Your 2020 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

i follow politics closely, and my only memory of lincoln chafee is that kyle mooney played him in a debate sketch

― my tweet portal is whack (voodoo chili), Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:58 AM (fifty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The one thing I remember about him is that one of his big policy positions was converting to the metric system.

In my mind, Chafee is played by Carson Kressley.

Simon Kamala talks a little bit about drug policy in her book:

"Something else it's past time we get done is dismantling the failed war on drugs—starting with legalizing marijuana," Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) writes in her new book. "We need to legalize marijuana and regulate it," Harris writes, pointing to racial disparities in cannabis enforcement. "And we need to expunge nonviolent marijuana-related offenses from the records of millions of people who have been arrested and incarcerated so they can get on with their lives.

When it comes to other drugs, the senator says "we also need to stop treating drug addiction like a public safety crisis instead of what it is: a public health crisis."

"When someone is suffering from addiction, their situation is made worse, not better, by involvement in the criminal justice system," she writes."

which, I'm sure someone will point out, is quite different from her public positions just 5 years ago but this just (yet again) illustrates my point that the best politicians are the ones that are able to adjust their positions to suit their constituents and the times.

simon kamala for pres imho

my point that the best politicians are the ones that are able to adjust their positions to suit their constituents and the times.

and what if she's lying her ass off now?

Politicians generally govern on the policies they run on to maintain the support of the people who voted for them. Maybe there are cases in history where someone did the dramatic heel turn and reversed a stance upon getting safely elected?

except in Morbz' world, where every politician is either a supervillain or a superhero

and what if she's lying her ass off now?

I mean really there's no logic here, who's to say she wasn't lying 5 years ago and her position now is her *actual* deeply held position? Maybe you should meet her and stare into her eyes so you can read her soul like Dubya would have.

Maybe there are cases in history where someone did the dramatic heel turn and reversed a stance upon getting safely elected?

Is this really that uncommon? I can think of several examples from Canadian politics.

Politicians generally govern on the policies they run on to maintain the support of the people who voted for them. Maybe there are cases in history where someone did the dramatic heel turn and reversed a stance upon getting safely elected?

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:55 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this happens all the time

xpost
yes but Canadians are a passionate, hot blooded people who often get swept up in the moment

I’m not sure of the value in trying to find moments from years ago when a candidate was in a different situation with a different political equation to cast aspersions. And there can be no possibility of explanation or forgiveness. And all that to completely ignore “hey what is she actually running on?”

it is obviously fair game to examine a politician’s record and weigh it against his or her campaign rhetoric

it’s clear harris is an excellent politician and is the type to be prepared with a great politician’s answer to all the usual tough questions. I’d personally appreciate a little more insight into why she feels those positions were wrong before and why she’s changed her mind aside from the changing political winds

This just happened with Trudeau on electoral reform and probably more I'm blanking on rn xps

hey Nerdstrom, Obama's 2008 'policies' included a buncha shit he never did.

where every politician is either a supervillain or a superhero

no, they're all assorted varieties of shit. It's what happens when you have to appeal to morons (somewhere between a third and half of the human race). People don't follow actual policy implementation bcz it's motherfucking boring.

just deliverin' some Realism milkshakes today

Xxpost “All the time “?

Perhaps maybe if you include stuff Obama didn’t actually run on

perhaps maybe you're an idiot

I have zero doubt Kamala Harris would be approximately one million times better as president than the shitstain currently occupying the WH, but that also goes for all of the others i guess.

Xpost name a single thing you had in mind with “it happens all the time”

yes, we all agree almost anyone would be a better prez than DJT, including prosecuting many of the same Forever Wars more efficiently.

now can you self-anointed experts all plz fuck off?

Liberals in Canada promised that if they won the last federal election in Canada it would be the last federal election in Canada under FPTP. This year's federal election will be under FPTP as they decided against electoral reform.

Obama pledged to close Guantánamo Bay.

Liberal Democrats in the UK ran on not raising VAT if they were elected, as part of the coalition government they voted to raise VAT.

Obama pledged to close Guantánamo Bay.

lol try harder

that was literally the first executive order he signed after being sworn in, and he was blocked by Congress.

which continued to fight him over it for his entire administration

read my lips

he didn't add "unless I am blocked by Congress."

also promised to walk a picket line with a union HAHAHAHAHA

also said he was "against stupid wars" and continued to wage about seven of them

also something about letting Dr Morbius choose his own doctor

that was literally the first executive order he signed after being sworn in, and he was blocked by Congress.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:21 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seem to remember obama having a democratic majority in the legislature for 2 years

I’d personally appreciate a little more insight into why she feels those positions were wrong before and why she’s changed her mind aside from the changing political winds

― k3vin k., Wednesday, January 30, 2019 11:06 AM (twenty minutes ago)

otm

Okay Ted Cruz

“also something about letting Dr Morbius choose his own doctor”

seem to remember obama having a democratic majority in the legislature for 2 years

yeah, and they fought him over it

hey like you never agree with the mass murderers in the CIA, right NP?

(ie dont be a pussy)

fuck all presidents really

wake me when it's over

Not reading any of the Canada or UK stuff.

Obama was critical of Iraq war but I remember him repeatedly promising to go after terrorists in Afghanistan

also promised to walk a picket line with a union

this is not a policy position fyi

if you can point me to Obama's anti-union legislation though let me know

Obama also drew down all our troops from Iraq (I know, Morbz thinks this war is still going on)

why am I bothering

I think we can be forgiven for a lack of clarity on which wars are or are not going on

WWII is still going on too iirc, after all we still have troops in Germany.

Not reading any of the Canada or UK stuff.

lol

when will Obama finally end the Korean War

seem to remember obama having a democratic majority in the legislature for 2 years

yeah, and they fought him over it

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:34 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

his administration also fought against transferring prisoners who had been cleared by the periodic review board despite that very transferring being their stated aim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

but yeah, it's not fair to call something a broken promise when it would have cost political capital to get it done

Obama was against the individual mandate

I don't think it was a question of political capital as much as Obama didn't have leverage over the hawks in his party who wanted to block him over it, and had the authority to do so. The president is not an autocrat.

and I thought the transfer thing was because the Senators of the states they were gonna get transferred to objected and blocked them

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius) at 11:07 30 Jan 19

just deliverin' some Realism milkshakes today


2 Morbz 1 Cup

gross

sorry shakes Puritanism is alive and well