Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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okay, so maybe Andrew is right

sarahell, Thursday, 14 February 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link

xxp I mean, my opinions are my opinions, not anyone else's..

But also, how?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 14 February 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link

I crave to work and to receive immediate clear feedback from that work. Furthermore, I want the product of my work to be enjoyable and depend almost entirely on my own performance. Cooking is a way to satisfy this craving while also making a product that can be shared with the family. I probably wouldn't have the craving if I had a different job.

say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 14 February 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link

also, I like holding ladderscooking dinner. It takes me out of myself.

say it with sausages (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 14 February 2019 19:20 (five years ago) link

Eating food is enjoyable nearly all of the time!

I have a friend who isn't that adventurous when it comes to food selection and tends to pick things that very much fall into a stereotypical kid-like selection: chicken strips, pizza, etc.

it finally, after way too many years, dawned on me over the weekend that part of this is a sensory issue thing. the first clue was his professed dislike of soup, and witnessing him grimacing and kind of powering through a sandwich after cringing at the texture of one of the toppings made it more clear. it's not necessarily flavors, it's textures and consistency and some foods really do bother him when he eats them

I think there's actually a link between the personality and mentalities that SV culture appeals to and an actual dislike of the act of eating. I'm trying to be generous here because there's enough "oh, all the software developers/weird VC guys are on the spectrum" talk and it's gross to frame it that way, but I really think a significant number of these people actually find the sensory experience of eating some foods to be overwhelming

mh, Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link

i wonder how much is whether they raised eating foods like that growing up (basically pandered to) or if they just got smaller portions of adult food. I still have trouble understanding why (except for like, in infancy) kids are fed differently than adults.

sarahell, Friday, 15 February 2019 05:06 (five years ago) link

hmmm. I'm not sure that "not enjoyable" maps very well to "bullshit".

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 15 February 2019 05:08 (five years ago) link

btw, I often enjoy cooking or food shopping. they are a low-stress activities with usually enjoyable results, which stands in stark contrast to my all-too-frequent high stress activities that have nothing remotely enjoyable about them.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 15 February 2019 05:15 (five years ago) link

Aimless, my friend who works for Salesforce feels the same way

sarahell, Friday, 15 February 2019 20:15 (five years ago) link

For his birthday party in December, he made this really amazing smoked mackerel

sarahell, Friday, 15 February 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link

Meanwhile:

โ€œShe was going to herald a revolution in medical treatment in this country.โ€

From Academy Award-winning director @alexgibneyfilm, #TheInventor: Out For Blood In Silicon Valley premieres March 18 at 9PM on @HBO. pic.twitter.com/8hpnWMS7Zd

— HBO Documentaries (@HBODocs) February 15, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 February 2019 22:12 (five years ago) link

I've not seen much video footage of her - is the above stuff all from before or after the scam was outed (so to speak)? She looks shifty as hell in every shot!

kinder, Friday, 15 February 2019 22:40 (five years ago) link

Must be from before. Errol Morris did a whole puff piece promotional thing on her, and I'm guessing a lot of the footage comes from that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 February 2019 22:48 (five years ago) link

shiftiness reads as DISRUPTIVE to minds poisoned by silicon valley cult-of-ceo bullshit iirc

a surprise challenge that ended with a gunging (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 15 February 2019 22:49 (five years ago) link

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/researchers-scared-by-their-own-work-hold-back-deepfakes-for-text-ai/

well, as long as this technology is only in the hands of trustworthy people like, er, peter thiel and elon musk

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Saturday, 16 February 2019 00:53 (five years ago) link

At the end, Theranos was overrun by a dog defecating in the boardroom, nearly a dozen law firms on retainer, and a C.E.O. grinning through her teeth about an implausible turnaround.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/inside-elizabeth-holmess-final-months-at-theranos

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 February 2019 15:12 (five years ago) link

update to my last post here:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/twenty-minutes-into-the-future-with-openais-deep-fake-text-ai/

well i can see why the researchers were so terrified! GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT-GOAT

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Wednesday, 27 February 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link

https://twitter.com/juliacarriew/status/1104944041400004608

hadn't thought of this. VCs are so unbelievably weird.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Monday, 11 March 2019 03:39 (five years ago) link

that is a definite angle! people who think you need constant blood tests because you could, and itโ€™d be useful

thatโ€™s the high-end money pitch, though. the mass market pitch that they were making was quick blood testing at walgreens or the battlefield and it was a value pitch. no time paying someone to take a blood sample large enough to test that would take a real phlebotomist, no analyst time that took lab shipping. the ability to sit someone in front of a machine and have a teledoc do instant prescription. instant flow from machine to prescription is the profit, nobody having to do the work of touching and talking to a patient

mh, Monday, 11 March 2019 05:01 (five years ago) link

I mean, for people with low insurance coverage itโ€™s a quick up sell โ€” pay for a blood scan and weโ€™ll give you drugs to fix what may ail you, or optimistically, send you to the right doctor immediately so youโ€™re not stumbling through appointments, and all from a quick scan

the scale factor is that the afflictions treatable from a quick blood scan would be at a larger initial audience and itโ€™d make the weekly scanners who are going to be told to eat one more salad the subsidizers of the system but it was still insanely dumb because blood tests donโ€™t work like that

mh, Monday, 11 March 2019 05:10 (five years ago) link

Thousands of New Millionaires Are About to Eat San Francisco Alive

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/07/style/uber-ipo-san-francisco-rich.html

One recent night, in a packed room with a view of the Bay Bridge and an open bar, real estate investors gathered. Standing at the front presenting was Deniz Kahramaner, a real estate agent specializing in data analytics at Compass.

โ€œAre we going to see a one-bedroom condo thatโ€™s worth less than $1 million in five years?โ€ he asked the crowd. โ€œAre we going to see single family homes selling for one to three million?โ€

No, he said, not anymore. The energy rose as he revealed more data about new millionaires and about just how few new units have been built for them. San Francisco single-family home sale prices could climb to an average of $5 million, he said, to gasps.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 11 March 2019 11:30 (five years ago) link

Theranos-wise, I don't think that "this used to be some hassle and now it's no hassle" is a bad pitch, ever - there was a dedicated Weights & Measures building down the street from my house, where people would bring in things to weigh, and now there's kitchen scales.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 11 March 2019 12:15 (five years ago) link

crucial difference there is that kitchen scales actually do what they're supposed to

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 March 2019 12:26 (five years ago) link

Sure, but that never matters to the pitch, right?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 11 March 2019 13:05 (five years ago) link

As a hypochondriac I do like the idea of running a Star Trek style tricorder over myself at regular intervals instead of worrying about mystery bodily symptoms and then not daring to go to the doctor because it usually sounds silly (plus I am fat so the answer to all mystery symptoms is "you should lose weight, eat better, exercise more" which tbf is certainly true anyway)

however, jabbing myself with anything ever or having anything to do with Theranos-level messianic quacks, not so much

(NB why yes, I would still worry in a different unhealthy way if I had this magical device, but hey, it would bleep and have flashy lights and offer the brief illusion of control)

a passing spacecadet, Monday, 11 March 2019 13:35 (five years ago) link

lmao otm

Men hate vocal fry so much that they gave Elizabeth Holmes 400 million dollars

— Emma (@Merman_Melville) March 19, 2019

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

lol

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:58 (five years ago) link

see also

elizabeth holmes on a rollercoaster carefully screaming in a baritone

— Sarah Lazarus (@sarahclazarus) March 19, 2019

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 02:09 (five years ago) link

i_remember_nothing.mp3

โ…‹ (crรผt), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 02:47 (five years ago) link

do I have to resubscribe to HBO to see this? dark internet is striking out

akm, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 03:01 (five years ago) link

i just bought a ticket from burbank to oakland on https://www.jetsuitex.com/. afaict it's uberx for private jets. you pull up to a private hangar at a regular airport. my ticket was $20 more than the flight at the same time on southwest. VC-subsidized transit. boy, i don't know.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:25 (five years ago) link

Wagering that you will spend more money on VC-subsidized ground transport than on your air transport for this trip.

Also wagering that you will spend more time on the ground getting from Oakland to your destination than you will from BUR-OAK.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link

gonna get a car to the bart station and it's a back street hangar so hoping for no traffic but yeah, it's not really great if you aren't the kind of person who likes driving to airports.

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:36 (five years ago) link

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/03/20/business/00strut1/merlin_151953237_6cd2da47-4b11-4d9f-8d48-b8e7b4a54e0b-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp
Rick Heitzmann, a partner at FirstMark Capital, which has invested in Pinterest and Airbnb, said it was time to โ€œtell our story.โ€

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Sunday, 24 March 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link

absolute hero imo

Man stole https://boingboing.net/2019/03/24/evaldas-rimasauskas.html?fbclid=IwAR0zPBGWxFPt3EWa9chp9eQdVhsjJJ8KNpshFUe2n2qPwj9EOeRa3m_hwDQ22m from Facebook and Google by sending them random bills, which the companies dutifully paid

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link

as much a hero as anybody who commits corporate fraud, i guess

the scientology of mountains (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 March 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link

that's fucking balllllller

shoulda zagged (esby), Sunday, 24 March 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link

ok finally found the theranos doc. was good but well over long and a bit unsatisfying since the story itself isn't over.

akm, Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:21 (five years ago) link

it had enough content not in the book to be interesting on its own

the emotional reaction of the fortune magazine (lol) reporter pausing and eventually choking out the word โ€œhorseshitโ€ was great

mh, Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link

holy shit at that boingboing link. ?!????

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 March 2019 00:14 (five years ago) link

Dude I would settle for defrauding Facebook for like 100 grand

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 25 March 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link

fake invoices. that's all. that is GOOD MONEY. ffs. that's like... think of the number of people that money has touched, the lives wrapped up in it. you know tons of it is still squirrelled away. either transformed into other enterprises, or property registered through interlocking shell companies, not to mention all the more personally grubby behaviour it's probably enabled

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 March 2019 00:21 (five years ago) link

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/04/googles-constant-product-shutdowns-are-damaging-its-brand/

amadeo makes some good points here

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Don't know why I went into the comments on that article but I did and even though I generally expect the worst I never expected this kind of thing:

Or maybe women aren't the ideological monolith that you seem to think they are? My wife is going into STEM (she's majoring in web design) but she's opposed to women's suffrage (meanwhile I'm not).

silverfish, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

I'm going to charitably assume that this person doesn't know what "women's suffrage" means.

jmm, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

women's sufferation

Neil S, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

found the followup post after much wtf-like reactions to that post:

Correct, I don't see why that's so baffling though? Back when suffrage was gained it's likely that the majority of women didn't even want it at the time: https://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/05/did ... -the-vote/

That's certainly changed since, but there are still plenty of women (my wife being one) who believe that women as a whole vote in ways detrimental to society.

silverfish, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link


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