Hollow Knight

it's a whole new game(!!!) not just DLC, apparently http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2019/02/14/hollow-knight-is-getting-a-full-sequel

FUCK ME UP

SO PRETTY.

Live that her moveset seems to be pretty intact, too!

I beat Zote v2, and started on the White Palace! I expected it to be more rage inducing, but then I’ve only lit two of the lanterns.

I totally stalled out on HK, but I'm excited at the prospect of a new game

This game makes me sad because I could never beat the first hornet and I was loving the game up to the point.

Illl buy this obvs

I did manage to beat Hornet, though I gave up on this game toward the end when all my options narrowed to: fight another boss.

My not-a-real-gamer hope is that they offer different difficulty levels this time--I don't really get denying the Chucks of the world the chance to experience the game in full because they couldn't get past one arbitrary checkpoint. But all I want is more levels to explore, so I will also buy this obvs.

I like the setup in Mario Odyssey, where if you're crap at beating a boss, after a few turns an NPC turns up to give you free hearts.

I probably would've managed the boss fight eventually, but I lost patience with all the preamble (after every fight resurrection you have to wander off for ten minutes to collect hearts before fighting).

I finished the White Palace yesterday! It was strangely not as hard our frustrating as I was expecting? Or maybe I've gotten good at the game? (Probably not, I wasn't terribly close to beating Zote 4.)

I've put 60 hours (and counting) into this game! (103% game completion, I think.)

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I'm currently trying to beat the true boss -- anyone else have luck/advice? Incidentally, I love the design: you go into the dream, strike a cool pose, then the screen goes blank except for the name of the boss. Team Cherry's design sense is so beautiful.

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I beat The Radiance last night (60 hours, 102%). This really is one of my favorite games of all time. Even though it got really unnecessarily hard at times, I love pretty much everything about it.

So very reassuring to read this thread and realize that the consensus is that the plot is pretty impenetrable.

Managed to mostly avoid spoilers before I caved and looked up all the stuff I was struggling with towards the end and was relieved to realize that it was either stuff that I was never, ever going to figure out (how to open the lifeblood door on the way down to the Abyss) or stuff that wasn't really worth doing.

Now I have to convince myself not to start buying Hollow Knight merch.

I love how instantly iconic Hollow Knight has become, just the design alone.

If you're into collectibles: https://www.fangamer.com/collections/hollow-knight/products/hollow-knight-switch-ps4-pc-collectors-edition-game

I still think about this game a lot, just the mood and style of it. Can't wait for the sequel.

Man, this Hornet is really really really really hard for a second level Boss

― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 1 September 2018 14:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

Beat the hornet!!!!! In just NINE MONTHS.

Fourth level boss to complete by 2021, I reckon

I don’t know what happened to me, but some SM3, and some Celeste, and nine months later I seem to be um much better at video games?

SMB3 is core platform video game training imo

SMB3 is too fucked up for my baby mind and I cleared a lot of Celeste B sides

I watched a couple of minutes of one of those E3 Silksong playthroughs, and given how the visuals and sound and music made me feel, it really made me consider that Hollow Knight could be my favorite game of all time.

Didn't notice, but apparently there was a big interview with the Team Cherry people at the end of December. No "Silksong" release date, but as I understand it they claimed to be almost done. Also hinted at a totally unrelated game they may have in the pipes. It's kind of remarkable how quiet they've been about "Silksong," but on the other hand it's a nice respite from relentless hype. I'd rather they take their time and get it right than overpromise and underdeliver or, worse, rush a release (though they're clearly not running the risk of the latter at this point, lol).

I just hope they had second thoughts about every single jump being slightly out of reach, requiring the new mechanic of grabbing onto the edge of the platform you're trying to reach and pulling yourself up that was present in the preview they showed a few years back. That didn't look very fun...

Radio silence for "Silksong" remains. First announced back in February 2019 but probably started well before that, there's been basically nothing since that announcement trailer three years ago. Hmm.

Yeah I watched that whole Geoff Keighley thing yesterday in hopes of hearing something about Silksong, but nope. Apparently the pandemic hit development extra hard on this one. Still, maybe something will turn up in the coming weeks.

Speak of the devil

https://kotaku.com/hollow-knight-silksong-xbox-game-pass-team-cherry-gamep-1849051064

I sat down to watch Giant Bomb talk over the Xbox thing yesterday, and I actually *screamed* when I saw the Silksong announcement. And I never even *beat* Hollow Knight, I'm such a poser

I never beat it after the first ending, iirc, when the difficulty spikes to perverse levels (buzzsaws and boss rushes!), but I had so much fun with the game I may just play it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_lMn6nalqM

video games are hard to make dude

If that were true, then why are there so many of them?

🤔

Eh

I mean, I’ll buy it but I can wait

This video is pretty jerky

Heh, I agree it's pretty lame. The lack of updates from Team Cherry has been equally mysterious and maddening, though, so I took it as more funny than frustrated. Personally, I kind of admire TC's restraint/radio-silence for going on four years without more than the barest of teases. The last glimpse of gameplay was ... three years ago? Is that right?

60 hours in, i’m probably almost done right? still have at least 10 charms to collect. right now the plan is to finally beat this third colosseum challenge and then go fight the final boss.

loved the experience tho, this game is really impressively deep

I don't know/remember where you are at, exactly, but I believe there is a bit more to do ...

I recommended this to a friend that likes Metroid and Castlevania and generally all points in between, but he found it too oppressively lonely to get into. I don't think he made it far at all, though, so I should pressure him to try again or follow a guide or something.

I loved almost everything about this game, but still ended up bailing after a few (?) bosses due to all the backtracking, getting lost and not knowing where I hadn't been and where I should go, etc.

Yeah I got stuck in the maze after two bosses, but fun while it lasted

I’d love to start from scratch again but there’s no point starting another big game when Zeldas out soon

For a first level boss Hornet was freaking hard a fuck

*er, as fuck

Ori: Will of the Wisps scratched all of the itches of a Metroidvania for me. Hollow Knight felt too monochrome, convoluted, and overly challenging for me and I stopped playing it after about 5-8 hours in. Loved the style, atmosphere and mysteriousness of it, though.

Both Oris are beautiful (in every sense). HK is pretty bleak, though nonetheless pretty cute in its own way.

I think I’m gonna play HK right now. Good plan!

Kind of having my mind boggled that people are calling HK monochrome and too hard when they also play From games.

I loved the bosses and the aesthetic, it was really just the way finding. I think I'm over the Metroidvania thing, it would just stress me out to go past all these areas that were obviously inaccessible until I got some upgrade, then would have to find them all again.

Feels very different from the "aha!" moment you get in a From game when you find the shortcut in a winding level and realize how everything connects.

Just got this game. Died to the first boss

But also I'm playing Ori and they feel quite similar?

I also got stuck/lost and bailed a few hours in. People do love it, but it never really clicked with me. Which is odd cuz I like From games and metroidvania stuff generally. Maybe I’ll give it another spin sometime down the line.

I don’t recall how the map and navigation system works exactly but yeah, I think that was part of what kind of threw the wrench into the works for me.

felt like the first few map areas took me forever to get through but then once i reached the city of tears, the game totally opened up for me. i started navigating and conquering the areas in much shorter times. there is very little hand-holding tho, and it's not always clear where to go (took me forever to find the kingdom's edge smh)

i still haven't mastered the nail arts (rarely use them, prob should use em more), but i've definitely progressed a lot. now i can just demolish that soul warrior guy who it took me something like two hours to beat when i first encountered him in the soul asylum lol

Reportedly Team Cherry quietly changed the "Silksong" domain, which means 6 more weeks of winter.

Been revisiting this in anticipation of whenever Silksong decides to appear. About 15 hours in, just finished Deepnest & Herrah. Is it an unpopular opinion to say this game is maybe *too* big? On my first playthrough, I clocked close to 40 hours and never even finished it, because I just burned out after a while. It makes me wonder if Silksong is going to be even more sprawling, and IDK if I have the stamina for that.

Also I learned recently that there is now a fan-made full voice acting mod, which I just do not understand at all. The gibberish voices are already perfect! I can *kinda* get it from an accessibility standpoint, but from an aesthetic standpoint...meh