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Soundgarden are a great band with no front-to-back great albums. (Ultramega OK and Badmotorfinger come closest, to me.)

Can somebody fill me in on the "controp" thing? What does it mean? Is it just cool to keep me guessing?

controp = controversial opinion

There is an actual code to Pearl Jam's No Code - however ambiguous or amorphous it may be.. there's a definite code that it adheres to.

Thank you for clearing that up!

challop > controp

Jay-Z would've experienced more (even more) success (album sales, fame, valuable stock, etc.) if he had more Russell Crowe feature spots/ cameos on his tracks. -Controp or non- controp?

The best ever Nirvana album was named "Two of Us" and was released in 1968.

The song "Jessie" by Paw is not about an actual dog named Jessie, it's about having an ideal best friend who'll know when to lay off, or when to let go (to not get fixated on trivial things)

The song "Black Shampoo" by Wu-tang clan was filmed in an actual The Body Shop store, in Westfarms mall (West Hartford, CT) in 1996. U-God "Golden Arms" delivered his verses while soaking his feet in hot, bubbling water (in a hot tub filled w/heated Poland Spring water and Epsom salt) - in a mobile hot tub on top of a parade float - it was towed by a Ram pickup truck.

The song "Jessie" by Paw is not about an actual dog named Jessie, it's about having an ideal best friend who'll know when to lay off, or when to let go (to not get fixated on trivial things)

Haha, success

Yeah that's a deep dive. Often wondered how that band got signed.

Arab Strap are more fun to listen to than Belle and Sebastian. Arab Strap's music has more resonance (physically and emotionally) than that of Belle & Sebastian.

Arab Strap are shite. Belle & Sebastian are worse.

they toured Australia a couple of years after Jessie, and the posters had "JESSIE YOU'RE A GOOD DOG SUCH A GOOD DOG" in large caps, laid over the out of focus band photo

"Often wondered how that band got signed."

ts: ass-wiping vs. ball-polishing

There is only one where failing to do it will make nobody want to be around you

I loved Paw back in the day. Great live band.

Paw's Dragline was one of my 8 free CDs from Columbia House back in the day, that's the main thing I remember about it.

listening to Paw's Dragline right now and buffing Kim Thayil's scrote, sounds p good tbh

Kim Thayil's scrote can actually melt steel beams

Death to Traitors is great too.

I listened to Dragline this morning for the first time in decades. Felt pretty much the same about it as I did back then: The guitar-work is great - there are some really catchy and beautiful guitar lines. The lyrics are embarrassing in a way that's hard to put a finger on. Maybe a just a bit too plain-spoken, earnest/confessional... I don't know. The vocalist sounds like they dragged him into the studio right off of a combine. The album loses steam after the first few songs and I really didn't remember any of the later songs. I decided I really didn't want to listen to the lyrics to "Lolita" at all. Still a fun trip down memory lane.

After listening to that I got to thinking about other albums of that era. My potentially controversial opinion is that Brad's "Shame" was one of the best grunge adjacent albums of that era.

I'd co-sign that. Shawn Smith's voice is a beautiful thing.

The first Satchel record, too.

I remember really disliking Paw but also kind of confusing them with Seven Mary Three (who I also didn't like). I did like that Brad record a lot at the time though but sold it decades ago and haven't heard it since.

Dragline, Churn, and Shame all have basically the same 90s-as-fuck covers though.

my weed dealer's fav band was Brad i should investigate again

Scott Walker has better songs than Bowie.

that's more of a yawn-troversial opinion

Dad humor. Of course.

y'know what?
y'know what?
FUCK Led Zeppelin

i totally would

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When I was in high school and very into Coltrane, I saw Pharaoh Sanders at a music festival without knowing his music too well although knowing he had played with Coltrane. I couldn't get past my impression of him as a faker, and that has stuck with me to date even though some of his music is ok. The contrast between his showboaty spiritual schtick and Coltrane's introspection still bothers me.

it took me some time to appreciate john coltrane. i never understood the appeal of "a love supreme". so repetitive, so uninspired, so boring. a waste of listening time. but then i heard ascension and meditation and i was overwhelmed by the energy and intensity. fabulous stuff. pharoah sanders music i have liked from the beginning. to me his music emanates spirituality. fake or not fake is not a question i ask myself in this context.

When I was in high school ... I saw Pharaoh Sanders at a music festival

assuming we are around the same age, i can say the same. and i had a similar impression. i saw wayne shorter at the same festival, doing a very similar thing w electric instruments, and had a similar impression again ... but (rockism alert) really who isn't faking it to some extent in the fourth decade of their career?

showboaty spiritual schtick

people made the same criticism of coltrane!

i never understood the appeal of "a love supreme". so repetitive, so uninspired, so boring

comment does what it says on the tin

(the repetition is the point)

1) it's literally a hymn and 2) did you know they go over the theme in all 12 keys over the course of the song? that's kind of cool if you think about it

I too prefer Ascension but I won't die on the street for its sake.

did you know they go over the theme in all 12 keys over the course of the song

Pharoah Sanders and Alice Coltrane have both routinely been called out for their 'showboaty spiritual schtick' over the years - though not so much lately - so I don't think it's that controversial an opinion.

3 days late but is this where I admit I liked Paw, Brad and Satchel too?

Pigeonhed or gtfo

them too

Shawn Smith's voice is a beautiful thing.

Agreed! Saw a solo Showbox lounge show last decade, and his vocals were just as good live as on the albums. Shame no new Pigeonhed in the years since The Full Sentence.

Controversial nowhere but ILX: if you prefer Meditations, Ascension, or OM to any Coltrane prior to 1965, you are insane

you should've seen deej on the all time jazz poll then

ahhh spiritual hat jazz ... a legendary debate