Thread for Lydia Loveless, Country-Rock Lady I Enjoy

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Although of course their ban claim does quite not fit w her for five years

dow, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

it's pretty good! She's an interesting interview...some really great live footage

Maybe a bit long considering how relatively short her career is

also it's a bit awkward because at the time she's with her (a lot older) bass player and I think that divorce is a big part of the Real album? so it's a little outdated now

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 February 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

Would be no way to keep up with her, other than a day-to-day reality series. Yeah, even in email exchanges (for the featurette I posted way upthread), she was very forthcoming, without overselling or digressing---wish I'd had a little more room for quotes.

dow, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:55 (five years ago) link

Big ol' interview re the Bloodshot situation

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/lydia-loveless-interview-sexual-misconduct-bloodshot-796785/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link

a few women commented on her IG story that they'd has incidents with this guy as well, at least one of them said she'd been sexually assaulted by him.

omar little, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link

Her reasons for waiting are many, including how a woman’s claims of sexual abuse is often as traumatizing as the initial instances themselves. Also, because women are often told this is just “the way things are” in an industry built around casual social events, drinking and the myth of the eccentric male rock-star genius.

It's 2019 and people still believe this shit. I can see from the responses on Twitter that they do.

Twee.TV (I M Losted), Thursday, 21 February 2019 02:47 (five years ago) link

What exactly are you referring to as “this shit”?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 21 February 2019 03:29 (five years ago) link

"women are often told this is just “the way things are” in an industry built around casual social events, drinking and the myth of the eccentric male rock-star genius."

That's my (hopeful) guess.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 February 2019 04:58 (five years ago) link

Like, the immediate reaction I saw to the Ryan Adams revelations was a general "yeah, this dude is bad news" and "I'm glad this is coming out," but you only had to peel one layer deeper to find A LOT of people excusing all sorts of things.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 February 2019 05:00 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...
eleven months pass...

Sounds like she's close to wrapping up an album. Thank goodness, she's great.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

Yay! meanwhile:
@lydia_loveless
kicks this off:
From 2016: Indigo Girls, Wynonna & the Big Noise, Patty Larkin and Lydia Loveless on Mountain Stage (radio radi-oh, don't wait for the podcast post on Tues.) https://mountainstage.org/radio/Pages/ontheradio.aspx?ontheradioid=95

(Wynonna killin it too)

dow, Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

This is only ok, imo, but it's great to have a summer that finally sees the return of Loveless, Kathleen Edwards, Gillian Welch and heck, even the Dixie Chicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-cmPQ3BcnQ

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

I would agree it's not exceptional, but solid...feels like a side 2 album track.
that said, I love how she sings and the way she puts songs and lyrics together.
Really happy she's back.

Real grows in my estimation more and more as time passes.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

Saw her opening to tMG last year and enjoyed it very much, so I happily preordered this and will await results.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

yeah, excited to hear this album. SOMEWHERE ELSE is a classic, and REAL is great, too.

(that new album cover, though ... not great.)

alpine static, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

How do I unsee this album cover?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link

Real has slowly become my favorite

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

Taking pre-orders, her first self-release, Sept. 25 (she recently tweeted pic of a cake her friend made, with this cover art https://lydialoveless.bandcamp.com/album/daughter

dow, Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

New one's her best.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 September 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

oooh thanks!

Indexed, Monday, 21 September 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

i hope that's true but there's no way it's better than Somewhere Else

alpine static, Monday, 21 September 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

will report back if i am proven wrong

alpine static, Monday, 21 September 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

The title track is a particular stunner.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 September 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

oh so this is just a re-release of the Boy Crazy EP and a handful of singles & bsides? the Boy Crazy EP is indeed fantastic. not sure I'm familiar with these other tunes in the second half. Wouldn't really compare this to her proper albums (Somewhere Else is my favorite, too).

https://www.bloodshotrecords.com/album/boy-crazy-singles

Indexed, Monday, 21 September 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

No, it's a whole new album of originals:

https://lydialoveless.bandcamp.com/album/daughter

alpine static, Friday, 25 September 2020 04:00 (three years ago) link

lol I was so confused. Alfred way ahead as usual. Very excited for this one!

Indexed, Friday, 25 September 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

Yeah, and Boy Crazy + Single(s) is good too. Before I forget, the xpost doc is on nicely priced DVD (and Prime stream) here*, with lots of pleased purchaser reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/Lydia-Loveless-Who/dp/B074QVPDPQ/ref=sr_1_4?crid=34ORI9S6140VV&dchild=1&keywords=lydia+loveless&qid=1601053495&s=music&sprefix=Lydia+%2Cpopular%2C186&sr=1-4

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81WZHdqs81L._SL1200_.jpg

*(also a sep listing for vinyl soundtrack)

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

"September" is gorgeous

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 September 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

So the new one returns to her consistently Columbus-to-Chicago urban country jangle, though now all in the searching, introspective singer-songwriter mode, though certainly more concisely compressed, candidly judicious than most such albums; she's not letting fly like "Idiot Wind" and bridge-barn-burning Natalie Maines. She's past that, going deeper/further/along in this remarkably shitty, damaged and damaging time, having apparently broken with her mate and Bloodshot too:
In a second floor apartment
The heat does rise
It’s a sensory bombardment
Sweat and tears in your eyes

Well isn’t this what everybody does
Go out on their own
I was the one who wanted more
Now I’m just sitting at home

---but even the most developmental tracks, incl. the strongest ones, "Daughter"
There’s never been a better time to be alive
The arms of opportunity are spread wide
I wanna be a part of you but it’s not enough
If I gave you a daughter would you open up

Oh to be like Mary full of grace
You’d be worshipping my body and my brain
Cuz I know you never take me at my word
It’s always something you’ve already heard
Why can’t I show you this side of me
And prove to you who I could be

There’s never been a better time to be a wife
I wanna show you something you can’t memorize
---and the equally eerie finale, "Don't Bother Mountain," so far seem anchored tp Phil Collins-recalling drum atmospheres, though with her own deft production touches, and gray Morning After sources: no bad tracks, but I miss the headbanging sweat-it-out breakthroughs of yore---some wailing on "September," and her voice is strong, committed, all through, but overall effect so far a bit frustrating. I hope there will be more remixes.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

Words can be amazing, music not as much.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

It's all pretty slow, is what I mean.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

Too cautious.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

But I'll keep listening, prob get more involved in details, to some extent.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

"Never" -- fabulous.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 September 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the new one is really good.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 26 September 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link

This is the first year in ... years that I have not been able to keep up with all the good records I don't just think I need to hear but *want* to hear.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 September 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

My first impression based on yesterday's afternoon listen is that her voice is too mix forward or something and kind of overpowers the rest of everything in a not great way. It's like a wet blanket.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 September 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

First time through and agree with much of what's been said. I'm listening on shure iems and there are a few tunes, most notably "Can't Think," that sound super muddy beneath her vocals (somehow made even worse by some studio tricks in the last twenty seconds?). New producer/mixer appears to have done all the Jeff Tweedy associated production for the last decade, so surprised (https://www.allmusic.com/artist/tom-schick-mn0000934331). I thought the Bloodshot "sound" suited her well.

On the songwriting side, I like the second half more than the first. Side A has some downtempo tunes that lack the emotional gut punch of an "Everything's Gone." Side B has:
- "Never" - successful marriage of heartland rock and synth pop
- "When You're Gone" - really interesting structure without a clearly defined chorus (?) but still feels like a sing a long
- "September" - piano and cello ballad with some call and response help from Laura Jane Grace that works

Indexed, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

All that to say, very hard to imagine Somewhere Else ever being impeached as my favorite of hers.

Indexed, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

I will fall asleep and have fewer nightmares of death once I know that a Killer Psychiatrist is tucked away safely in a mental institution and led to believe he works there.

LL copes with late night-on-tour-to-quarantine anxieties via old faithful Lifetime:
https://www.nodepression.com/spotlight-lydia-loveless-on-leaning-into-lifetime-movies/?mc_cid=6035ce295f&mc_eid=b850f832a1

Might not have helped with the album though.

dow, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

Enjoyed your review Alfred

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

Just skimmed this thread enough to be intrigued and really liking her stuff so thanks all.

Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 00:51 (three years ago) link

Thank, ums!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

Yeah. Wish I heard it more that way, maybe eventually.

dow, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link

okay now I do, should have stood by, as the President requests, and listened some more before maiden post. Helps that I came back to it after bandcamp streaming Boots 02: The Lost Songs Vol.2, by Gillian Welch, who is much closer, or more obviously (to this simple male mind) close to being a full-time inhabitant of this guarded, weathered truck garden of love and regret, the one with no-frills flights on a leash (and both artists' current sets sport fine September ramblin' bridge songs), but now I get that Loveless is more confrontational, just as intimate, but in a clinch, noting the marks she's leaving and has and will leave---and though, no "headbanging sweatbox catharis" as I prev. missed these flights do achieve liftoff into that LL narrative momentum:
I can’t believe the worst kinds of people achieve
Everything they want
But it takes medication to get me off

So sick and tired of living in a rut

Love is not enough
I wonder if it ever was
I shouldn’t have to bleed you dry to fill me up

Not that she's letting him off the hook---ooo, always wanting her tp provide a little "sun," like,"Smile more often, " like the Bossman say---and the way she gets from opening with:
What is my body worth to you
Without your blood in it

to closing time:
If I gave you a daughter would you open up,
and all points in between, as ZZ Top would put it, via LL wide-awake dream logic, relentlessly articulate---is true grit poetry, LL as hell, incl. Loretta Lynn talking points.
And seems more like To Be Continued than total closer (she's tweeted something about pregnancy).
The music, as written, arranges and performed-inhabited, now carries me through the words much more than on first listen, and the last track's dark groove, pushing on falling back pushing on, also seems like something To Be Continued---still hoping for more remixes, for one thing.

dow, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Tangential to Loveless, but I had no idea the extent of this mess:

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/bloodshot-records-nan-warshaw-rob-miller-royalties-sale/Content?oid=84834310

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

ugh

Indexed, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

Forgot about all that for a little bit

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

Warshaw’s excuse for not doing anything about her partner’s harassment is pathetic.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Thursday, 10 December 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link


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