really it'd be cool if someone discovered a legit song shorter than the napalm death's "you suffer"― Karl Malone, Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:48 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, February 19, 2019 10:48 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"You Suffer" was inspired by Wehrmacht's "E!" which is a split second long
― ⅋ (crüt), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 14:50 (five years ago) link
I had an idea for this poll.
How about instead of ranking 77-1 or w/e we could have the highest-scoring track 0:01 long, 0:02 long, etc.?
Is this a terrible idea or a brilliant one? The Wehrmacht track above would be my vote for 0:01, that is class.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
you could generate that list with the results afterwards
― ogmor, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:34 (five years ago) link
I don't want to vote for 119 different categories
― ogmor, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link
Jawbox - His Only Trade (1:59)Jawbox - Mule/Stall (1:55)The Mothers of Invention - Uncle Meat Main Title Theme (1:56)Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band - The Dust Blows Forward 'n The Dust Blows Back (1:53)Bongwater - Ill Fated Lovers Go Time Tripping (1:53)The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Ain't No Telling (1:51)The Beach Boys - Little Deuce Coupe (1:49)Deerhoof - Flower (1:47)Vashti Bunyan - Diamond Day (1:47)The Mothers of Invention - Oh No (1:46)The Residents - Amber (1:04)Frank Zappa - Excentrifugal Forz (1:34)Harry Nilsson - Jesus Christ You're Tall (1:26)Emmet Otter and Friends - Barbeque (1:40)The Muppets - Muppet Show Theme Song (1:12)Belle & Sebastian - Scooby Driver (1:13)Raymond Scott - Lightworks (1:52)
Also, I feel like this collection is relevant to the poll:https://www.discogs.com/Various-Miniatures-A-Sequence-Of-Fifty-One-Tiny-Masterpieces-Edited-By-Morgan-Fisher/release/347586
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
you could generate that list with the results afterwards― ogmor, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:34 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ogmor, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:34 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes, this is true, it's just another way to present the same data.
I don't want to vote for 119 different categories― ogmor, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:35 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ogmor, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:35 (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I don't mean for the voting, just for the results.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link
Also, I feel like this collection is relevant to the poll:https://www.discogs.com/Various-Miniatures-A-Sequence-Of-Fifty-One-Tiny-Masterpieces-Edited-By-Morgan-Fisher/release/347586― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:36 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:36 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Quentin Crisp's "Stop The Music For A Minute" is a solid choice for any compilation, but putting it anywhere apart from right at the end is just terrible sequencing
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link
xxp that's the 3rd time Diamond Day has been nominated, CTRL-F people
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:41 (five years ago) link
i like that idea but it might cause some confusion for people viewing the results (for example, the 11th place track would say 0:11 long, but it would actually be 1:42, or whatever)
but also, leee already suggested a fun idea for the roll-out of the results...don't know how to describe it without blowing it, but it'll be fun!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:49 (five years ago) link
For the 2:00 side poll, Elvis Costello - Mystery Dance.
On Spotify, this clocks in at 1:36 (the album version; are there others?)
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link
The Knife - High School Poem (1:24)Radiohead - you never wash up after yourself (1:44)Idlewild - You've lost your way (1:30)
― kinder, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:55 (five years ago) link
can you ctrl-f on the Flagging app?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length)
No way! It's perfect for a middle song - you're stopping the music for a minute.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link
(Speaking from years and years of putting it on compilation tapes for people)
Also, I was really looking forward to this but am feeling quite overwhelmed by the prospect now, there are so many songs. I know they're short but I also feel like a lot of people have just dumped every short song they can think of onto the list, so it's not just the best cool short things but every track by every band who regularly write short songs.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link
^^^^^^^this ffs
― imago, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
seriously think we should lock this thread and begin again with a nomination limit
― imago, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link
obviously I appreciate the hard work KM has put himself in for but it could be a lot less hard for him and all of us with a few more rules
― imago, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:49 (five years ago) link
uh oh poll police, nothing to see here guv
― goats eat grandma (NickB), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link
yr probably rite tho
― goats eat grandma (NickB), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
as the wielder of ultimate power i reject this idea
it will be ok! it's a lot of songs! it's ok to just skim through them and pick the ones you know. you're not legally obligated to listen to every nominated song and formulate the all-time perfect list. you ARE legally obligated to listen to some good music and pick your faves, potentially in an ordered list, and to have fun doing it
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
No way! It's perfect for a middle song - you're stopping the music for a minute.― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:24 (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:24 (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Disagree! He's calling for all must to stop, now, nothing can follow that, surely.
Also, I was really looking forward to this but am feeling quite overwhelmed by the prospect now, there are so many songs. I know they're short but I also feel like a lot of people have just dumped every short song they can think of onto the list, so it's not just the best cool short things but every track by every band who regularly write short songs.― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:26 (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:26 (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Agree! Dumping 5+ tracks from one band is really not on, why not choose the best 2 or 3? Can anyone really deal with a 1000+ song playlist to get through?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link
and i will have fun suing everyone who doesn't have fun after this is all over
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link
I am morally obligated to try to listen to everything though!
I just think having too many songs that people don't really love dilutes the whole experience, but fine idk
― imago, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:57 (five years ago) link
it's possible that i am more easygoing about this than most people, but that is the consequence of Leee officially handing over the flaming sword of pollrunning authority. as i sliced my tongue open and felt the searing heat blend in with the rivers of blood running down my throat, i knew that it would not be easy. but i am determined to make sure that it is fun
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link
i DO agree that people should not nominate songs that they're not going to seriously consider voting for. definitely agree with that. but i think that's an implied rule for every nominations thread, right? starting it over will just result in lower participation, plus a side-argument about whether or not starting over was the correcting thing to do.
so i do declare, from this point on, please just nominate songs you actually like. as i mentioned in section 19 of my multivolume Q&A (the first of a planned quadrilogy), it's not a fucking list thread ffs (though it is, technically, but you know what i mean)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link
how many tracks can we vote for again?
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link
tbd, but seems like consensus is leaning toward 50
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link
Should be able to vote for 99 minutes so if your songs are EXTRA short you have more votes
i'm just kidding this is a bad idea
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link
Buffy Sainte-Marie - Cripple Creek (1.50)Odetta - Come a Lady's Dream (1.48)
― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link
also your number one song should be worth one point, and your 50th-ranked song should be worth 0.02 points so all of the scores are lil baby scores
i'm so helpful today
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link
not a bad idea Will M! ;) (leee mentioned something similar)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link
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Karl 50 sounds good
I stand by my 80 nominations but I could probably cut 30 of them since I wouldn't be able to vote for them anyway
let me know if you want an edited list - also, some of those tracks aren't on Spotify
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link
i haven't gotten to your nomnoms yet, sleeve. but yeah, how about cut them down to 50 and repost your list below. when i go through more of the list tonight i'll just skip your post above
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:22 (five years ago) link
Iirc the last words are "AND DIE" so I always put something suitably doomy afterwards. Though a particularly peppy upbeat pop song could be a good contrast/FU Crisp move.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link
I definitely don't think we should restart the poll or anything, and a lot of stuff I think of as filler *will* be someone else's fave, I think I was more just expressing trepidation about dealing with it. I guess I'll pay more attention to the repping phase when voting opens than I will spend time trying to listen to the uber-list.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link
OK here's an edited list of 50
Black Flag - Fix Me 0:54Misfits - Spinal Remains 1:23Urinals - I'm White and Middle Class 0:52Germs - What We Do Is Secret 0:41Angry Samoans - Hot Cars 0:31Bad Brains - Pay To Cum 1:29Untouchables - Nic Fit 0:59Dead Kennedys - Your Emotions 1:20The Fix - Vengeance 1:25Circle Jerks - Deny Everything 0:23Teen Idles - Teen Idles 0:44Dicks - Fake Bands 1:25S.O.A. - Lost In Space 0:41Adolescents - Word Attack 1:05Big Boys - Advice 1:05Minor Threat - Filler 1:31Black Flag - I've Heard It Before 1:38Dead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck Off 0:58The Fix - Cos The Elite 1:18Angry Samoans - Lights Out 0:51Necros - IQ 32 0:23Zero Boys - Vicious Circle 0:41Husker Du - Guns In My School 0:55Really Red - Pigboy 1:18Kraut - Matinee 1:27Bad Brains - Attitude 1:19Bored Youth - They Don't Have The Right 1:077 Seconds - Fuck Your Amerika 0:48Black Flag - Police Story 1:30Minor Threat - Out Of Step (With The World) 1:15Angry Samoans - Gas Chamber 0:59Misfits - Mommy, Can I Go Out And Kill Tonight? 1:39Die Kreuzen - Fighting 1:00Husker Du - M.I.C. 1:05Bad Posture - GDMFSOB 1:30Descendents - I'm Not A Punk 1:03Big Boys - Apolitical 0:41Really Red - Teenage Fuck Up 1:17Gang Green - Snob 0:25Scream - Came Without Warning 1:45The Freeze - This Is Boston, Not LA 0:34Void - Think 1:48Husker Du - Obnoxious 0:51Die Kreuzen - Don't Say Please 1:01Bad Brains - F.V.K. 0:59D.R.I. - I Don't Need Society 1:14Big Boys - Assault 0:56Misfits - Devilock 1:24Die Kreuzen - Hate Me 0:43Nip Drivers - New Meiji Takeover 1:08
― sleeve, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link
xpost yeah, i'm with you there emil.y . my approach is just going to be to take the time to listen to each individual artist. but when it comes to bands that have 20 different songs listed or something, i don't feel the need to go through every single one (unless i worship them, like Wire) so i'll just skip to the next thing i'm interested in.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link
can't believe there's no ivor cutler nommed yet, but he has about 7,000 pieces to choose from. help me someone plz!
― goats eat grandma (NickB), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
The one about being in a field?
― imago, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link
Oneohtrix Point Never - SDFK (1:27)
― silverfish, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link
I thought I saw an Ivor Cutler nom earlier, but if not then I am also surprised. Last.fm lists 'I'm Going In a Field' as exactly 2:00, though, and the only youtube I can see is 2:10.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link
Ivor Cutler - I Think Very Deeply (0:54)
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link
Damn, I was just about to nominated 71 songs all titled "Intro" but now I can't with you guys ruining all the fun.
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 19:26 (five years ago) link
FWIW, I "actually like" (a lot!) all the songs I nominated; including the single-artist multiples. (There probably should have been a "one track per artist" rule, but I wasn't gonna handcuff myself unilaterally!)
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 19:29 (five years ago) link
John Cage, Sonata No. 5 (1:52)
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link
(Well, I was kinda joking when I nominated every track from Group Sex... only kinda joking, though)
― yuh yuh (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link
An Albatross - I Am the Lazer Viking (0:45)
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 19:31 (five years ago) link
^^ yes! I had forgotten about that song. It rules
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link