Autechre: Classic or Dud?

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(and isn't that 19 new albums?)

((and isn't downloading them in bulk going to be a problem?))

koogs, Thursday, 31 January 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link

bought it - you just add to cart and they discount it by what you’ve already bought. In my case I bought the 24 bit set previously so adding the 17 new ones was only charged at $1.50 per show/track (making it $25.50 for 17 hours of admittedly-similar live sets)

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:13 (five years ago) link

are they different enough to warrant listening to though

frogbs, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:13 (five years ago) link

i think MatthewK should report back to this thread in exactly 17 hours with the answer!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 31 January 2019 22:38 (five years ago) link

i make it 19 new sets, 28 in total, 9 original.

koogs, Thursday, 31 January 2019 22:40 (five years ago) link

xxp that really is not a question to ask an Autechre fan

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:12 (five years ago) link

don't get me wrong 28 officially released live albums is amazing, just imagine if they weren't all from the same tour though

frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 03:28 (five years ago) link

I quite agree, when I heard there was new stuff I thought great, a different set!

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 1 February 2019 04:13 (five years ago) link

Definitely want to grab the San Francisco one as I was there.

octobeard, Friday, 1 February 2019 07:38 (five years ago) link

Autechre the new Grateful Dead

Siegbran, Friday, 1 February 2019 07:46 (five years ago) link

Bellissimo

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 1 February 2019 07:51 (five years ago) link

haha yeah, the Pearl Jam / Autechre joke again

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 1 February 2019 09:38 (five years ago) link

ViVIvivvII+A70G

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 1 February 2019 09:40 (five years ago) link

t-shirts back in stock too.

koogs, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link

Aw, no physical release?

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 20:54 (five years ago) link

^^^^

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 February 2019 01:48 (five years ago) link

I'll have to follow this thread to see what the group loves most out of these 19 releases, then I'll...consider buying one or two? Would be more psyched if there was a physical release honestly. (And, fair enough, I did cop Elseq a few years back, but am trying to cop fewer things that are just collections of files)

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 February 2019 01:50 (five years ago) link

it does seem overwhelming

Dan S, Saturday, 2 February 2019 01:53 (five years ago) link

I really wish there was a physical version of Elseq. The NTS box set is so beautiful.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 2 February 2019 02:22 (five years ago) link

i do too, but groups like autechre need to fuck up every once in a while with their releases so that in the late 2020s when they finally release a physical copy we'll have reason to get pumped mid-2010's style

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 February 2019 03:06 (five years ago) link

yea the artwork for elseq kinda begs for a deluxe foldout vinyl

frogbs, Saturday, 2 February 2019 04:32 (five years ago) link

do all 28 share the same basic backing track & can they be mixed into 1?

StanM, Saturday, 2 February 2019 08:16 (five years ago) link

it’s more like they share similar progressions, but the guys shape the way that they evolve, when they transition, etc

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 2 February 2019 08:26 (five years ago) link

anyway you can play them all from the store website, so have a listen

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 2 February 2019 08:29 (five years ago) link

I'll have to follow this thread to see what the group loves most out of these 19 releases, then I'll...consider buying one or two? Would be more psyched if there was a physical release honestly. (And, fair enough, I did cop Elseq a few years back, but am trying to cop fewer things that are just collections of files)

― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Friday, February 1, 2019 8:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

came here to post p much these exact words

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 2 February 2019 13:47 (five years ago) link

there was an evolution in the first lot of live sets, more elements were gradually added to the mix. might start with the last of the new ones and see how different it is.

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Saturday, 2 February 2019 13:58 (five years ago) link

I am (with some regret) going to be honest with myself and pass on this entirely, even though $33 for roughly 28 hours of music is an excellent price. For one thing, I am way too busy to ever get around to listening to all or even a significant percentage of it, and for another, I just don't like music that comes in one-hour slabs. I like discrete tracks, preferably anywhere from three to ten minutes. So...nope.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 2 February 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link

Listening back to the Denver recording (we were there) - Ae's sets have definitely progressed somewhat from the European dates (Dublin + Utrecht are favorites), timbre-wise, and re: transitions in between 'parts'-- the general flow of things feels different ... seeing them live, it was was one of the most psychedelic sound experiences I've ever had.. quite a treat to be able to hear direct / desk recordings of that show. For $1.50

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:56 (five years ago) link

...for another, I just don't like music that comes in one-hour slabs. I like discrete tracks, preferably anywhere from three to ten minutes. So...nope.

― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, February 2, 2019 6:26 AM (eleven hours ago)

this doesn't seem like you at all to me! I've always admired your commitment to music that isn't accessible in small portions

although I agree with you that this seems like maybe too much of a time investment

Dan S, Sunday, 3 February 2019 02:38 (five years ago) link

For what it's worth, I kinda consider most of the post-Confield Ae albums (save for Quaristice \ 'versions') as whole "slabs" of almost continuous material. These live sets contain some of the rawest and most wholesome 'Autechre-speak', to my ears. It seems like they really honed the AE_LIVE material on these later USA dates... the textures are gorgeous. First four minutes of the Denver set is outta this world

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 3 February 2019 03:28 (five years ago) link

Denver is good, I think Chicago is the best I've heard so far though.

toby, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link

All 28 recordings are on Spotify! Elseq too. Just after I bought them all, oh well at least I've funded a takeaway or two for sean & rob.

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link

nice! having all of this available on spotify is so much more convenient for me

silverfish, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link

those four _s at the bottom of the autechre page keep changing (i think). currently they are pointing at different wetransfer pages with files called things like AE_LIVE_SETLIST_BACKUP_030308 which are descriptions of what is connected to what:

AeLive08 Set List

MIDI Routing: MachineDrum out to MonoMachine in. MonoMachine thru to MPC1K inA. MPC1K outA to NMG2 in. (BS3X out1 to MPC1K inB).

Audio Routing: MonoMachine outC/D to MachineDrum extinA/B.

Elektrons: Do not use Song Mode, use Pattern Mode only. MachineDrum: Do not use Classic Mode, use Extended Mode only.

Nord Modular G2 Patches: Load performance folder first, then load patchfile, enable Perf Mode.

and also snippets of what looks like a loose list of things to do.


Elektron Pattern BPM MPC Sequence MPC Mutes
A01 - MM/SPS 142 pref. 01 A_SHstRipRok_2br [SHstripl + build to SHstrock]
A02 - SPS fades in 02 A_SHsubzPlc_4br [SHubwafLo + build SHsubRave + build]
A04 - 03 A4_SHdufDyn_4br [SHzDufduf gseAx + build]
...
A11 - acid twangbass
...
D14 - rave verver
...
F01 - hyper carusel
...
H09 - binbanbin808

one of the bigger files had a bunch of short wav instrument samples in it and patches for a nord modular

koogs, Friday, 15 February 2019 10:07 (five years ago) link

I think you could tie in some of those pattern names to the live sets, would put money on rave verver = e.g. Krakow @ 18:55.

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Friday, 15 February 2019 10:33 (five years ago) link

it did make me think of your efforts to notate those first 9 live sets. but this is from 2008 (based on filename). would they be using the same components?

koogs, Friday, 15 February 2019 10:41 (five years ago) link

gosh darn it. well bladelores/all end shows they're not above code reuse but maybe not that much. who can say? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Friday, 15 February 2019 10:57 (five years ago) link

are autechre the original Extremely Online group?

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 February 2019 14:10 (five years ago) link

FSOL

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 15 February 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link

If running a popular BBS counts then Black Dog were extremely online before most.

*there's (Noel Emits), Friday, 15 February 2019 16:20 (five years ago) link

Kinda wish I had a Monomachine and MachineDrum just to load their set files. Not sure if it was here or somewhere else but there's a youtube video out there of someone playing with their patches on a Monomachine from that 2008 tour.

octobeard, Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69W6CwNWWrA
(short and noisy)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiFWYtgRBHk
(longer, better sound)

koogs, Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link

(raises the question as to whether something created using autechre's patches is autechre)

koogs, Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link

honestly i kind of expect that after the physical forms of Brown & Booth expire, their patches and algorithms will continue generating new music, virtually indistinguishable from their previous work, in some corner of the internet for eternity

Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

Forgot about this one, it's pretty good - intense but chill at the same time. And near enough the Public Enemy Security of the First World (aka Justify my Love) beat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1pJ-7GNV8

(6852 off Warp Records' Made in Japan compilation)

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Thursday, 21 February 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

whoa i've never heard this!!

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 22 February 2019 11:57 (five years ago) link

the beat is actually from here:

https://www.whosampled.com/The-Headhunters/God-Make-Me-Funky/

large bananas pregnant (ledge), Friday, 22 February 2019 12:10 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

so, payday and easter weekend means it's time to finally buy those live sets...

i got charged the full £31 for them, despite having the first nine already

and then they fail to download... pah.

koogs, Thursday, 18 April 2019 11:07 (five years ago) link

(i do appear to have a track called "sinistrail sentinel" in my account though, i don't remember paying for that. a freebie?)

koogs, Thursday, 18 April 2019 11:31 (five years ago) link

yeah it's an adult swim thing (whatever that means), was briefly discussed on one of the many ae threads.

what if bod was one of us (ledge), Thursday, 18 April 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link


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