I became suspicious there may be cops in our midst after listening to some of the records in the EOY rundown..
First they came for the good records and I said nothing because I was on holiday at the time, then they came for the coffee in Greggs, and I said nothing because the coffee in Greggs isn't bad actually for the price, then they came for warmth, charm, bonhomie and vibe and replaced them with amendments and corollaries
― saer, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 10:35 (five years ago) link
saer doesn't believe in music, people or good intentions.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 10:38 (five years ago) link
Re multiple placements, Kacey will def get at least 2 and The 1975 will get at least 3. could just as easily turn out to be 3 and 4 respectively
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 11:50 (five years ago) link
think popular artists should be excluded from the EOY polls altogether. We get to talk about them all year long anyway, it’s just not fair to the also-rans.
Now THIS is something I could get behind.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 12:57 (five years ago) link
cosign
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:00 (five years ago) link
1. Abolish nominations, just vote2. You get to nominate two other posters with your ballot - one gets triple their points on everything they nominated and the others are reduced by half (even if this means they end up getting 0.000001 points or whatever)3. Let a thousand flowers wilt
― nashwan, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:04 (five years ago) link
i like the esoteric poll that's been done post results the last few years, think it's fave album that only received 1 vote and it was a top 3 for that person
― nxd, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:07 (five years ago) link
still think we should have negative votes as well
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:08 (five years ago) link
1. Abolish nominations, just vote
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link
100 negative points to spend however we wish xp
― imago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link
Instead of negative votes (and artist poll, too redundant) ILM should just run a mini worst-tracks poll that could happen early January when we have the nominations list, while waiting for the rest. That way we can see if Drake really wins.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:47 (five years ago) link
best-EPs would also be a good category for the EOY... but hello genre-splitting.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:48 (five years ago) link
I _do_ run a worst tracks poll!Vote for the Worst Song of 2017
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:54 (five years ago) link
will likely set the 2018 one up next week.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:55 (five years ago) link
strong nay
just let ILM do its thing, the results are not going to be more interesting if they feature 77 unique lukewarm synth pop artists rather than 73
― ⅋ (crüt), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:08 (five years ago) link
lol otm
― imago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:08 (five years ago) link
oi
― my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link
No, but I'd be interested in seeing the difference in previous years' polls of that rule were in place, and how it would have changed the rollout. Maybe include it in the appendices with all the other extra data at the roll-out close?
Definitely interested in an artist 77 measuring "impact", whatever that criteria means.
― closed beta (NotEnough), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link
how hard they can drive their head through drywall
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:39 (five years ago) link
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses)
what do you have against drywall
an "esoteric" poll would be theoretically interesting, but i'm not sure we have the userbase to do it. sometimes "esoteric" means one really enthusiastic person, and polls don't really work for that
i say we abolish voting and let all eoy album decisions be made by a central committee, "democracy" is a capitalist sham
― The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link
nxd was talking about "esoteric" polls like this:Best album from the 2017 ILM EOY album poll that received only ONE top 3 weighted vote
― rob, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:04 (five years ago) link
drywall is a capitalist sham
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link
Surely anyone in favour of this could simply wait until the full results are revealed and then edit the list to their own satisfaction.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 31 January 2019 05:19 (five years ago) link
Nay.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 31 January 2019 10:38 (five years ago) link
for the record, if I have this right, here's what would have made the rollout this year if repeats were out. diverse!
Black Dresses - Thoughts and PrayersSun-El Musician ft. Simmy - SoniniKeyakizaka46 - Moumorihekaerouka?Yves Tumor - NoidMeg Baird and Mary Lattimore - Fair AnnieChildish Gambino - This Is AmericaKendrick Lamar & SZA - All the StarsBruno Mars ft. Cardi B - FinesseRaveena - HoneySOPHIE - FaceshoppingStephen Malkmus and the Jicks - Middle America
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:21 (five years ago) link
childish gambino not placing was worth it
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:22 (five years ago) link
I knew that was coming lol
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:23 (five years ago) link
also the spreadsheet docs were set up co copy/pasting was impossible so that third one was a real trial
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:24 (five years ago) link
Malkmus not placing wuz worth it!
― i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:39 (five years ago) link
― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, January 31, 2019 10:24 PM
There was a raw txt viewing option. Go look. You'll kick yourself.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 1 February 2019 03:51 (five years ago) link
lol
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:55 (five years ago) link
If you want 10 more entries for diversity, just present the top 87.
― Nabozo, Friday, 1 February 2019 09:20 (five years ago) link
or listen to more music!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 11:01 (five years ago) link
voted yes only because the worst placing evan-and-jaron-sounding 1975 song is extremely bad
― the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link
lol I voted no originally, but for real I think the 1975 might have just convinced me to change my mind.
― Roz, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link
Much as I was getting infuriated by the repeat placings of the 1975, I'm still a 'no'. If ILX wants to vote for four 1975 tracks then they can, I'm just gonna get a bit mad on-thread.
― emil.y, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link
same. even if it were two baby sharks
― they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link
whatabout 2 High and Drys, though
― the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:11 (five years ago) link
I believe ILX numerology requires the mystical number 77.
― jmm, Friday, 1 February 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link
would surely be baby shark, then mommy shark, daddy shark, grandma shark, etc
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:49 (five years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 21 February 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link
Nay
― we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Thursday, 21 February 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 22 February 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link
pretty definitive
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
as it should be
― breastcrawl, Friday, 22 February 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link
the world's greatest deliberative body
― j., Friday, 22 February 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link
people were asking about this / arguing again so I figured I'd give it a bump so ppl could be reminded how definitive this was
really not TOO many repeats this year, but two rock acts taking up over a tenth of the rollout was...a choice
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 31 January 2020 03:08 (four years ago) link
One batch was from the first album in forever from a beloved cult figure who (no need to say the rest);The other batch were from two separate albums by the best active rock band;Both somewhat unique situations. I could get behind the idea of prohibiting voters from voting for more than two (2) tracks from a single album, as discussed in the rollout thread (but not the measure proposed in this poll).
― dad genes (morrisp), Friday, 31 January 2020 03:22 (four years ago) link
(FWIW, I voted for one (1) track by each artist — their respective tracks which placed highest)
― dad genes (morrisp), Friday, 31 January 2020 03:23 (four years ago) link
I'm always a little disappointed because I would like to see more of my favorites show up, but the EOY tracks poll is what it is, a reflection of the year
― Dan S, Friday, 31 January 2020 03:27 (four years ago) link
The more ppl complain about this, the less I’m convinced it’s a problem. What if Purple Rain were released this year?Just roll out the top 100 (or, heck, anything that gets more than 1 vote); but announce the lower songs on the list in “chunks” or something, and without individualized artwork. You can’t please everyone!
― dad genes (morrisp), Friday, 31 January 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link
1999 was released this year and virtually nobody voted for it!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link
― nxd, Wednesday, January 30, 2019 7:07 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
i really like this too.
― budo jeru, Friday, 31 January 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link
People get soooooo pissy about tracks poll every single year, it's almost enough to justify one's belief in the innate superiority of the album format
― a thousand keening bullshit-detectors (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 31 January 2020 16:30 (four years ago) link
are we getting enough votes this past decade each year to expand the rollout to 100 tracks?
― nxd, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link
I'd like to stick to 77, as it's the special ILx number, and also 100 feels a bit much.
― emil.y, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link
agreed
― opden gnash (imago), Friday, 31 January 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link