be it resolved that the ILM EOY tracks poll institute a one-track-per-artist-per-rollout limit

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I became suspicious there may be cops in our midst after listening to some of the records in the EOY rundown..

First they came for the good records and I said nothing because I was on holiday at the time, then they came for the coffee in Greggs, and I said nothing because the coffee in Greggs isn't bad actually for the price, then they came for warmth, charm, bonhomie and vibe and replaced them with amendments and corollaries

saer, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 10:35 (five years ago) link

saer doesn't believe in music, people or good intentions.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 10:38 (five years ago) link

Re multiple placements, Kacey will def get at least 2 and The 1975 will get at least 3. could just as easily turn out to be 3 and 4 respectively

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 11:50 (five years ago) link

think popular artists should be excluded from the EOY polls altogether. We get to talk about them all year long anyway, it’s just not fair to the also-rans.

Now THIS is something I could get behind.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 12:57 (five years ago) link

cosign

pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:00 (five years ago) link

1. Abolish nominations, just vote
2. You get to nominate two other posters with your ballot - one gets triple their points on everything they nominated and the others are reduced by half (even if this means they end up getting 0.000001 points or whatever)
3. Let a thousand flowers wilt

nashwan, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:04 (five years ago) link

i like the esoteric poll that's been done post results the last few years, think it's fave album that only received 1 vote and it was a top 3 for that person

nxd, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:07 (five years ago) link

still think we should have negative votes as well

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:08 (five years ago) link

1. Abolish nominations, just vote

1.5 - Nashwan gets to tabulate the results

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link

100 negative points to spend however we wish xp

imago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:11 (five years ago) link

Instead of negative votes (and artist poll, too redundant) ILM should just run a mini worst-tracks poll that could happen early January when we have the nominations list, while waiting for the rest. That way we can see if Drake really wins.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:47 (five years ago) link

best-EPs would also be a good category for the EOY... but hello genre-splitting.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:48 (five years ago) link

I _do_ run a worst tracks poll!
Vote for the Worst Song of 2017

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:54 (five years ago) link

will likely set the 2018 one up next week.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 13:55 (five years ago) link

strong nay

just let ILM do its thing, the results are not going to be more interesting if they feature 77 unique lukewarm synth pop artists rather than 73

⅋ (crüt), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:08 (five years ago) link

lol otm

imago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:08 (five years ago) link

oi

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link

No, but I'd be interested in seeing the difference in previous years' polls of that rule were in place, and how it would have changed the rollout. Maybe include it in the appendices with all the other extra data at the roll-out close?

Definitely interested in an artist 77 measuring "impact", whatever that criteria means.

closed beta (NotEnough), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link

how hard they can drive their head through drywall

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:39 (five years ago) link

how hard they can drive their head through drywall

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses)

what do you have against drywall

an "esoteric" poll would be theoretically interesting, but i'm not sure we have the userbase to do it. sometimes "esoteric" means one really enthusiastic person, and polls don't really work for that

i say we abolish voting and let all eoy album decisions be made by a central committee, "democracy" is a capitalist sham

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link

nxd was talking about "esoteric" polls like this:
Best album from the 2017 ILM EOY album poll that received only ONE top 3 weighted vote

rob, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:04 (five years ago) link

drywall is a capitalist sham

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link

Surely anyone in favour of this could simply wait until the full results are revealed and then edit the list to their own satisfaction.

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 31 January 2019 05:19 (five years ago) link

Nay.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 31 January 2019 10:38 (five years ago) link

for the record, if I have this right, here's what would have made the rollout this year if repeats were out. diverse!

Black Dresses - Thoughts and Prayers
Sun-El Musician ft. Simmy - Sonini
Keyakizaka46 - Moumorihekaerouka?
Yves Tumor - Noid
Meg Baird and Mary Lattimore - Fair Annie
Childish Gambino - This Is America
Kendrick Lamar & SZA - All the Stars
Bruno Mars ft. Cardi B - Finesse
Raveena - Honey
SOPHIE - Faceshopping
Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks - Middle America

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:21 (five years ago) link

childish gambino not placing was worth it

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:22 (five years ago) link

I knew that was coming lol

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:23 (five years ago) link

also the spreadsheet docs were set up co copy/pasting was impossible so that third one was a real trial

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:24 (five years ago) link

Malkmus not placing wuz worth it!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:39 (five years ago) link

also the spreadsheet docs were set up co copy/pasting was impossible so that third one was a real trial

― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, January 31, 2019 10:24 PM

There was a raw txt viewing option. Go look. You'll kick yourself.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 1 February 2019 03:51 (five years ago) link

lol

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 03:55 (five years ago) link

If you want 10 more entries for diversity, just present the top 87.

Nabozo, Friday, 1 February 2019 09:20 (five years ago) link

or listen to more music!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 11:01 (five years ago) link

voted yes only because the worst placing evan-and-jaron-sounding 1975 song is extremely bad

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

lol I voted no originally, but for real I think the 1975 might have just convinced me to change my mind.

Roz, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link

Much as I was getting infuriated by the repeat placings of the 1975, I'm still a 'no'. If ILX wants to vote for four 1975 tracks then they can, I'm just gonna get a bit mad on-thread.

emil.y, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link

same. even if it were two baby sharks

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Friday, 1 February 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link

whatabout 2 High and Drys, though

the real indie runs (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:11 (five years ago) link

If you want 10 more entries for diversity, just present the top 87.

I believe ILX numerology requires the mystical number 77.

jmm, Friday, 1 February 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link

would surely be baby shark, then mommy shark, daddy shark, grandma shark, etc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 3 February 2019 19:49 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 21 February 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

Nay

we're far from the challops now (voodoo chili), Thursday, 21 February 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 22 February 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

pretty definitive

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link

as it should be

breastcrawl, Friday, 22 February 2019 15:37 (five years ago) link

the world's greatest deliberative body

j., Friday, 22 February 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

people were asking about this / arguing again so I figured I'd give it a bump so ppl could be reminded how definitive this was

really not TOO many repeats this year, but two rock acts taking up over a tenth of the rollout was...a choice

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 31 January 2020 03:08 (four years ago) link

One batch was from the first album in forever from a beloved cult figure who (no need to say the rest);

The other batch were from two separate albums by the best active rock band;

Both somewhat unique situations.

I could get behind the idea of prohibiting voters from voting for more than two (2) tracks from a single album, as discussed in the rollout thread (but not the measure proposed in this poll).

dad genes (morrisp), Friday, 31 January 2020 03:22 (four years ago) link

(FWIW, I voted for one (1) track by each artist — their respective tracks which placed highest)

dad genes (morrisp), Friday, 31 January 2020 03:23 (four years ago) link

I'm always a little disappointed because I would like to see more of my favorites show up, but the EOY tracks poll is what it is, a reflection of the year

Dan S, Friday, 31 January 2020 03:27 (four years ago) link

The more ppl complain about this, the less I’m convinced it’s a problem. What if Purple Rain were released this year?

Just roll out the top 100 (or, heck, anything that gets more than 1 vote); but announce the lower songs on the list in “chunks” or something, and without individualized artwork. You can’t please everyone!

dad genes (morrisp), Friday, 31 January 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link

1999 was released this year and virtually nobody voted for it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

i like the esoteric poll that's been done post results the last few years, think it's fave album that only received 1 vote and it was a top 3 for that person

― nxd, Wednesday, January 30, 2019 7:07 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

i really like this too.

budo jeru, Friday, 31 January 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link

People get soooooo pissy about tracks poll every single year, it's almost enough to justify one's belief in the innate superiority of the album format

a thousand keening bullshit-detectors (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 31 January 2020 16:30 (four years ago) link

are we getting enough votes this past decade each year to expand the rollout to 100 tracks?

nxd, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link

I'd like to stick to 77, as it's the special ILx number, and also 100 feels a bit much.

emil.y, Friday, 31 January 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

agreed

opden gnash (imago), Friday, 31 January 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link


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