pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

because it's about pitchfork ratings and the implication is the rest of the world liking GVF, or the grammy or w/e, is going to change the critical consensus

as for why eight years, numerology and the need to make a strong parallel in a tweet on all levels apparently

Speaking of Childish Gambino, I was checking to see where "This is America" landed in Pitchfork's Top 100 last year. Turns out it didn't appear in it at all, and yet "Childish Gambino" is listed in the keywords for that article, and the article shows up on his artist page. I'm guessing that in an earlier draft of the list, he was in there? Or they were trying to maximize search engine results by getting Childish Gambino fans to check out the list?

because it's about pitchfork ratings and the implication is the rest of the world liking GVF, or the grammy or w/e, is going to change the critical consensus

The tweet doesn’t seem to say anything about critical consensus? The “joke” just seems to be around the irony that P’fork gives a 1.6 to an artist who later wins Grammys... and it happened immediately in GVF’s case, no need to wait. (Obv. though, GVF only won in the Rock category, not Song/Record of the Year.)

it's badly-structured all around and I was undercaffeinated

or the joke is that in six years CG went from pitchfork low score to a grammy

GVF did the same within a year and will obviously be emperors of the world and throwing pitchfork writers into a giant meat grinder by 2026?

by 2026 we will hopefully have figured out this mystifying Steven Hyden joke

meat grinder 20206

tbf CG also won a Grammy last year, but it was a dinky Grammy, like the one GVF won last night

I only accept medium to large sized Grammys

I was confused by the HEALTH review as well, but this is a pretty solid burn: I suspect the song got stuck with the name “FEEL NOTHING” because there’s already a nu-metal track called “Numb,” and while this isn’t the place to discuss the relative merits of Linkin Park, their take on the time-honored tradition of freezing away existential pain at least came with four whole chords and a hook.

or maybe it got "stuck" with the name "Feel Nothing" because it's the final phrase of the chorus, aka literally the most common place to drop your title in all of pop/rock songwriting

I don't even care about HEALTH that much just found all the burns weirdly strained

while this isn’t the place to discuss the relative merits of Linkin Park

and yet here we are

“I’m So Fucking Grateful For… The Grammys?”

In which a Pitchfork writer pretends to be surprised at enjoying an awards show that feeds off the social media response fueled image-first, music-second celebrity culture that they’ve been bought into for years now.

your opinions are tedious

Maybe it got named “feel nothing” because that’s a fantastic name.

(Note that the lead track on my high school band’s platinum selling (300 copies in a small town) debut album was called “feel nothing”)

Z, I want to hear that album.

Also, FP me all you want, but this is truthbomb has been marinating for a while, I think. . .
https://i.imgur.com/0jZhK8d.png

Also, I have never Googled the word "pitchfork" on a work terminal ever before and that's where I'm posting from.🐸

The grammys and pitchfork can have different perspectives

And that “Pitchfork writer” in this case is k4th3rin3 st. 4s4ph, who as I’m sure we all know is deeply unwelcome on ilx

(Her name unexpectedly - for me at least - just got run through some inbuilt text filter, so if she actually did do something to make herself unwelcome I apologize for my lack of tact)

Dude what is wrong with you?

(Oh no)

(Please be assured that all I meant was “Katherine has used ilx so it seems weird to call her out as part of some faceless organization”)

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(Perhaps not the best venue or topic for any form of sarcasm, so my apologies)

Nicki Says She’s Dropping Out of BET Concert After Being Shaded in Cardi Grammys Tweet

When did Pfork start using only first names in headlines, a la US Weekly?

Conde Nast house style, I bet.

Yeah, that really struck me too

Transformation to celebrity gossip supermarket checkout line tabloid almost complete

You don't save a lot of space leaving the "B" off of a name

Just realized I dreamed about Nicki and Cardi last night, no joke. (plus, Max Martin & Ilya... these were the last things I was reading/thinking of before going to sleep.)

Do any of those dream-symbology webpages have a section on the hidden significance of topline writers

Anyway, you guys critiquing the “celebrity culture / supermarket tabloid” angle may want to turn your attn to the actual news item re: Nicki & BET — as that’s a case of a media org getting seriously burned by leaning too far into that space (one tweet apparently did them a lot of damage).

kind of an immensely dumb tweet that looks like an overzealous intern wrote it and which they pulled immediately but celebrity is a petty petty landscape so

every dumb pulled tweet needs a two day cycle of thinkpieces now

I feel like such an old man

If you don’t think the impact of Nicki pulling herself and Lil Wayne out of BETX, as a result of being dragged in a BET News tweet, are interesting / worth talking about, then... well, I guess you’re not really interested in music showbiz!

Transformation to celebrity gossip supermarket checkout line tabloid almost complete

― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:19 AM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you a triggercut sock or is triggercut a sock of you

In which a Pitchfork writer pretends to be surprised at enjoying an awards show that feeds off the social media response fueled image-first, music-second celebrity culture that they’ve been bought into for years now.

― triggercut, Monday, February 11, 2019 6:26 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for what it's worth I actually was surprised, and I'm sorry if I wrote anything wrong, I have been operating on one hour of sleep

I could pretend to not be surprised, if that would make you feel better

like, this is a show that has historically been fairly bad, where the overwhelming critical/audience/viewership consensus has been that they have been bad and have steadily grown worse, where the lead-up to the ceremony itself was full of negative news stories and distracting feuds, where many anticipated performers either pulled out or refused to attend, and also where I stayed up until 5 a.m. to write about it (hence the one hour of sleep) on a Sunday night when I had work (late to) and a real analysis quiz (probably flunked) the following Monday. it would be very surprising if I expected to enjoy it.

I read the piece and thought it was really good

idk if you need to justify yourself to someone who read the headline and nothing further

katherine, I enjoyed your piece, which was witty about a not necessarily wit-sparking topic.

Brad and fgti otm and morrisp otm too. This thread is pitiable.

I think some posters expect individual writers to adhere to some Voice of Pitchfork continuity like they're writing for a comic book or something

wow yes

personally I don't expect perfect coherency btwn writers or whatever but the lyrics thing does bug me

I liked that Katherine's article took a concept that I (and I'm guessing, several other music obsessives) never quite knew how to elucidate - how the current-generation consensus is slowly replacing the current version of past-generation consensus - and made it understandable.

I have thoughts about the "the lyrics are bad, here's why" method of a takedown review, but I can't really summarize them in a way that I find is effective. But here goes. It's almost as if it's a proxy for larger acknowledgments of changing tastes, aging, exhaustion, lack of interest in 2nd- and 3rd-stages of musician's career arcs. It's a maguffin, pinning a holistic dislike of A Band That We May Have Once Liked Or At Least Tolerated on "lyrical missteps". It kind of puts the critic in a position of being "not an asshole, just being objective"-- a contrast from say Jeremy Larson's takedown of Greta Von Fleet, where he was unabashedly and entertainingly being a massive dick. I find the "the lyrics are bad, here's why" approach to a takedown to leave me feeling a little lied to, myself-- "you liked HEALTH at one point and there's no difference between this and their early stuff except we're all older and the world has changed". But it's an understandable direction to take, preferable for the critic's own clean conscience to throw a band under a bus based on "objective complaints about the lyrics" than a piece about how "athletic music made by men about ennui is only a sustainable band-model until age 25. Grow up, HEALTH; we did."