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I've never didn't got Scott 4! The Seventh Seal is dross, On Your Own Again is moving because of the epiphany and the string entry and charming in it brevity, The World's Strongest Man is trite, Angels Of Ashes is a cyclical wonderland that I adored until I decided I might learn it and then read the lyrics and wow they are bad, Boy Child is one of Scott's best, same with Hero, and I have no particular feelings for he rest of it. 4 is scattershot emotionally and there is none of the incredible world-building that Scott 3 goes for, which sustains such a specific and perfect mood, and would be one of my favourite records of all time except that "We Came Through" is out of place, "30th Century Man" is unambitious, and I prefer Brel in French

― flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, February 7, 2019 7:07 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The keepers from 4:

On Your Own Again (brevity!)
Hero of the War
Boy Child
Get Behind Me
The Old Man's Back Again

...which is five more than I expected.

― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, February 7, 2019 7:11 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I LOVE The Seventh Seal in all its Morri-phoney glory. My faves are that, Old Man and Hero of the War

I think 4 is my favourite of the lot. Scott 3 I find a bit sleepy and a monotonous. So many slow soaring tracks, not enough bite

my favorite songs on 4 are the ones where he scats at the end

jfc "people like you who like too much music" - you can never like too much music

nah see you win the game of liking music when you are so discerning that you like mayyyyybe 1 piece of music

The second half of Scott 4 is a bit of a let down (relatively speaking, love the man and his records). Scott 3 is completely consistent imo and, might I say, dreamy (perhaps that's the 'sleepy' DL mentions). But The Seventh Seal would be one of the first songs I'd put on a C90 of the man.

nah see you win the game of liking music when you are so discerning that you like mayyyyybe 1 piece of music

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger)

too indiscriminate, truly discerning listeners know that all music that's been made is inferior but continue to hold out hope that one day a piece of music will be made that meets that listener's exacting standards

Dwee-dattun-dat Josef is back

i don’t like much music anymore, but it’s not because im discerning, it’s bc im depressed

i connect with music through some form of joy. when im depressed it’s just like, why is this air banging on my eardrums

Getting too real flopman

Dean Martin is good. Little old wine drinker me. I'm drinking some wine now but they're playing some boogie or whatever, dino not ok trend

sounds pleasant, can't dance to it, 5.5

xp lol it was meant as an xp to flopsy. depression is not controversial

quality unemotional affectless treble-less ambient music flows through my chakras like spiritual drain-o

I always wanted to read the big Dino bio

It's amazing how fast people's mouths move just to talk.

Songs In The Key Of Life is right up there with Disintegration in the list of "worst albums to be regarded as classics"

hey now

why is this air banging on my eardrums

new board descrip

I always wanted to read the big Dino bio

Nick Tosches is the worst of the first generation of rock critics (though Richard Meltzer gives him a serious run for it).

Songs In The Key Of Life more like Songs That Make Me Feel Frustrated With Their Insipidness And Interminability And Cause Me Great Aggravation When I'm Trying To Buy Groceries, Plus "Sir Duke", Which Is Admittedly Fantastic

After some weekend consideration I’ve come to the conclusion that Sugar Ray is in fact better than Sigur Ros.

music wise there is hardly anything in the world that is worse than sigur ros. maybe german schlager.

you know I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk shit about Stevie Wonder ever on a music board, so bravo

in college I had a buddy who was big into Sigur Ros and I remember thinking Aegutus Bryumr (sp?) was just this super-gorgeous, life-affirming music. a few months later I asked to borrow the CD and listened to it in the car and was amazed at how droll and silly it was. like, I have no clue what I heard the first time. no I was not high.

This is a real phenomenon and I've never been able to explain it. Many are the records I heard in the context of a record store or in a friend's car and decided I needed to own only to buy it and bring it home and wonder what I saw in it

maybe almost everything sounds good at a record store or in a friend's car

xp Yeah I dunno I feel like I'm the only person in the world with that particular allergy. I like "Uptight" and that era of stuff

curious as to what else is on that list of "worst albums to be regarded as classics"

he peaked with Fulfillingness' First Finale tbh

xp i had exactly the same experience with agaetis byrjun, frogbs. i heard it on the radio played by a dj i considered good in 2001? and thought it was subtle transcendental music. when i bought the cd and listened to it, it turned into dust. all i heard was someone who tried to sing like a whale and failing surrounded by bombastic musical triteness.

Ennnh those are really the two that spring to mind! More often than not I'm on the other side of the fence, wondering why people have forgotten how great [album] is

Its youuuOOOOoooooooooo

I didn't like Agaetis, but I liked ( ) a lot and saw them on that tour, accompanied by a string quartet. It was awesome. But I haven't liked anything they've done since, and honestly I had kinda forgotten they still existed until reading this thread.

I am another Stevie Wonder skeptic. Talking Book and Innervisions are great, but Songs... is absolutely a slog.

I just called to say I love frogbs

And I mean it from the otm of my heart

i prefer "secret life of plants" myself

Stevie doesn't do much for me either honestly, and I'm a big fan of 60s/70s soul/rnb/whatever you wanna call it (eg Curtis Mayfield is one of the geniuses of music imo). Even Innervisions I can do without.

fgti otm

he peaked with Fulfillingness' First Finale tbh

It's definitely the most underrated of that famous run of albums.

just stopped to say that not loving Stevie Wonder's music from the beginning of his career up through Original Musiquarium I is sick and wrong

i just called to say.....you're sick and wrong

Nick Tosches is the worst of the first generation of rock critics (though Richard Meltzer gives him a serious run for it).

Meltzer had a better grasp of '60s rock than any of the other first generation mainstream dudes, even if his '60s era writing is whacked out. He talks down his more serious '70s era writing like his stuff for the Village Voice in the anthology, but at his best during that time, he was brilliant. (I'd include some of his earlier '70s Rolling Stone reviews in there, too.)

In the Sigur Ros vein, it was a bad day when I realised that Dead Can Dance are schlock of the highest order. Might have been when I saw Lisa Gerrard interviewed for Toward the Within or Mirror Pool or something.

Yeah sorry I’m sick and wrong. I admit I’ve only given the classic era albums (aside from Innervisions and Life, which I’ve tried so hard to love) a once through, and they’re fine, tho the singles I would happily do without, I just can’t really compare Stevie to other similar artists of that era who with lesser chops didn’t always feel like every song was a science project on Childbirth or Fission or Was Jesus Real? or Mental Health Is Important

Stevie Wonder won many science fairs in the 70s but made no albums I have any patience for

do you seriously not like 'As', flambo???

No, “As” gets a 0 from me. The song expresses nothing but proficiency, it (like so many other SW songs) ends at the 3:30 mark and continues on for another 3:30, there is no risk, there is no sense of suspension, there is no bouyancy, it’s a plane that refuses to take off. There is more drama in a recent burp than there is in this interminable declaration of devotion. Stevie in the 70s is to me what Prince in the 00s is to others, a brilliant musician coasting

O__o

i love the last 3 minutes of ‘As’, works well in disco sets too

Like I’m sitting here swooning over the prospect of a lost Marvin Gaye album and you’re talking at me about Stevie fucking Wonder