Autechre: Classic or Dud?

it does seem overwhelming

I really wish there was a physical version of Elseq. The NTS box set is so beautiful.

i do too, but groups like autechre need to fuck up every once in a while with their releases so that in the late 2020s when they finally release a physical copy we'll have reason to get pumped mid-2010's style

yea the artwork for elseq kinda begs for a deluxe foldout vinyl

do all 28 share the same basic backing track & can they be mixed into 1?

it’s more like they share similar progressions, but the guys shape the way that they evolve, when they transition, etc

anyway you can play them all from the store website, so have a listen

I'll have to follow this thread to see what the group loves most out of these 19 releases, then I'll...consider buying one or two? Would be more psyched if there was a physical release honestly. (And, fair enough, I did cop Elseq a few years back, but am trying to cop fewer things that are just collections of files)

― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Friday, February 1, 2019 8:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

came here to post p much these exact words

there was an evolution in the first lot of live sets, more elements were gradually added to the mix. might start with the last of the new ones and see how different it is.

I am (with some regret) going to be honest with myself and pass on this entirely, even though $33 for roughly 28 hours of music is an excellent price. For one thing, I am way too busy to ever get around to listening to all or even a significant percentage of it, and for another, I just don't like music that comes in one-hour slabs. I like discrete tracks, preferably anywhere from three to ten minutes. So...nope.

Listening back to the Denver recording (we were there) - Ae's sets have definitely progressed somewhat from the European dates (Dublin + Utrecht are favorites), timbre-wise, and re: transitions in between 'parts'-- the general flow of things feels different ... seeing them live, it was was one of the most psychedelic sound experiences I've ever had.. quite a treat to be able to hear direct / desk recordings of that show. For $1.50

...for another, I just don't like music that comes in one-hour slabs. I like discrete tracks, preferably anywhere from three to ten minutes. So...nope.

― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, February 2, 2019 6:26 AM (eleven hours ago)

this doesn't seem like you at all to me! I've always admired your commitment to music that isn't accessible in small portions

although I agree with you that this seems like maybe too much of a time investment

For what it's worth, I kinda consider most of the post-Confield Ae albums (save for Quaristice \ 'versions') as whole "slabs" of almost continuous material. These live sets contain some of the rawest and most wholesome 'Autechre-speak', to my ears. It seems like they really honed the AE_LIVE material on these later USA dates... the textures are gorgeous. First four minutes of the Denver set is outta this world

Denver is good, I think Chicago is the best I've heard so far though.

All 28 recordings are on Spotify! Elseq too. Just after I bought them all, oh well at least I've funded a takeaway or two for sean & rob.

nice! having all of this available on spotify is so much more convenient for me

those four _s at the bottom of the autechre page keep changing (i think). currently they are pointing at different wetransfer pages with files called things like AE_LIVE_SETLIST_BACKUP_030308 which are descriptions of what is connected to what:

AeLive08 Set List

MIDI Routing: MachineDrum out to MonoMachine in. MonoMachine thru to MPC1K inA. MPC1K outA to NMG2 in. (BS3X out1 to MPC1K inB).

Audio Routing: MonoMachine outC/D to MachineDrum extinA/B.

Elektrons: Do not use Song Mode, use Pattern Mode only. MachineDrum: Do not use Classic Mode, use Extended Mode only.

Nord Modular G2 Patches: Load performance folder first, then load patchfile, enable Perf Mode.

and also snippets of what looks like a loose list of things to do.

Elektron Pattern	BPM	MPC Sequence	MPC Mutes
A01 - MM/SPS	142 pref.	01 A_SHstRipRok_2br	[SHstripl  + build to SHstrock]
A02 - SPS fades in		02 A_SHsubzPlc_4br	[SHubwafLo + build SHsubRave + build]
A04 -		03 A4_SHdufDyn_4br	[SHzDufduf gseAx + build]
...
A11 - acid twangbass
...
D14 - rave verver
...
F01 - hyper carusel
...
H09 - binbanbin808

one of the bigger files had a bunch of short wav instrument samples in it and patches for a nord modular

I think you could tie in some of those pattern names to the live sets, would put money on rave verver = e.g. Krakow @ 18:55.

it did make me think of your efforts to notate those first 9 live sets. but this is from 2008 (based on filename). would they be using the same components?

gosh darn it. well bladelores/all end shows they're not above code reuse but maybe not that much. who can say? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

are autechre the original Extremely Online group?

FSOL

If running a popular BBS counts then Black Dog were extremely online before most.

Kinda wish I had a Monomachine and MachineDrum just to load their set files. Not sure if it was here or somewhere else but there's a youtube video out there of someone playing with their patches on a Monomachine from that 2008 tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69W6CwNWWrA
(short and noisy)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiFWYtgRBHk
(longer, better sound)

(raises the question as to whether something created using autechre's patches is autechre)

honestly i kind of expect that after the physical forms of Brown & Booth expire, their patches and algorithms will continue generating new music, virtually indistinguishable from their previous work, in some corner of the internet for eternity

Forgot about this one, it's pretty good - intense but chill at the same time. And near enough the Public Enemy Security of the First World (aka Justify my Love) beat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1pJ-7GNV8

(6852 off Warp Records' Made in Japan compilation)

whoa i've never heard this!!

the beat is actually from here:

https://www.whosampled.com/The-Headhunters/God-Make-Me-Funky/

so, payday and easter weekend means it's time to finally buy those live sets...

i got charged the full £31 for them, despite having the first nine already

and then they fail to download... pah.

(i do appear to have a track called "sinistrail sentinel" in my account though, i don't remember paying for that. a freebie?)

yeah it's an adult swim thing (whatever that means), was briefly discussed on one of the many ae threads.

so, about a month later:

"We have cancelled and refunded your order.

This will actually be fixed either tomorrow or the day after. We will let you know once it is, and if you wish, you can purchase a working copy.

So sorry for the delay, this is a complicated product that got broken and the one person who could fix it was on holiday! True story!"

which is almost one for the innocent aesthetic thread.

no mention of a discount for already having those first 9 though. did everyone else get one?

https://www.nts.live/projects/wxaxrxp

AUTECHRE - WARP TAPES 89-93 tonight 11pm and Sunday 11pm (and other warp stuff all weekend)

Listening to this now. It's quite sick. These must be their demo tapes? The beat I'm listening to clearly has some synth sounds from Incunabula, but it's an entirely different song, with a lot more samples.

Cheers mate.

I hope I can find a link for the Leila stuff.

The first one last night - happy 444 with the Kalpol bass. Lovely.

everything from channel 1 as a torrent: http://uk.thelion.me/nts/wxaxrxp_warp30.torrent

Whoa. You sir are a absolute LEDGErnd! <3

i just found it on watmm :)

Or get the wavs free from Autechre’s official store - the torrent above is only 128s

https://autechre.wetransfer.com/downloads/63a38736e3d909b9fb74b8b003a1ba8220190624104249/d27100

Transfer deleted?

https://autechre.wetransfer.com/downloads/3ced4067d9a7754dbdee72ff25191a9820190624140839/05ebe9

Not sure why that didn’t work. Try this?

If not, go to the Autechre store and the link is hidden down at the bottom https://autechre.bleepstores.com/

If you've dug around the watmm threads you might also have seen a "late '80s" tape that someone has dropped in there.

yep, here : https://forum.watmm.com/topic/96791-warp30/page/53/?tab=comments#comment-2725657

and this is just the beginning of the birthday celebrations?

https://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=687

Does this out saer as a member of Autechre???

Can you tell us about the idea behind the mix?

Sunday rovers, the 17, 122, 123, 163, 164, and 167. MCWs and old Atlanteans. Cutdown popmates and edding alphabets.