To Nkroachment: Yarbles (1:23)Felt - Red Indians (1:54)Felt - Ferdinand Magellan (1:59)Geisterfahrer - Himmel auf Erden (1:57)Giant Sand - Thrust (0:35)Gonzales - Oregano (1:25)
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 23 February 2019 21:29 (five years ago) link
Guided By Voices - To Remake the Young Flyer (1:43)Harmonia & Brian Eno - When Shade Was Born (1:31)Hatfield & the North - Bossa Nochance (0:40)The High Llamas - Cuckoo Casino (0:56)Idaho - Let's Cheat Death (1:37)John Cale - Days of Steam (1:58)Joy Division - Drawback (1:47), RCA demo
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 23 February 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link
Fantastic song that I could nitpick over--how long the actual song is vs. what it's listed as--but I won't bother: the Jamies' "Summertime, Summertime." I know there are a thousand songs just like it that are going to miss by a second because of this gray area.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 February 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link
speaking of, i have been ruminating on the issue of how to decide which songs are eligible, and i'd like to propose something. as henry clay once said, a good compromise leaves absolutely everyone incredibly angry, and provokes entire generations of communities and families to take up arms against those who supported the compromise, fighting to the death.
i have been unhappy with my approach on this up until now, because it's been very inconsistent. when songs are around or just above 2 minutes, i've been listening to them and trying to figure out where the last bit of sound occurs as the song fades out. so maybe a song is technically 2:02 on Spotify but 5 seconds of that are silence, so I'd say it counted. but in practice, that's a very sloppy and time-consuming way to go about things, and each time i do it i feel worse and worse.. and also, there must be tons of songs that are listed at 2:01 and 2:02 that people didn't bother nominating, even though they might have been eligible using my previous method. i don't like that.
so what about this: Spotify will be the decider of what is under 2 minutes. if Spotify says it's 2:00 or longer, it doesn't count, even if the song clearly fades out a few seconds before the 2 minute mark. Spotify has the vast majority of nominated songs, and i'm constantly looking at it because i'm updating the playlist as i go, so that's why i'm going with it as the primary arbitrator of song length. if Spotify doesn't have a song, the fall-back option will be Discogs, which should cover all other songs.
i recognize this will make some people angry. i'll make a list of the songs that will now be excluded from the nominations that i've already cataloged, and i'll continue to list them as i go through the rest of the thread (i'm at around song #500 right now, with many more to go). but really, i don't think it will end up eliminating that many songs. if you look at the spotify playlist so far, almost everything is under 2 minutes, and just a handful are at 2 or above.
anyway, before i begin the mass deletion exercise, i'll wait to see what you all think. clemenza, i'm assuming you will be a target of most of this, because you've been the most vocal about advocating for songs that end up being technically just a hair over two minutes. i hope you'll understand, but i think that just using spotify's data as an arbitrator will make things much more simple and consistent. and if you like, we can do a side poll of songs that are listed as between 2:00 and 2:02 on Spotify, so they're not left out entirely.
what do you all think? sorry for long post but wanted to explain the reasoning
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link
also, anticipating a complaint: if you don't have spotify that's totally cool, just nominate a song if you think it's below 2 minutes. if our music overlord spotify doesn't agree, i will let you all know
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link
Jay Reatard – “Blood Visions” (1:32)Jay Reatard – “It's So Easy" (1:10)Jay Reatard – “Not a Substitute” (1:05)
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link
The problem I have with the Spotify thing--and yes, I have a team of lawyers and a stockpile of ammo at the ready--is that it may not be the original version. It could be some mediocre re-recording of "Problems" that the Everly Brothers did for the Gusto label in 1971 to make some well-deserved money, instead of the original Cadence version in 1958. That happens all the time on YouTube, on Soulseek, and in other contexts; I assume it happens on Spotify, too.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:20 (five years ago) link
If it's 100% guaranteed the original version on Spotify--if that has been checked--and they list it as over 2:00, sure; you get to make up the rules. Even with "Problems," where virtually anything else you check has it listed under 2:00.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:23 (five years ago) link
xps yeah Karl, ditch this weaselly nonsense, use Spotify as the arbiter
― sold out in presale (sleeve), Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:24 (five years ago) link
Problems, problems, problems--problems all day long. (1:58 on YouTube!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viS6szdHPXE
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link
that's a very good example, because spotify has "problems" at 2:01, even though it clearly fades out by 1:55.
well, how about this amendment, then. we'll call it the clemenza accord.
if you feel that a song has been unjustly excluded due to a weird version of it being on spotify, kindly produce proof via discogs. for example, for "problems", the following would do:
"hey karl malone, i'm nominating the original version of the everly brothers' 'problems', which is 1:54: https://www.discogs.com/The-Everly-Brothers-Problems/release/2139517"
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link
please, though: use discogs as your secondary source, not something else. i don't really see youtube as a very helpful secondary source, it just raises more questions. most of all, i just want a simple process
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link
That's just Sleeve venting his pathological (and bizarre) hatred for me. I can say this because he file-killed me--my life hasn't been the same since--and he won't read this post.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:27 (five years ago) link
Fair compromise; thanks for giving some thought to these things.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link
songs slated to get the axe:
jerry lee lewis - boogie (2:01 on spotify)kleenex/liliput - Split (2:01 on spotify)misfits - mommy can i go out & kill tonight? (2:02 on spotify)super furry animals - do or die (2:06 on spotify)the plastics - I AM PLASTIC (2:18 on spotify)(i checked Discogs because it appears on couple different releases, but even there, the shortest listed i could find is 2:01)gloria edwards - lonely girl (2:00)idlewild - self healer (2:00)no age - my life's alright without you (2:00)
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link
Hey karl malone, I'm nominating the original version of Jerry Lee Lewis's "Lewis Boogie," which is 1:59 on Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/Jerry-Lee-Lewis-Lewis-Boogie/release/4669109.
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:37 (five years ago) link
(I'm waving the white flag on "Split," though--also 2:00 on Discogs.)
― clemenza, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:40 (five years ago) link
I think the Spotify Protocol is a sound method.
Here are my last batch, 1:30 to 1:59 - do suspect that my nominations are only 50% on Spotify, but it was fun to listen to them anyway.
Serge Gainsbourg - Valse de Melody (1:31)Serge Gainsbourg - L'appareil à sous (1:33)Kenickie - J.P. (1:34)Lung Leg - Chop Chop (1:34)Pinkfong - Baby Shark (1:36)Kunt & The Gang - A Picture of The Queen (1:37)Fanfare Ciocarlia - Sirba de la Lasi (1:40)Stereolab - Space Age Bachelop Pad Music (Mellow) (1:44)Pulp - 59 Lyndhurst Grove (1:46)The Rakes - 22 Grand Job (1:46)The Yummy Fur - The Career Saver (1:47)The Male Nurse - Magic Circle In The Sky (1:51)GFOTY - Don't Wanna / Let's Do It (1:52)Greg Foat Group - Yeah You Are (1:54)The Divine Comedy - Festive Road (1:55)Rezillos - Somebody's Gonna Get Their Head Kicked In Tonight (1:56)The Perfect Disaster - Down (Here I Go) (1:57)
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:48 (five years ago) link
i hereby do declare that "lewis boogie" has been exonerated and shall remain eligible
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 February 2019 22:57 (five years ago) link
Marathons – Peanut Butter (1:57)
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 23 February 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link
Hey karl malone, I'm nominating the Soul Queen of Texas version of Gloria Edwards' "Lonely Girl" which is 1:58 on Allmusic: https://www.allmusic.com/album/the-soul-queen-of-texas-the-crazy-cajun-recordings-mw0000244619
The track lengths aren't listed on Discogs so an alternative secondary source was needed! But the version in my iTunes library is 1:57 and Youtube version is 1:55.
― Hey hey, the tipple’s weak sherry (fionnland), Saturday, 23 February 2019 23:14 (five years ago) link
Oh and Discogs does actually have the track length on "100 Hits Northern Soul" which is 1:57 and I imagine is the same version (but I can't verify)
https://www.discogs.com/composition/b6ddb019-1bf4-4928-a19d-c4938b16ac65-Lonely-Girl
― Hey hey, the tipple’s weak sherry (fionnland), Saturday, 23 February 2019 23:17 (five years ago) link