"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

Enabling a Tory Brexit is shit but taking attention away from the government’s failings & impending crashout is infinitely shittier. Gavin Williamson must be laughing with his tarantula today.

Smith's racist comments will have pleased some of the Penistonian inbreds earlier, but her brexit stance will alienate others.

Racism for some, miniature European flags for others.

as napoleon said, never, or was it always? interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake. in any case, it is with heavy heart that i etc club etc club

I bet Chuka is secretly harbouring wet dreams of replicating Macron's walk down the Champs Elysee, or wherever it was, on winning the French Presidential Election.

Chuka thinks of himself as Obama, not Macron.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chuka-umunnas-british-obama-wikipedia-entry-came-from-his-former-office-8569083.html

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/apr/19/nick-clegg-obama

lol the graun haven't deleted this from their archive out of pure embarrassment yet.

Is Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg an Obama-style hero for our times, a Churchillian leader or a popular rebel in the mould of Che Guevara? Perhaps he's just another great British underdog

I understand that the main aim is to stop a Labour government, thats been clear for years, but that doesn't answer the question of how this actually helps them. I can't really see any interest in policy of any kind, seems to be more about the leader (presumably once Corbyn is replaced anti-semitism will disappear with him and they can rejoin?)

They have a lot to lose from any upcoming election, which must be a real risk given the landscape

lol thx to the gdn's weird page furniture choices i thought the nick-clegg-is-obama piece was actually BY nick clegg

My pleasure. https://t.co/NmNwRsRzFc

— John Prescott (@johnprescott) February 18, 2019

class

I for one am extremely happy that we're back in another era of ears-to-the-door kremlinology and bullshit briefings around PLP meetings. how delightfully retro

Also they probably know that if you quit a party because of a man approaching his 70s at a particularly febrile and unstable period in history without a very good reason then you're an idiot.

I know a few of us are counting the days and all but Corbyn has shown pretty good durability so far. Besides there is a high chance of the next leader coming from the left which would mean reduced career opportunities for these MPs deciding to stay and I wouldn't say that the people who stay are going to win, history doesn't automatically repeat itself and the conditions for what they might call a win just aren't there.

The next leader is extremely likely to come from the left but it's also basically a cert that they will be pro-European, which removes at least one plank of objection. For all we know they won't be under immediate siege from within their own party and as a result more likely to reach out to a wider pool of MPs - whatever the make-up of the PLP is after the next election.

good job this shower of clowns is the main story today and not the Fox Hunt tag team fucking up trade deal talks with Japan + angering them with their "high handed" talk and obvious desperation.

Not sure about that. I can see a lot of MPs that I thought might make the jump today would have problems with a left programme (building more council housing or bringing in nationalisation etc., higher taxes for the rich), so I think the membership and momentum will be constantly on their case. And I am guessing by the time Corbyn is done a lot of the questions around Europe might be settled as well. But yes its likely the next leader will be more imperialist. xp

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/18/good-riddance-penistone-locals-have-their-say-on-labour-angela-smith-resignation

Inspired by #LabourSplit, I am resigning from the Dept. of Politics @ Concrete Hope to form a new Independent Academic Network (membership =me); this is not a new Dept. but could develop into one. For now I remain in my office but won’t be obeying orders to teach or see students.

— Prof. Brit Pol (@ProfBritPol_PhD) February 18, 2019

The questions around Europe will never be settled, the relationship is going to be consistently in flux and the country is going to be arguing about this for decades.

this stuff sounds boilerplate but it really is lack of:

1) vision - to see that this could fucking happen
2) leadership - to say shut the fuck up ERG and if you don't like it try your luck with paul nuttall

taking about cameron obv

L

that Angela Smith graun piece has a very misleading url, i think it was only the old lad who looks like a 17th pirate in the photo who actually says good riddance - fair play to him though.

17th century

The outcomes around Brexit might be settled in a few weeks, in some way. And Corbyn is around for that.

In terms of the future the what to do about Europe question will take a back seat to climate change. In a few years we might laugh that we even gave it that much thought in the first place. xps to Matt

Well yes we're fiddling while the earth burns but good luck dealing with climate change without greater international cooperation.

Don’t make me laugh, I can almost guarantee that every issue from now on will be seen through the lens of Europe. Either comparing the UK to Europe or saying whatever issue would be better solved in/out/in a different relationship with Europe.

Outside Europe there will be no money and the ERG fuckers will be pushing for all pollution controls, labour market rules, everything else to be sent back to Victorian times. Inside Europe and they’ll be pushing the side of the bus bullshit.

Outside Europe they’ll be no money and if labour gets in then they’ll spend a lot of energy and political capital patching up the UK’s relationship with the rest of the world from a very weak position.

Inside Europe well patching up has to happen and the whole russian/hedge fund/tinpot Machiavelli orchestrated shit show continues.

Whichever way things go feelings of division and betrayal will dominate politics for decades.

At least the economic slump with be good for the environment.

At best, and this is pure fantasy, Corbyn squeaks in with a hung parliament supported by a rainbow coalition of nats, libs, the Indy tinge and he somehow trades of a second referendum for electoral reform, devo max and a rainbow unicorn.

Yes Matt international coorperation which means Europe and the rest of the world. A lot of it really feels like a fiddle while the world burns for sure.

Lol no one is going to care on whatever agreement is passed through fucking Parliament, or what the ERG does or doesn't do when we see consequences from the world burning up. Coorperation is what will be needed and no one is going to listen to the ERG saying 'uh this is a betrayal we voted to leave back in 2016'. Its peanuts.

lol that posh young self-identifying Blairite on ITV news from Penistone was a real piece of work.

Kirsty Wark doing her darnedest to persuade another Labour MP to resign.

lmao

"We look forward to him being annihilated by the Labour party candidate and being consigned to the dustbin of history where he belongs."

Chair of Luton South CLP - the HERO we don’t deserve 😍pic.twitter.com/vPsUt9QdgN

— “funny tinge” Patel🌹 (@CorbynistaTeen) February 18, 2019

those high-vis protester twats in Leeds need to fuck off + die quite soon please, and all the other ex-EDL twats taking on other forms. I read this quite nuanced piece on the French version which concluded it's a genuinely head-spinningly confusing mix of neo-fascists, conservative farmer type twats and lefties. The UK version however seems to be a much narrower church.

The quote I took from that piece was "I vote Tory, how am I far right?" Still let's talk some more about how anti-Semitic and racist the Labour Party are.

Flatcap guy is a dwarfist.

shit. cancelled

Lol no one is going to care on whatever agreement is passed through fucking Parliament, or what the ERG does or doesn't do when we see consequences from the world burning up. Coorperation is what will be needed and no one is going to listen to the ERG saying 'uh this is a betrayal we voted to leave back in 2016'. Its peanuts.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 9:22 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They will still be arguing about this item on newsnight long after the sea starts lapping around Kirsty Wark’s ankles.

https://goo.gl/images/pBfrmo

https://smtimes.ru/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/1-3.jpg

"stop! only red passports allowed!"

I think I missed the lol window but if a mod could insert a Tinge & Brexit placeholder for me in yesterday’s bantzstream, I’m still working on the pun

Was on a Monday morning the gapes-man came to call

I've seen some interesting takes in my time but "Brexit is not going to have any effect because everyone will have to unite to fix global warming" is a level of optimistic contortionism I'm almost envious of.

Mike...thank you for your service. pic.twitter.com/8vobOdIMbk

— Reel Politik podcast (@reel_politcast) February 18, 2019

this mornings news cycle has been depressing let’s have some memes instead

pic.twitter.com/1RFfLrDV7T

— Comité Howard Zinn de Verdad y Reconciliación (@ZinnTruther) February 18, 2019

had to laugh at phil collins (former blair bff) on ch4 news last night - as an outrider for the PFI group - saying that if they’re viewed as continuity_blairism they will fail

ummm

re: talk of safe seats, ann coffey has been stockport mp since 92 when she took it from the tories and is very popular personally so I think she has a shot at keeping her seat, although I guess she would vote in line with labour nearly all of the time

Listen. We've done the research on this. In key marginals, vague mid-90s third wayism proved slightly more favourable than the concept of an imminent apocalypse.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) February 19, 2019

I've seen some interesting takes in my time but "Brexit is not going to have any effect because everyone will have to unite to fix global warming" is a level of optimistic contortionism I'm almost envious of.

― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Choose your fear. Ed gets off on project fear (off we go to Victorian Times lol). Mine is just more realistic. Two billio deaths, that kind of thing.

we can probably have both.