US Politics February 2019: This is one of the great losers of all time.

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Yes, and african anerican

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link

Xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:01 (five years ago) link

Wait, it's not even him? his yearbook photo is on a page across from the offensive stuff? why should he resign?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link

oh, I see. it's on his personal page? ouch.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:04 (five years ago) link

what sort of yearbook editor even puts that photo in wtf

frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link

yeah, and in 1984.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link

the year Revenge of the Nerds came out

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

anyway yeah idgaf about Northam, this guy seems fine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Fairfax

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:09 (five years ago) link

Fairfax gave the commencement speech at my nephew's graduation, he seems awesome - I was impressed

sleeve, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link

you know maybe the GOP did find the photo but chose not to release it because they were afraid their base would vote for him instead

frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:16 (five years ago) link

lol I had the same thought

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:17 (five years ago) link

"if our guys find out he's a racist, they might vote FOR him!"

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:17 (five years ago) link

lmao

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:24 (five years ago) link

Virginia's governors serve only one term (usually). So I guess this means Northam won't be a senator. Ok.

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link

a lot of people have said there is nothing he can say to excuse that, but someone came up with a good one: "I am proud to have included in my yearbook a picture of the two racists I killed with my bare hands."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 23:02 (five years ago) link

haha

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link

Northram's statement:

“Earlier today, a website published a photograph of me from my 1984 medical school yearbook in a costume that is clearly racist and offensive.

“I am deeply sorry for the decision I made to appear as I did in this photo and for the hurt that decision caused then and now.

“This behavior is not in keeping with who I am today and the values I have fought for throughout my career in the military, in medicine, and in public service. But I want to be clear, I understand how this decision shakes Virginians’ faith in that commitment.

“I recognize that it will take time and serious effort to heal the damage this conduct has caused. I am ready to do that important work. The first step is to offer my sincerest apology and to state my absolute commitment to living up to the expectations Virginians set for me when they elected me to be their Governor.”

I am deeply sorry for the decision I made to appear as I did in this photo and for the hurt that decision caused then and now. and I resign.

fixed

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:21 (five years ago) link

the silver lining in these poll numbers for Schultz is that he has so, so much room to grow

These numbers almost defy belief. Everybody thinks Howard Schultz sucks. https://t.co/CuXPangLDy pic.twitter.com/RcRlJg5pcw

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 2, 2019

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:27 (five years ago) link

It’s a breathtaking failure to read the room

rob, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:29 (five years ago) link

a costume that is clearly racist and offensive

He should have to specify which one!

jmm, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:32 (five years ago) link

To add insult to injury the poll also says he would throw the election to Trump pic.twitter.com/pUF6mO0Bo3

— Will Jordan (@williamjordann) February 2, 2019

(...Beto would really defeat trump, right now? makes me doubt the legitimacy of the poll a little, but maybe that's right because so many people would vote for absolutely anyone other than trump?)

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:39 (five years ago) link

(sorry, i know there are a million other threads for this. i just posted the schultz one here because he's not a potential democratic nominee)

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:41 (five years ago) link

A lot of what Beto has going for him right now is he's not a baby boomer.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:42 (five years ago) link

pls post interesting things here and terrible things in the dem nominee thread that i can't deal with

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:46 (five years ago) link

Was thinking last night that a good campaign song for a Biden/Beto ticket would be Eddie Rabbit's "Drivin' My Life Away"

"oooh I'm Biden my life away, lookin' for a Beto day..."

Darin, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:49 (five years ago) link

he should apologize for it, and then move on

you know it's 2019, right? I give him four days.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 2 February 2019 08:42 (five years ago) link

this person seems not brain smart

I love the folks who want the Democratic Party to follow the electoral disaster of the current Labour Party, a party which is polling behind the most incompetent Tory government ever. That tragedy should be rejected not celebrated. And shows how wrong this person is. https://t.co/ZUv5g56YtN

— Neera Tanden (@neeratanden) January 31, 2019

||||||||, Saturday, 2 February 2019 10:24 (five years ago) link

a party which is polling behind

incorrect

the most incompetent Tory government ever

correct

nashwan, Saturday, 2 February 2019 12:12 (five years ago) link

Some nice irony here, as conservatives seeking to punish Virginia Dems for supporting abortion rights are going to get the conservadem out of office, to be replaced with someone far to his left on the verge of Dems also taking the statehouse this fall.

— Erik Loomis (@ErikLoomis) February 1, 2019

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 February 2019 12:14 (five years ago) link

Indeed, Fairfax could complete Northam's term and then be elected in his own right, getting more time in office than either would have alone.

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 2 February 2019 12:19 (five years ago) link

Neera Tanden also freaked out over Kamala Harris being called a "centrist corncob" because she didn't know what it meant

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 2 February 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link

Some amazing defenses of Northam on a gay politics blog (loaded with Hillary zealots) include, literally, "1984 was a different time."

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 2 February 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link

If anything, it was worse in 1984 because the civil rights movement was not ancient history.

The other thing: it was Northram's medical school yearbook when the dude was 25.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 February 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link

I love how Republicans assume all high school/college kids went through "racially offensive costume" phases, and not, y'know, just them

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 2 February 2019 14:41 (five years ago) link

"Come on, who hasn't thrown on a Klan hood for a laugh?"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 2 February 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link

Who even knew med school yearbooks were a thing?

jmm, Saturday, 2 February 2019 14:46 (five years ago) link

I think they're more of a vanity thing? The craziest aspect of the story is that he concedes he's either the one in blackface or the one in the Klan robe, but he doesn't know which one. Because, you know, it could have been either. Depends on what day of the week it was. M-W-F, blackface. S-Tu-Thurs-Sat, Klan robe.

Common snide response I've seen:

Conservatives: Oh, this guy's a racist, but because he's a Dem you're OK with it?!
Dems: No, we're not, we think he should resign.
Conservatives: ... Oh.
Dems: Now what are you going to do about Steve King, or Trump?
Conservatives: ...

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 February 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link

lol

Ralph Northam Should Not Resign Over a 35 Old Picture. He Should Resign Because He Supports Infanticide. https://t.co/0Lv1hMKMuq

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) February 2, 2019

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 February 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link

the year Revenge of the Nerds came out

― Οuτις

I get the larger point but, um, RotN is not exactly a landmark of wokeness. One of the rapiest "comedies" ever iirc.

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link

I think that is the larger point

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link

in fairness it was two years before Soul Man

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link

NEWS: Northam is calling Va Dems and telling them that’s *not* him in the yearbook photo and he will make a statement this afternoon to say the same. In other words, he is NOT quitting as of right now.

Story TK

— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) February 2, 2019

Worst case scenario, he's lying.
Best case scenario, he's got at least two racist knuckle-walkers he considers good enough friends to post their picture on his medical school yearbook page.

Jesus, dude, walk away.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link

then why did he already apologize? did he think it MIGHT have been him but he couldn't remember?

j., Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:23 (five years ago) link

Nice, the Shaggy defense

jmm, Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:27 (five years ago) link

I don't get it -- he acknowledged yesterday he was one of the two people in the photo?

The narcissism of politicians never ceases to amaze me.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:31 (five years ago) link

jus resign and go away

k3vin k., Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link

Deep down, he just wants to be the Dem Kavanaugh.

pomenitul, Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:33 (five years ago) link

Shoulda kept better calendars then...

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 February 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link

To see Max mocked by Neera Tanden is not a bad thing but a good thing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 2 February 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link

So this just happened at my airport. Obv no way of knowing why he did it but sure not getting paid for weeks didn't help. Horrifying:

https://www.local10.com/news/florida/security-issue-at-orlando-airport-halts-flights-officials-say

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 2 February 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link

Now we know why Jared Kushner still has a security clearance: Trump allegedly ordered it despite the red flags raised by the CIA and FBI and White House lawyers. Career security clearance professionals believed Jared Kushner was enough of a national security risk that he should not get a top secret clearance.

And now I have a message for our national security, defense and intelligence community: Do not share top secret information with Jared Kushner. Trust the career professionals. Do the right thing. Your loyalty is to America, not to Kushner or Trump.

https://lieu.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/rep-lieu-statement-nytimes-story-jared-kushners-security-clearance

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 March 2019 04:47 (five years ago) link

kushner always looks like he's zoned out on a new drug that no one else has tried

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 March 2019 05:53 (five years ago) link

this is the MOU thing from the other day:

https://youtu.be/yaWa61AyT3g

it's whatever, everyone knows he's a dumbass. but it's pathetic how trump doesn't even realize that his trade negotiator is basically saying "i have to do what the dumb man says, please ignore him" - he doesn't even notice

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 March 2019 06:57 (five years ago) link

in other news, check out trump's recent national emergency press conference:

Before we begin, I would like to say that we have a large team of very talented people in China. We have had a negotiation going on for about two days. It’s going extremely well—who knows what that means because it only matters if we get it done, but we are very much working very closely with China and President Xi who I respect a lot, very good relationship that we have. And we are a lot closer than we ever were in this country with having a real trade deal.

When can we expect to see the Trans-Pacific Partnership—the TPP, if indeed it ever happens—be signed into law? We will see. There is a negotiation—a working agreement between the parties that we expect to get signed. China is in the process of developing many other free, open and transparent trade agreements, they will have to deal with these before we come to signing any deal, like the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, which was finalized last week.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership is actually an economic partnership between all stakeholders, all businesses. The purpose of this trade agreement is to create the best trade relationship for China. They have a great economic relationship. I think the one of the things they have done—I know you guys have been saying for about eight months that they had nothing to do with it, because it is already signed. And they are on the verge of coming up with another trade agreement. At this moment you know the Obama administration has decided if that will ever happen—there is concern that China—if they do become a WTO member they will be given a trade deal that is unfair to our economy, it will not be a fair deal for the American people, it will not be a safe deal. And the President of China, we do think they will be given a deal that makes things worse but we do look forward to coming to the negotiating table. That is what I would like to see..

just kidding. the first paragraph is trump, the other two is the result of a text generation system, not even the best version of it, just the limited version: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/twenty-minutes-into-the-future-with-openais-deep-fake-text-ai

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 March 2019 07:12 (five years ago) link

That article is fascinating and hilarious. "GOAT DICK-IN-THE-BOY BOY" would be a great thread title for ... something.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 March 2019 13:08 (five years ago) link

Maybe "They want to take away your hamburgers" for March title. Nothing really good is coming to mind.

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Friday, 1 March 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link

"You just keep killing it"

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 1 March 2019 13:18 (five years ago) link

Good morning!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 March 2019 13:19 (five years ago) link

We still here?

Mark G, Friday, 1 March 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link

I am glad Biden canceled himself so I don't have to do it.

Yerac, Friday, 1 March 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link

his is the MOU thing from the other day:

https://youtu.be/yaWa61AyT3g

it's whatever, everyone knows he's a dumbass. but it's pathetic how trump doesn't even realize that his trade negotiator is basically saying "i have to do what the dumb man says, please ignore him" - he doesn't even notice

― Karl Malone, Friday, March 1, 2019 1:57 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was thinking about this after I watched it, that dunking on Trump for this particular flavor of idiocy is probably suboptimal because how many Americans know what an MOU is? Ideally, we would have a president who is smarter than the average bear, but I feel like a lot of the time when Trump's idiocy gets "exposed" it more just shows he's roughly as aware of the world around him as most of the people he represents, which again is hardly ideal, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people see him get owned for not knowing bureaucratic mechanisms or the history of various foreign actors and feel attacked by proxy because they don't know either.

This is a long way of saying that I think people, and particularly people who are running against him, should focus on mocking Trump for dumb shit he says that proves he's a rich, out-of-touch weirdo rather than a garden variety moron. Like that whole thing where he thought you needed to show ID to buy a loaf of bread, now that was the good stuff.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:02 (five years ago) link

I was thinking about this after I watched it, that dunking on Trump for this particular flavor of idiocy is probably suboptimal because how many Americans know what an MOU is? it's not so bad that he didn't know it's that the guy explained it to him simply and he still didnt fucking get it . I do tend to agree with the strategy you are proposing here though

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:12 (five years ago) link

another good example is this gem:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/20/trump-thinks-young-people-pay-12-for-health-insurance.html

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:20 (five years ago) link

new thred my dudes

US Politics March 2019: when established crooks return under a new username

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link

lol

sold out in presale (sleeve), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link

I'm not gonna be the one to start the new thread, I can't handle the pressure of picking the right title.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link

Done. Thanks for the suggestions!

Mods...?

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:56 (five years ago) link


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