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Dean Martin is good. Little old wine drinker me. I'm drinking some wine now but they're playing some boogie or whatever, dino not ok trend

sounds pleasant, can't dance to it, 5.5

xp lol it was meant as an xp to flopsy. depression is not controversial

quality unemotional affectless treble-less ambient music flows through my chakras like spiritual drain-o

I always wanted to read the big Dino bio

It's amazing how fast people's mouths move just to talk.

Songs In The Key Of Life is right up there with Disintegration in the list of "worst albums to be regarded as classics"

hey now

why is this air banging on my eardrums

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I always wanted to read the big Dino bio

Nick Tosches is the worst of the first generation of rock critics (though Richard Meltzer gives him a serious run for it).

Songs In The Key Of Life more like Songs That Make Me Feel Frustrated With Their Insipidness And Interminability And Cause Me Great Aggravation When I'm Trying To Buy Groceries, Plus "Sir Duke", Which Is Admittedly Fantastic

After some weekend consideration I’ve come to the conclusion that Sugar Ray is in fact better than Sigur Ros.

music wise there is hardly anything in the world that is worse than sigur ros. maybe german schlager.

you know I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk shit about Stevie Wonder ever on a music board, so bravo

in college I had a buddy who was big into Sigur Ros and I remember thinking Aegutus Bryumr (sp?) was just this super-gorgeous, life-affirming music. a few months later I asked to borrow the CD and listened to it in the car and was amazed at how droll and silly it was. like, I have no clue what I heard the first time. no I was not high.

This is a real phenomenon and I've never been able to explain it. Many are the records I heard in the context of a record store or in a friend's car and decided I needed to own only to buy it and bring it home and wonder what I saw in it

maybe almost everything sounds good at a record store or in a friend's car

xp Yeah I dunno I feel like I'm the only person in the world with that particular allergy. I like "Uptight" and that era of stuff

curious as to what else is on that list of "worst albums to be regarded as classics"

he peaked with Fulfillingness' First Finale tbh

xp i had exactly the same experience with agaetis byrjun, frogbs. i heard it on the radio played by a dj i considered good in 2001? and thought it was subtle transcendental music. when i bought the cd and listened to it, it turned into dust. all i heard was someone who tried to sing like a whale and failing surrounded by bombastic musical triteness.

Ennnh those are really the two that spring to mind! More often than not I'm on the other side of the fence, wondering why people have forgotten how great [album] is

Its youuuOOOOoooooooooo

I didn't like Agaetis, but I liked ( ) a lot and saw them on that tour, accompanied by a string quartet. It was awesome. But I haven't liked anything they've done since, and honestly I had kinda forgotten they still existed until reading this thread.

I am another Stevie Wonder skeptic. Talking Book and Innervisions are great, but Songs... is absolutely a slog.

I just called to say I love frogbs

And I mean it from the otm of my heart

i prefer "secret life of plants" myself

Stevie doesn't do much for me either honestly, and I'm a big fan of 60s/70s soul/rnb/whatever you wanna call it (eg Curtis Mayfield is one of the geniuses of music imo). Even Innervisions I can do without.

fgti otm

he peaked with Fulfillingness' First Finale tbh

It's definitely the most underrated of that famous run of albums.

just stopped to say that not loving Stevie Wonder's music from the beginning of his career up through Original Musiquarium I is sick and wrong

i just called to say.....you're sick and wrong

Nick Tosches is the worst of the first generation of rock critics (though Richard Meltzer gives him a serious run for it).

Meltzer had a better grasp of '60s rock than any of the other first generation mainstream dudes, even if his '60s era writing is whacked out. He talks down his more serious '70s era writing like his stuff for the Village Voice in the anthology, but at his best during that time, he was brilliant. (I'd include some of his earlier '70s Rolling Stone reviews in there, too.)

In the Sigur Ros vein, it was a bad day when I realised that Dead Can Dance are schlock of the highest order. Might have been when I saw Lisa Gerrard interviewed for Toward the Within or Mirror Pool or something.

Yeah sorry I’m sick and wrong. I admit I’ve only given the classic era albums (aside from Innervisions and Life, which I’ve tried so hard to love) a once through, and they’re fine, tho the singles I would happily do without, I just can’t really compare Stevie to other similar artists of that era who with lesser chops didn’t always feel like every song was a science project on Childbirth or Fission or Was Jesus Real? or Mental Health Is Important

Stevie Wonder won many science fairs in the 70s but made no albums I have any patience for

do you seriously not like 'As', flambo???

No, “As” gets a 0 from me. The song expresses nothing but proficiency, it (like so many other SW songs) ends at the 3:30 mark and continues on for another 3:30, there is no risk, there is no sense of suspension, there is no bouyancy, it’s a plane that refuses to take off. There is more drama in a recent burp than there is in this interminable declaration of devotion. Stevie in the 70s is to me what Prince in the 00s is to others, a brilliant musician coasting

O__o

i love the last 3 minutes of ‘As’, works well in disco sets too

Like I’m sitting here swooning over the prospect of a lost Marvin Gaye album and you’re talking at me about Stevie fucking Wonder

yeah cept we all like Marvin Gaye as well as Stevie lol

The first Sigur Ros album (Von) is pretty cool, actually. No strings, way darker, lots of distorted guitars and noise, long sections of silence, vocals are relatively buried

music wise there is hardly anything in the world that is worse than sigur ros. maybe german schlager.

(Not being facile btw, it was one of my most surprising and fun musical discoveries of the past six months)

My controversial opinion is that Sigur Ros are good and Agaetis Byrjun is their best LP.
However I haven't listened to them in 15 years and now am a bit scared to

Ok, Ny Batteri is still great

I have fond memories of Sigur Rós but no desire to revisit their music in the near future.

Oh, and fgti ruthlessly otm re: Stevie Wonder.

imo "cloying sentimentality" has been an implicit part of SW's artistry since he was making records, way more than 90% of his 60s/70s contemporaries; that he was able to keep the excesses largely at bay in the 70s is an achievement

I have fond memories of Sigur Rós but no desire to revisit their music in the near future.

There’s quite a lot of good German schlager, actually.