"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

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Yes if I didn't have to go out in a bit I'd be here all night shouting why haven't all of these ppl just pissed off.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 February 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link

To all those calling for the 7 MPs to hold by-elections now they’ve rejected this leadership’s hijacked version of Labour, this ⬇️⬇️⬇️ https://t.co/VpmwfCXlil

— Rachel Riley (@RachelRileyRR) February 18, 2019

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“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 February 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link

so apparently lols aside today's events have increased the chances of a snap election being called - according to S Bush. Surely they wouldn't let May lead them into another one!

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link

I just saw Watson's statement and it was good that both he and Corbyn paid more focus on Berger.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link

The break is too small for a snap election. Chances have increased...by 5%

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

*glances wearily at 'number of days since I knew what Tony Blair George Galloway thought about something' counter*

(he wants back in)

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link

he can fuck off and so can ken

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link

from https://www.politico.eu/article/theresa-may-sets-course-for-brexit-disaster-no-deal-withdrawal-treaty/

The minister from a major power said they were shocked to hear from a U.K. counterpart that London is apparently intent on dragging things out until March 21. At that point, May would bring a menu of three or four ideas for changing the backstop from which EU leaders would be invited to choose. If they reject all of them, she would blame EU intransigence for the ensuing chaos.

That's leadership!

It's astonishing to me that Brexit is still being played in the UK as domestic politics, a month+ away. My (French) research team had a meeting today with national research administrators showing us how no-deal Brexit will cut off all(-ish?) European research funds to UK universities immediately, and even if a deal is struck, the UK can only participate for another year in ERC funding. Surely the UK will make up for that loss of research funding...surely...sureLOLy...

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 18 February 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link

It's all been a fiendish plot by Corbz to get the election he's been banging on about.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 18 February 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link

TW is friends with Berger iirc (aren’t they both members of the infamous birthday party WhatsApp group?)

I don’t think GG is getting back in with Jon Lansman on the NEC.

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link

Gary Glitter?

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 18 February 2019 17:22 (five years ago) link

G G Ailing

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link

Couldn't be Gary Glitter, the Lib Dems are the Party For Paedos.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 18 February 2019 17:28 (five years ago) link

they didn’t want woodcock to join pmsl
https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/alexwickham/30-mps-labour-independent-group?__twitter_impression=true

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:33 (five years ago) link

The fundamental divide between the Labour splitters is over the new party that will emerge, the sources said. Several MPs including Chris Leslie and ringleader Chuka Umunna hope to be at the forefront of a new “centrist” party modelled on Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union and Emmanuel Macron’s En Marche.

ah yes, the centrist CDU

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 February 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link

en shart

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link

Excuse me "terf" is a slur. We prefer to be known as Trans Exclusionary Moderate Feminists"

— The Independent Group (@The_Indie_Group) February 18, 2019

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Monday, 18 February 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

just tinged my monitor

See me in mi heels an' tinge (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 February 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link

tinge benefritz

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Monday, 18 February 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link

Oh and by the way Honda's fucking off as well.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

Can't for the life of me imagine why no other Labour MPs volunteered to be cannon fodder.

Also they probably know that if you quit a party because of a man approaching his 70s at a particularly febrile and unstable period in history without a very good reason then you're an idiot. Also the right wing Labour MPs who stayed in and didn't join the SNP eventually won.

Also this:

NEW: 30 Labour MPs held talks about quitting the party in what was originally planned as a far more damaging assault on Jeremy Corbyn, but only 7 went ahead with the plan today amid chaotic disagreements over strategy, organisation and personalitieshttps://t.co/6NBClmCTme

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) February 18, 2019

Matt DC, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link

SNP or SDP?

also: it's an alex wickham joint stuffed w/anonymous quotes, which is his dubious speciality a bit :|

mark s, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:13 (five years ago) link

I don't think Mike Gapes has much of an eye on the 2020's/2030's long game tbf!

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

mind he is *only* 66 but only looks about two decades older than that, obv not a great mushroom falafel lover!

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link

I did indeed mean SDP not SNP.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

They did well to get Luciana Berger on board so they get at least some good press, otherwise this is so obviously the Chris & Chuka show.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 18 February 2019 18:55 (five years ago) link

im watching these ppl now on c4 news they seem like oily scum are they oily scum

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Monday, 18 February 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

Whats the gameplan for these? i dont understand if there is one or not

They must assume no election is coming because they'd all lose their seats (but idk, with likes of Chukka hubris may blind him to that?)

The idea is to smoke out some others, but why now a month ahead of brexit? Are they going to vote for May's deal due to fears of no deal? The anti-brexit parties first action to vote for a brexit deal?

I understand how they got here but what do they do now?

anvil, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link

Are any of these popular in their constituencies?

anvil, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link

Given that one of their criticisms of Corbyn is that he's 'enabling a Tory Brexit', they are unlikely to be supporting May's deal. Other than preventing a Corbyn led Labour Party winning a General Election, I've no idea what their gameplan is.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 18 February 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link

all of these people speak like scared children

and if kgm interrupted a proper politician like that hed be eating the fucking mic

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Monday, 18 February 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link

Enabling a Tory Brexit is shit but taking attention away from the government’s failings & impending crashout is infinitely shittier. Gavin Williamson must be laughing with his tarantula today.

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link

Smith's racist comments will have pleased some of the Penistonian inbreds earlier, but her brexit stance will alienate others.

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:22 (five years ago) link

Racism for some, miniature European flags for others.

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link

as napoleon said, never, or was it always? interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake. in any case, it is with heavy heart that i etc club etc club

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 February 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link

I bet Chuka is secretly harbouring wet dreams of replicating Macron's walk down the Champs Elysee, or wherever it was, on winning the French Presidential Election.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 18 February 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link

Chuka thinks of himself as Obama, not Macron.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chuka-umunnas-british-obama-wikipedia-entry-came-from-his-former-office-8569083.html

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/apr/19/nick-clegg-obama

lol the graun haven't deleted this from their archive out of pure embarrassment yet.

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:34 (five years ago) link

Is Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg an Obama-style hero for our times, a Churchillian leader or a popular rebel in the mould of Che Guevara? Perhaps he's just another great British underdog

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link

I understand that the main aim is to stop a Labour government, thats been clear for years, but that doesn't answer the question of how this actually helps them. I can't really see any interest in policy of any kind, seems to be more about the leader (presumably once Corbyn is replaced anti-semitism will disappear with him and they can rejoin?)

They have a lot to lose from any upcoming election, which must be a real risk given the landscape

anvil, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link

lol thx to the gdn's weird page furniture choices i thought the nick-clegg-is-obama piece was actually BY nick clegg

mark s, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link

My pleasure. https://t.co/NmNwRsRzFc

— John Prescott (@johnprescott) February 18, 2019

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

class

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 19:55 (five years ago) link

I for one am extremely happy that we're back in another era of ears-to-the-door kremlinology and bullshit briefings around PLP meetings. how delightfully retro

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link

Also they probably know that if you quit a party because of a man approaching his 70s at a particularly febrile and unstable period in history without a very good reason then you're an idiot.

I know a few of us are counting the days and all but Corbyn has shown pretty good durability so far. Besides there is a high chance of the next leader coming from the left which would mean reduced career opportunities for these MPs deciding to stay and I wouldn't say that the people who stay are going to win, history doesn't automatically repeat itself and the conditions for what they might call a win just aren't there.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 February 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link

The next leader is extremely likely to come from the left but it's also basically a cert that they will be pro-European, which removes at least one plank of objection. For all we know they won't be under immediate siege from within their own party and as a result more likely to reach out to a wider pool of MPs - whatever the make-up of the PLP is after the next election.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 February 2019 21:23 (five years ago) link

good job this shower of clowns is the main story today and not the Fox Hunt tag team fucking up trade deal talks with Japan + angering them with their "high handed" talk and obvious desperation.

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 21:25 (five years ago) link

Not sure about that. I can see a lot of MPs that I thought might make the jump today would have problems with a left programme (building more council housing or bringing in nationalisation etc., higher taxes for the rich), so I think the membership and momentum will be constantly on their case. And I am guessing by the time Corbyn is done a lot of the questions around Europe might be settled as well. But yes its likely the next leader will be more imperialist. xp

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 February 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link

Inspired by #LabourSplit, I am resigning from the Dept. of Politics @ Concrete Hope to form a new Independent Academic Network (membership =me); this is not a new Dept. but could develop into one. For now I remain in my office but won’t be obeying orders to teach or see students.

— Prof. Brit Pol (@ProfBritPol_PhD) February 18, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 February 2019 21:39 (five years ago) link


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