What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

If y'all wanna pretend a Trump fan who hates women's voices posted, go nuts. And leave me out.

Three Word Username: What's yr opinion of the Greta Van Fleet dude's voice?

Is this whole tangent because of the thread title?

Bud I'm not calling you a Trump loving woman hater. Read the words again. The point being made is that discounting women for their voices is real and has deep roots in how we think and talk about rhetoric whether a Google News search suggests it's "a thing" or not. I'm trying to buttress your point that dislike that presents as rooted in the voice is a real phenomenon.

xp it's not a tangent, because of the thread title

But maybe that wasn't your point at all and I misunderstood you, fuck this stupid website xp

no way this website is cool

Bud I'm not calling you a Trump loving woman hater. Read the words again. The point being made is that discounting women for their voices is real and has deep roots in how we think and talk about rhetoric whether a Google News search suggests it's "a thing" or not. I'm trying to buttress your point that dislike that presents as rooted in the voice is a real phenomenon.

Neanderthal, a theatre performer, tracked where the reaction to TWU's post hurtled through the guardrail just fine, we could probably drop the whole thing now

although after

Her voice is good. She sounds like a young person from the new york metropolitan area.

― Trϵϵship, Monday, February 11, 2019 4:07 AM

The idea of people who are not literally communications strategists for the demcoratic party expending any thought (on) something like a politician’s voice makes me want to die.

― Trϵϵship, Monday, February 11, 2019 4:14 AM

I actually have had the thought before that someone will complain about her voice because it's not deep enough and I know how that plagues women to be taken seriously. It sucks.

x-post: Ah, no, you do understand my point, Hoos, sorry. Others gave been less generous and I get grumpy in response, shame on me. What I am saying is that I am having a strong visceral negative reaction to her voice (and really, it's her vocal production technique, not her unchangeable voice), but I'm conscious of it and don't dismiss her because of it. Other folks hear the same thing with a different set of prejudices and hear what they want to hear, which is "stupid and young and whiney". It's up to her what she wants to do with her voice entirely; I do think there could be some danger of vocal problems later, and that to me is a real reason to change your style of speaking when you enter a rhetoric job; appeasing misogynists is not a good reason to change.

xp sic, i don't understand why those were quoted. i was saying that 1.) i think her voice is fine, and 2.) regardless, the whole concern-trolling obsession with "optics"--i.e., "it's no problem to me, personally, but i just wonder how xyz will come across to voters in Michconsin"—makes me want to die.

it's so naturalized to "think like a strategist" now

it’s lightly amusing that you expressed an opinion about her voice, and then seven minutes later said that the very concept of (other) people even having an unexpressed opinion about her voice made you want to die

seven minutes is a long time. everyone says seven minute songs are long.

this is a bad thread

fwiw,the thread title is a reference to

what are barack obama's flaws?

i meant it as a compliment (barack obama had a relatively successful political career), not as a serious conversation starter. not everyone's going to understand the callback, but i figured the vast majority of ilxors would since we don't exactly get much new blood around these parts.

km, i know the reference i just think its funny how this is becoming every ilx politics thread.

i think i need sitewide mod privs so i can yellow card people into submission

what are m bison's flaws?

he doesnt have sitewide mod privs

i support that!

i was actually xposting to a few people upthread who hated the title

support the idea of you yellowcarding everyone i mean! xpost city

look at that, mailman delivering on sundays

anyway back to the topic...

one of AOC's flaws is that she cant grant me sitewide mod privs to own people on the politics thread in private via yellow carding

can we make aoc an honorary mod

xp Maybe she can. Send her a letter.

only if she supports the mean new deal (where i am mean to people on the Web funded by deficits)

the campaign season starts earlier and earlier

Meet your new mod (not a dictator)!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Bison_%28Super_Street_Fighter_II%29.png

honorary mods don't get banning privileges or anything like that. their picture is just on the wall of the ILX pizzeria.

wow please stop posting my thirst trap pictures from like 2 months ago, im a totally different person now

xp

thread should have been called who da fuq is AOC imo

Alabama Open Carry

We find repeated stress throughout the ancient literature on the authority of the deep male voice in contrast to the female.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28_0gXLKLbk

I think of AOC like Guru from Gangstarr, like did he have the must naturally great rap voice? probably not...but AOC's great personality, social media savvy and knack for being able to make political points really simple and impactful for people is like Guru's I'll lyrical skills...this is supported by her her progressive left agenda which is like the banging Premo beats of American politics....and the green new deal could be her Hard to Earn

ums with the most correct take, lock thread

Wait, but didn't Guru say that it's mostly the voice?

he did but i think he was projecting some of his insecurities tbh

god now I'm stuck with Thatcher's Miss Jean Brodie routine in my head

safe to say that at least some prominent people fell for the disinformation campaign that immediately popped up around the green new deal

Safe to say Green New Deal will be a staple of Trump's 2020 stump speech: “I really don’t like their policy of taking away your car, of taking away your airplane rights, of let’s hop a train to California, of you’re not allowed to own cows anymore," he said to cheers in El Paso.

— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) February 12, 2019

hell, his own staff probably came up with the disinformation campaign

i thought her campaign are admitting that they posted the faq now, but with qualification that it was done prematurely? or is that ref to a different disinfo campaign

there was a fake version of it circulating that said men had to drink their own urine under this plan

in the actual plan, men have to drink everyone else's urine

right. under socialism, there wouldn't really be a concept of own's "own" urine anyway.

Territorial pissings.

lmfao treeship

right. under socialism, there wouldn't really be a concept of own's "own" urine anyway.

new board description please

If socialism means trough urinals, I'm out.

Romania had trough urinals under Ceausescu. Therefore socialism means having trough urinals. It's pure logic.