sounds like a GREAT PLAN!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Another example noted by the campaign was voting for defense cuts during the Reagan administration, and voting against the first Gulf war in 1991. (PolitiFact.com points out that he voted with the majority of Senate Democrats on the resolution.)
lolz - I mean the first Gulf War was fucking stupid and voting against it is totally defensible but way to screw up your facts ahead of time guys
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link
That's not a bad plan for her, honestly: if her main liability is looking a bit confused and underinformed when pressed on issues, it make sense to take the attack-dog position, because you can't look confused or underinformed when you're lunging at someone. (Also she's allowed to lunge at Biden in ways he's not allowed to lunge at her, so why not.)
― nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link
woohoo
is this on at 2am uk time again? I have a 6 pack of tiger and 10 lights, and I'm settling in for the fireworks
― STINKING CORPSE (cozwn), Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm gonna stay up (somehow). I think it's gonna be on BBC news24?
― Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link
if biden isn't solid this could be pretty anti-climactic. if he doesn't veer off course to school her or attack her, but just trusts that the disparity between them will be so apparent that no one will be able to apologize for palin tomorrow, or likewise attack biden for anything, that would be ideal.
― rent, Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
if biden isnt solid it will probably still be entertaining and climactic imo
― joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Well hey ain't that a shocker that the McCain campaign asked that the post-answer give-and-take "talk to him / her" portion of the debate Q&A be reduced from five minutes to two.
I'm kinda hoping she tries to bring cue cards to to podium.
― David R., Thursday, 2 October 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
yes "to to" that is correct
i'm just afraid that this will be anti-climactic, really. i was so pumped for obama/mccain and that was pretty devoid of entertainment (which is what the debates are for, really). and now i'm getting excited to see a historic roasting and if it turns into a back-and-forth that isn't OBVIOUSLY lopsided, i will be disappointed. i would like biden to bring the zing, but if he gets goofy, and palin is palin, then the vp debate will seem like it should be soundtracked with benny hill, and they might as well just start running around shooting toy guns at each other.
― rent, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess that sounds pretty good too now that i consider it
― rent, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, Gwen Ifill sure is excited:
http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/123073/2180604/2201432/081002_EX_ifillEX.jpg
― jaymc, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Plouffe protests
David Plouffe spoke to reporters just now, my colleague Victoria McGrane reports, previewing the debate.
After repeatedly calling Palin first “an extremely good debater,” then a “great” one, at the end he ramped it up to “Gov. Palin is one of the best debaters in American politics,” at which point the press gaggle interrupted him with its laughter. “No, she is! Her 2006 debate, she knew where she wanted to take every question, and so I think she’ll be relentlessly on message tonight and again I’m sure she’ll have any number of biting and witty one-liners but our focus is on the person sitting at home in Canton, Ohio, tonight, Akron, Ohio tonight, struggling economically. Who is delivering a message about an agenda that is going to most positively impact their lives,” he said.
He also criticized McCain’s comments this morning about Gwen Ifill’s Obama book as “another in a long line of manufactured controversy.”
“They are a campaign that’s filled with distractions, and trying to manufacture news to try to quote-unquote ‘make news cycles.’ We’re very consistent; we’re trying to drive a message, articulate where Barack Obama and Joe Biden would take the country. We think that at the end of the day we’ll be rewarded for that consistency,” he said.
“We think that consistency matters in politics and I think there’s been an erraticness in the McCain campaign over the last 10 days that I think has puzzled voters. So we’ll see what Gov. Palin does tonight," he said.
― joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Plouffe is awesome
― gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link
idle speculation: is it possible that Palin's injury - apparently she hurt her hand at McCain's ranch and will be bandaged - is to neutralize criticism of her if she goes after wheelchair-bound Ifill?
― gabbneb, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link
ask Obama and his sergeant's bracelet.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
she knew where she wanted to take every question
^^ this is a great use of the English language
― nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link
the ascii porn of this exists somewhere i'm sure of it
― BIG HAT like hoos (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 2 October 2008 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.palinbingo.com/
― omar little, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
"No, she is!"
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
the palin flute footage was killing me last night on the news. from now on if an election thread starts stressing you out, just take a flute break.
― scott seward, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
omg that is... omg
She should have done a duet with trumpet Star Wars girl.
― i am the small cat (HI DERE), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha, that very joke was made on Idolator, Dan...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.cliffordmeth.com/files/ian_tull.jpg
ROCK N ROLL!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I just drove by Wash u. There were people protesting in polar bear costumes O_O
I wonder if either candidate will go after the locals by calling it Warsh U.
― bnw, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link
re: jitters [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
An e-mail: " I'm easing the jitters by playing a little game: Trying to think up the questions Gwen Ifill is likely to ask tonight. First one on my list is: Senator Biden, Ms. Palin, how would you assess the historical significance of America's first African American candidate for president?"
10/02 06:28 PM
― joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link
lolz KJL trying really hard to "think like a black lady" there or what?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
aww she has a little game
― i'm a shop btw (jeff), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
these guys are retarded
Ifill and Republican Wimps [Peter Kirsanow]
As I noted below, whether Ifill betrays a bias in favor of Obama/Biden tonight is somewhat beside the point. I'll bet that it will be hard to detect any bias in the questions she asks or the manner in which she asks them. And that's precisely why her evident conflict of interest is so insidious. It's more often the questions that aren't asked that betray bias and unfairness.
― joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link
first she counts the number of times she can bounce the ball in an hour, and then she tries to beat that number
x-posts
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link
her evident conflict of interest is so insidious.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link
"lolz KJL trying really hard to "think like a black lady" there or what?"
Hey that was an email from a reader not KJL (she just reposted it!)
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
It's a reference to her book, Shakey
― nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Or at least the kind benefit-of-the-doubt way of reading it is that it's a joke about the book
― nabisco, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link
http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/1acardgwen.jpg
― joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
It's more often the questions that aren't asked that betray bias and unfairness.
Governor Palin, please share with us, in what ways do you believe that pageants build character?
― rogermexico., Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/music/ny-etrick1002,0,5492521.story
after the win he can bow out knowing the internet is in capable, milflifluous hands
― hoops (tremendoid), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
"lulzy"
rong thread no?
― Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i meant to post this
― hoops (tremendoid), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link
nu-code is killing flute rolling
― hoops (tremendoid), Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
flute roffling?
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
that flute footage made me actually cry with joy.
― estela, Thursday, 2 October 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
New ILX buzzwords: "flute roffle."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
does palinbingo work for anyone else? not me.
― Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean, does the page load?
― Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link
im still waiting on some good drinking game rules that don't involve palin naming all of her kids or talking about putin again. i wanna get drunk tonight guys and i don't want it all to be from biden's scranton and amtrak references.
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
take a drink every time you are not currently drinking
works for me
― i'm a shop btw (jeff), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
She could name Supreme Court cases from the Charles Evan Hughes era.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link
The flute footage seemed like an outtake from Carrie, I kept waiting for the bucket of blood to fall on her head.
― Nicole, Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Her favourite artist...James Galway.
― jane hussein lane (suzy), Thursday, 2 October 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link