let’s play as spider-man in SPIDER-MAN, insomniac’s game about spider-man starring spider-man

I mean the other answer, I assume, is that games have a pretty hefty lead up time in production, just to get to the point where you can start making content - so if the game was half as long it would still cost 80% as much. And a lot of loud video games fans have opinions on value for money.

ya down with dlc?

love this game, not sure I'm willing to pay £6.49 for another "chapter"

waiting for a discount on the pass myself

me too.

just beat the game, very much enjoyed it, but deleted it about 20 mins later to make room. too much to play, sorry dlc!

Bought this Sunday, actually got dizzy swinging to the first mission, and was overwhelmed with all the button prompts during the combat. #lolold

My biggest problem has been letting enough time go between plays (which haven't been that many, tbh, for no good reason, it's a great game) that I forget what everything does and which buttons do what. I have found that the game is pretty forgiving when it comes to frenetic and ungraceful button mashing, though.

The combat is finally clicking for me! Having loads of fun now, though catching pigeon is annoying.

the combat is so goddamned good. i’d end up LOOKING for tough bases to take down.

I bought a physical copy of this and like two weeks later the optical drive on my PS4 crapped out :(

Thought this was a lot of fun. Really the best you could hope for in a game where you are the Spider-Man.

Heh, I had a physical copy that I just sold last week and replaced with a digital copy, figuring I'd be more likely to play it if I didn't have to fuss with a disc (and because it seems like the sort of game that works well in shorts bursts)

I've been laughably bad at the sneaking missions, I've yet to avoid kicking boxes so far, I know the bad guys don't notice it when I do but it's still hilariously jarring.

Anyone want to buy this off me?

well this is weird

https://www.engadget.com/peter-parker-recast-spider-man-remastered-215023780.html

looks more like tom holland

yea it's very weird and feels kinda unnecessary when they could've simply upscaled the old model but *shrug*

I don't get the logic of "we wanted him to look like This Guy so we
modelled him on This Other Guy!"

Or am I misreading?

Played the first hour or so of Miles Morales. As expected, it's great. What I didn't expect is that they've definitely optimized the engine since the DLC came out, it runs smoother! Also cracked up when I saw the Spider-verse "filter" in action.

omg can’t wait for that. as soon as i got the 2-d vintage stan lee comics suit in the first game i wore it all the time.

when you play as Stan Lee does it erase the credit scroll of all the writers and designers and animators if you finish the game, and just show you dancing around saying "I made this!," with occasional cutscenes of you going to court to testify against all the programmers you fired?

yes

when i said 'suit' i meant 'lawsuit'

How different a game is it to the last Spidey?

Is it more of the sake but shinier? (because I'm in)

Or does it feel like a whole new game? (because I'm in)

definitely more of the same, which is totally fine in this case. This is basically Spider-Man 1.5
Miles does have new powers Peter didn't have, and there's some subtle nice QOL changes but I can't quite remember offhand
also new Peter face still really weird

thank you

I'm in!

I recently played through the 'city that never sleeps' DLC stories for the last game as it was v cheap in a sale. I really got into the game again as the cannon fodder had better cannons and all the difficulty felt tweaked up just enough to make it more interesting but not too much to put an old gamer off

fuck an 'MJ sneaking around' mission forever btw

lol. very “dragonlance” those scenes.

the MJ stuff was the most gaming broccoli of gender equality ever
if you really want to even the field a bit just give us an option where I can play as Spectacular Spider Jane and my intrepid reporter boyfriend Peter is in all the cutscenes.

Idk if I'll ever be able to shake the term gaming broccoli from my mind now

sorry?

No it's very good

i think we could make a pretty solid list of gaming broccoli.
Final Fantasy character customization screens come to mind immediately.
maybe worth a thread?

I'm 100% in on that thread once I process it fully and have examples. It's def a vibe I know well

any and all escort missions

i'm defining it in my head as "necessary and unavoidable play activity included by designers for [fullness of experience / game balance / inclusivity / customization / anticipation for the next climax / lore building] that is, nevertheless, not fun"

i'm not sure you can avoid adding some broccoli in almost any game
like you wouldn't think Mortal Kombat has any but then you remember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfwTG1EvL2c

gaming broccoli is a great term. especially as a category it generates some interesting onward thinking (is the way kojima serves his broccoli the main part of what makes his games distinctive? because *so much broccoli* you could even argue he made a virtue of it in death stranding).

but yeah, how do we get the action/character from a-b, i suppose we’d better make this mission an escort mission, let’s send the character here before they can encounter x boss or get y upgrade, or *time for a laborious info dump to explain stoopid premise of the next mission. all classics of their genre.

I'm not sure that I'd find the term that useful (sorry forks) - I mean FFVII arguably is a materia management sim with some very large mini games - is the story broccoli?

And most stealth sections levered in are less "we should do this" and more "we have to expand this sequel, what are the kids into".

So I'd see (keeping on that kind of example) the Spyro sequels where the charging around and head butting / flaming things is interspersed with dull levels where you have to play other characters - I'd see a line separating that from the Starcraft missions where there's no new resources, you have a small team in an enemy base and you'll get reinforcements at specific points. The latter seems a lot more like "what does our toolkit allow us to do?"

But maybe I'm wrong, maybe Insomniac had a burning desire for more Sheila the Kangaroo, and Blizzard had to be forced at gunpoint to make soloish levels so that the players had heroes to 'identify with'.

I've probably mentioned before but I was overjoyed to get to the bottom of the high-up dungeon on the home island in Wind Waker, because the game gave me the thing I went in there for, and a portal out, AND an entrance to more levels!

Which yeah, you like a game if you like the gameplay, but the concept of gameplay isn't a monolith. After I finished Ico, I hipped a friend to it, and she came round to play it. She really loved it - apart from the bits where you whacked at the shadow kids with your sword, where she'd hand the controller back to me. But the fighting parts are still part of the game, and contribute to the tone (and mounting horror), right?

I'm hesitant to push this theory too far, as the end point may be the claim that watching a progress bar fill is protected gameplay, which is basically the Anti-Life Equation.

i dont think story/cutscenes are ever broccoli unless they're interrupting a good gameplay sequence and breaking up your flow

Spidey But Better is like Spidey, but better!

I really like the new supercharge not-stolen-from-infamous power but not had much fun with my invisibility cloak yet.

Early days yet so I have lots to work out with gadgets and upgrades and skill trees.

Looks nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrPZSq5YXqc

did they remember to put spider-man in this one?

goddamn it now i have to get a PS5

i for one am excited to play as play as spider-man 2 in SPIDER-MAN 2, insomniac’s game about spider-man 2 starring two spider-men

Look Who's Spider-Man Too!

Spider-Man all symbiote'd out fighting Kraven? Sure, why not

lol the story and cut-scenes in this are so shit

so glad they inserted a walking simulator section where you clean the kitchen

The first game or the second (or Miles)? I think I read that the sequel cost significantly more than the first game, like triple, and also that the game, despite strong sales, hasn't come close to breaking even. But I've also heard that it looks and plays more or less the same, or at least as more of the same, which is fine by me. I liked Spider-man, but I think I have low game standards.