Thread for Lydia Loveless, Country-Rock Lady I Enjoy

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I thought Rob's response was pretty good.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 February 2019 14:10 (five years ago) link

Nan's response...

https://www.facebook.com/BloodshotRecords/posts/10156149628338193

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link

It’s so weird that she’s acknowledging the truth of the matter but standing by her man nonetheless.

I wonder if Lydia Loveless was one of their minor artists how this would have been addressed. Obviously LL was stewing over this bc they didn’t do anything and she had the clout now.

omar little, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

yeah the Rob one is good, the Nan one is o_O

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 February 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

It’s so weird that she’s acknowledging the truth of the matter but standing by her man nonetheless.


This is called life, you generally don’t cancel the people you love

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 18 February 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

dang mind blown

omar little, Monday, 18 February 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

To her credit, Nan didn't heart his tweet

http://i.imgur.com/nZ0Kyee.png

mick signals, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

him being a creep who harassed a musician on her label, jeopardized that creative relationship, at present has caused that label to take a hit image-wise, and has led to her stepping away from the label...that all seems like grounds for a breakup but again if she wants to stick with him she’s free to do so, as weird as I may find it.

omar little, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

I know nothing about their relationship but I do know sometimes it's hard to leave a toxic victimizer, even when it's self-evidently in your own best interest.

mick signals, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:18 (five years ago) link

Yeah, there is a whole emotional ecosystem in which these things take place from which it may be difficult to withdraw

Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 February 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

yeah obv it's a tough situation, it's a bit unusual to see it play out like this, and it's pretty sad.

omar little, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link

off topic, Real has grown and grown on me, I think it's her best album

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 February 2019 18:42 (five years ago) link

i picked up that one and Boy Crazy and Singles, both are outstanding. Her documentary is on Amazon Prime right now, been meaning to watch it.

omar little, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:44 (five years ago) link

xxpost Miller and Warshaw both say he was banned from "Bloodshot events" and contact w the artists, that they didn't make a public announcement when Loveless first reported the behavior because "respecting her privacy" until she wanted to go public---so at least they've got their story straight. And Warshaw "stepping away," rather than going after Loveless, sounds about right, from this outsider's point of view.

dow, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:45 (five years ago) link

So back to the music and thanks for mention of documentary, hadn't heard of that.

dow, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link

Although of course their ban claim does quite not fit w her for five years

dow, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

it's pretty good! She's an interesting interview...some really great live footage

Maybe a bit long considering how relatively short her career is

also it's a bit awkward because at the time she's with her (a lot older) bass player and I think that divorce is a big part of the Real album? so it's a little outdated now

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 February 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

Would be no way to keep up with her, other than a day-to-day reality series. Yeah, even in email exchanges (for the featurette I posted way upthread), she was very forthcoming, without overselling or digressing---wish I'd had a little more room for quotes.

dow, Monday, 18 February 2019 18:55 (five years ago) link

Big ol' interview re the Bloodshot situation

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/lydia-loveless-interview-sexual-misconduct-bloodshot-796785/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link

a few women commented on her IG story that they'd has incidents with this guy as well, at least one of them said she'd been sexually assaulted by him.

omar little, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link

Her reasons for waiting are many, including how a woman’s claims of sexual abuse is often as traumatizing as the initial instances themselves. Also, because women are often told this is just “the way things are” in an industry built around casual social events, drinking and the myth of the eccentric male rock-star genius.

It's 2019 and people still believe this shit. I can see from the responses on Twitter that they do.

Twee.TV (I M Losted), Thursday, 21 February 2019 02:47 (five years ago) link

What exactly are you referring to as “this shit”?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 21 February 2019 03:29 (five years ago) link

"women are often told this is just “the way things are” in an industry built around casual social events, drinking and the myth of the eccentric male rock-star genius."

That's my (hopeful) guess.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 February 2019 04:58 (five years ago) link

Like, the immediate reaction I saw to the Ryan Adams revelations was a general "yeah, this dude is bad news" and "I'm glad this is coming out," but you only had to peel one layer deeper to find A LOT of people excusing all sorts of things.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 February 2019 05:00 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...
eleven months pass...

Sounds like she's close to wrapping up an album. Thank goodness, she's great.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

Yay! meanwhile:
@lydia_loveless
kicks this off:
From 2016: Indigo Girls, Wynonna & the Big Noise, Patty Larkin and Lydia Loveless on Mountain Stage (radio radi-oh, don't wait for the podcast post on Tues.) https://mountainstage.org/radio/Pages/ontheradio.aspx?ontheradioid=95

(Wynonna killin it too)

dow, Saturday, 6 June 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

This is only ok, imo, but it's great to have a summer that finally sees the return of Loveless, Kathleen Edwards, Gillian Welch and heck, even the Dixie Chicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-cmPQ3BcnQ

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

I would agree it's not exceptional, but solid...feels like a side 2 album track.
that said, I love how she sings and the way she puts songs and lyrics together.
Really happy she's back.

Real grows in my estimation more and more as time passes.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

Saw her opening to tMG last year and enjoyed it very much, so I happily preordered this and will await results.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

yeah, excited to hear this album. SOMEWHERE ELSE is a classic, and REAL is great, too.

(that new album cover, though ... not great.)

alpine static, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

How do I unsee this album cover?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link

Real has slowly become my favorite

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

Taking pre-orders, her first self-release, Sept. 25 (she recently tweeted pic of a cake her friend made, with this cover art https://lydialoveless.bandcamp.com/album/daughter

dow, Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

New one's her best.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 September 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

oooh thanks!

Indexed, Monday, 21 September 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

i hope that's true but there's no way it's better than Somewhere Else

alpine static, Monday, 21 September 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

will report back if i am proven wrong

alpine static, Monday, 21 September 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

The title track is a particular stunner.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 September 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

oh so this is just a re-release of the Boy Crazy EP and a handful of singles & bsides? the Boy Crazy EP is indeed fantastic. not sure I'm familiar with these other tunes in the second half. Wouldn't really compare this to her proper albums (Somewhere Else is my favorite, too).

https://www.bloodshotrecords.com/album/boy-crazy-singles

Indexed, Monday, 21 September 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

No, it's a whole new album of originals:

https://lydialoveless.bandcamp.com/album/daughter

alpine static, Friday, 25 September 2020 04:00 (three years ago) link

lol I was so confused. Alfred way ahead as usual. Very excited for this one!

Indexed, Friday, 25 September 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

Yeah, and Boy Crazy + Single(s) is good too. Before I forget, the xpost doc is on nicely priced DVD (and Prime stream) here*, with lots of pleased purchaser reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/Lydia-Loveless-Who/dp/B074QVPDPQ/ref=sr_1_4?crid=34ORI9S6140VV&dchild=1&keywords=lydia+loveless&qid=1601053495&s=music&sprefix=Lydia+%2Cpopular%2C186&sr=1-4

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81WZHdqs81L._SL1200_.jpg

*(also a sep listing for vinyl soundtrack)

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

"September" is gorgeous

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 September 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

So the new one returns to her consistently Columbus-to-Chicago urban country jangle, though now all in the searching, introspective singer-songwriter mode, though certainly more concisely compressed, candidly judicious than most such albums; she's not letting fly like "Idiot Wind" and bridge-barn-burning Natalie Maines. She's past that, going deeper/further/along in this remarkably shitty, damaged and damaging time, having apparently broken with her mate and Bloodshot too:
In a second floor apartment
The heat does rise
It’s a sensory bombardment
Sweat and tears in your eyes

Well isn’t this what everybody does
Go out on their own
I was the one who wanted more
Now I’m just sitting at home

---but even the most developmental tracks, incl. the strongest ones, "Daughter"
There’s never been a better time to be alive
The arms of opportunity are spread wide
I wanna be a part of you but it’s not enough
If I gave you a daughter would you open up

Oh to be like Mary full of grace
You’d be worshipping my body and my brain
Cuz I know you never take me at my word
It’s always something you’ve already heard
Why can’t I show you this side of me
And prove to you who I could be

There’s never been a better time to be a wife
I wanna show you something you can’t memorize
---and the equally eerie finale, "Don't Bother Mountain," so far seem anchored tp Phil Collins-recalling drum atmospheres, though with her own deft production touches, and gray Morning After sources: no bad tracks, but I miss the headbanging sweat-it-out breakthroughs of yore---some wailing on "September," and her voice is strong, committed, all through, but overall effect so far a bit frustrating. I hope there will be more remixes.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

Words can be amazing, music not as much.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

It's all pretty slow, is what I mean.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

Too cautious.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

But I'll keep listening, prob get more involved in details, to some extent.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

"Never" -- fabulous.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 September 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link


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