those are two of my favorites
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link
Huh I rather like that NMH album and its appealingly poor mix decisions
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
Indie folk as Raw Power.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link
Aeroplane has a way of recapturing my admiration every time I think it can't be that good.
Calling it "the greatest album of all time" is not helpful, I agree.
― jmm, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link
that's part of it, i think. just a singular work that inexplicably resonated widely with the public
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link
wrt In an Aeroplane it's funny that people always say oh it's overrated blah blah blah and listen I'm as big a douchebag as anyone Dusk at Cubist Castle rules blah blah blah why isn't Sparklehorse in the rock n roll hall of fame blah blah blah
but like it's gotta be SOMETHING right? like something that resonates with people in a way that other things don't?
I'm a fan of the album and it was there when i was a sad college kid that drank too much
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:21 (five years ago) link
the mixing is part of it.
there is no "greatest album of all time" because all great for different reasons
i think a lot of it is the lyrics. pretty opaque and hallucinatory for the most part but then it startles you with something really direct. "dad is dreaming of all the different ways to die"; "it's so sad to see the world agree that they'd rather see their faces filled with flies"'; "and in my dreams you're alive"
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link
I feel like saying In An Aeroplane Over The Sea is a good album is a controversial music opinion these days (on this board at least). It's a good album, not just lyrically or whatever, it has a unique sound and feel that creates something really moving.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
That being said, I don't know if I'd like it as much if I heard it for the first time now. That album came at the right time for me.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link
Really Blues Traveler wasn't that bad
one good moment is when he blurts "For instance" going into the harmonica solo on "All In The Groove"
― L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
Jeff Mangum's voice is grating to me. I would of fit right in with the early 00's punk rock.
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link
it*
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link
his style seems to be "sing as loud as possible without actually yelling"
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link
I listened to it for the first time ever last year, as part of MWE (music writers listen to an album they've never heard every day in February and tweet their thoughts).
#MWE Day 23: Neutral Milk Hotel, In the Aeroplane Over the Sea (1998). Eh, I've heard worse. The main dork can kinda sing, at least. pic.twitter.com/br8cEq8SfM— burning ambulance (listen to the podcast!) (@burn_amb) February 23, 2018
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link
guys there are a zillion records out there, this one^ is certainly one of the "best"
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link
like there are 80,000 albums released every year, what is the threshold? I haven't listened to NMH in many years probably suspecting that it won't affect me the same way it did in my youth, but that doesn't mean it's not one of the "best"
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link
statistically!
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link
well yeah
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link
(i'm sarcastically excited about the popular opinion of what the "best" albums are)
― ٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link
the "best" albums:
summoning: strongholdsummoning: oath boundsummoning: let the moral heroes sing your famesummoning: dol goldurmiles davis: kind of blue
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:33 (five years ago) link
The Dooleys - Full HouseBradley Walsh - Chasing DreamsThe Donkey Derbies - Frank Zappa Is Fucking Awful
― Stephen Yakkety-Yaxley-Rosbif (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
kind of blue more like kind of decent
― imago, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
Parallel lines is the best album
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
kind of blue more like kind of fucking awesome!!!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link
"indie" (ie not jazz, metal, hip-hop, or classic rock) records worthy of their reputations imho, as determined by my impressions upon revisiting them within the past year:
DisintegrationSpirit of EdenHounds of LoveLoveless Daydream NationMarquee MoonEntertainment!Zen ArcadeDeserter's SongsPsychocandyIt's A Shame About RayDouble Nickels on the Dime
maybe not controp, but all of these wipe the floor with Nevermind, ITAOTS, and Is This It
Been going back and listening to a lot of things I liked 15-20 years ago for some reason, so this discussion is somewhat timely
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link
Prefer Kind of Court and Spark
*pushes glasses up nose*
― Stephen Yakkety-Yaxley-Rosbif (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link
Pierro Scaruffi sez Aeroplane is the 7th "Best pop (melodic) albums of all times.". One bester than the DB's Stand For Decibels but not quite as best as a record by the 6ths
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
70. Jason Falkner: Author Unknown (Elektra, 1996)
obviously 73 or 74 but whatever
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link
i'd like to add copeland's blushing and autopsy's mental funeral to that list of "best" albums, they must have slipped my mind
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link
i don't think very many records wipe the floor with nevermind. nevermind, every time i revisit it, seems to wipe the floor with everything
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:01 (five years ago) link
and i like in utero slightly more myself but come on
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link
getting across that kind of power pop clarity and simplicity through angry punk songs, harder than you think
i think Nirvana at the time was a band i was a bit cool on but every single time i hear a Nirvana song now, anything from Bleach or Nevermind or In Utero, i wonder why i wasn't more into them. I think Unplugged is actually the one i've cooled on more when at the time of its release i maybe liked it the most.
but then again a lot of those early '90s grunge albums sound a lot better now than they did at the time. i always liked them but even moreso now Pearl Jam completely owns, for example.
― omar little, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:16 (five years ago) link
when Cornell died (RIP) I went back to Soundgarden for the first time in forever and goddamn what a fucking band, what great sounding records
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:18 (five years ago) link
yup
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:19 (five years ago) link
i spun Superunknown for the first time in a million years after he died and that's a massive album.
― omar little, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link
yes
― imago, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link
the best
― marcos smart (Spottie), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link
soundgarden were the real deal
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link
have put on Superunknown to try and resolve my one hang-up with the record: its opening stretch. from Head Down onward it's a perfect record but...OK I've gone in let's do this
― imago, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link
to me it's Louder Than Love > Ultramega OK > Superunknown > the rest
But I agree, amazing band
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:42 (five years ago) link
Badmotorfinger is better than all of those, and those are all really good.
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:47 (five years ago) link
shit'ch yea, Soundgarden wailed. Hearing "Wave" at the end of one of the episodes of Escape From Dannemora--it set the tone so perfectly for Tillie's brazen idiocy and semi- lack of conscientiousness, during one of the final few episodes.
controversial, though. Hmmmn. Another Timbre (label) has been putting out high quality recordings for the last nine years, at a consistent / quick frequency. There's an unusually high # of 'classics', for the amount of releases there are. I probably already posted about AT, though
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:58 (five years ago) link
OK yeah, I'd have Superunknown start with the title track and ditch everything before it to an EP or something. I've contropped the uncontroppable, sorry
― imago, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:01 (five years ago) link
Badmotorfinger is the best IMO
the one that sounded a LOT better than I remembered was Down on the Upside
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:02 (five years ago) link
I think I prefer Superunknown because it has more of my favourite sort of Soundgarden song: the roiling six-minute bastard
That said, Pretty Noose is maybe their best tune?
― imago, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link
Five-minute bastards can also apply
god those 90s albums (not just soundgarden) were *long*
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:06 (five years ago) link
I too have come to the shattering realization that pearl jam whips ass
Like listen to “the leash” ... what goes harder than that? And I think their whole ethos was kinda cool *shrug*
At the time I vastly preferred Green Day
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:21 (five years ago) link