Vampire Weekend - Father of the Bride

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kinda deflated that this is where their production ended up after modern vampires tbh

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:22 (nine months ago) link

That's what happens after six years. Imagine if they'd issued their Aerial.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:23 (nine months ago) link

i've seen a few folks around the internet suggesting that HH sounds too MOR or commercial

what specifically is it about the older records that kept them from feeling commercial/MOR? the highlife guitar? the synths on contra? the distortion on MVOTC?

i think the song rules personally but i'm also fascinated by the social baggage certain sounds accumulate in peoples' minds

james brooks, Thursday, 24 January 2019 19:53 (nine months ago) link

kinda disappointed by both. HH leaning on recycling a previous song's refrain is just distracting.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:07 (nine months ago) link

Dig both of these songs. Can't wait to listen again when I'm not at my work computer with mediocre headphones.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:13 (nine months ago) link

I didn't hear "Finger Back" until someone pointed out, actually.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:14 (nine months ago) link

Aw... I was so excited to hear new stuff from them AT LAST !
But very disappointed... HH sounds like the opening song for a 90s romcom...

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:18 (nine months ago) link

kinda disappointed by both. HH leaning on recycling a previous song's refrain is just distracting.


This is still so weird to me. Is there a precedent for this? It’s not like they interpolated a rare b side or outtake (and they have very few), it’s on their last album.

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:04 (nine months ago) link

rappers do it all the time

the problem with it in this case is that now Fingerback is stuck in my head, not HH

Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 January 2019 21:22 (nine months ago) link

xpost on Ottoman, Ezra recycled the "feels so unnatural, Peter Gabriel too" line from Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa

J. Sam, Thursday, 24 January 2019 22:15 (nine months ago) link

this is a much better pair of singles than the first two we got for MVOTC

ufo, Thursday, 24 January 2019 22:35 (nine months ago) link

uh neither of these touch “step”

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:10 (nine months ago) link

otm

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:11 (nine months ago) link

Who ever said HH sounded like Touch of Grey is way too otm

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:34 (nine months ago) link

Seriously that solo tho

Like both these songs

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:37 (nine months ago) link

xpost on Ottoman, Ezra recycled the "feels so unnatural, Peter Gabriel too" line from Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa


that was a B side, not a lead single

rappers do a lot of things VW don’t

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:37 (nine months ago) link

I’m not annoyed just perplexed, and as a meta touch within the context of the double LP might be cool

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 January 2019 23:38 (nine months ago) link

whether or not it works is up for debate but it seemed pretty obvious to me that that was done for artistic effect

iatee, Friday, 25 January 2019 00:03 (nine months ago) link

i actually really liked "Harmony Hall" on first listen. not sure why it's so unlike around here.

Bee OK, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:11 (nine months ago) link

i think everything everyone is picking out in harmony hall (the solo, the dead vibe, the piano, the meta chorus) has been done with extreme intent. it's an incredible song and i hope the rest of the album is this worked over because that's what vw does really well.

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:34 (nine months ago) link

it's very pretty

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 25 January 2019 02:51 (nine months ago) link

yeah i'm liking it despite going in skeptical that they could make me care again

ciderpress, Friday, 25 January 2019 03:35 (nine months ago) link

i don't hate it!

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 04:03 (nine months ago) link

I expected to not care one bit about this, but HH is a very nice song that I might listen to a dozen times over the course of my life.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:05 (nine months ago) link

"harmony hall" is a little fractured structurally and some of the vocal parts are not his best, but i personally love the production

that said i like "2021" better

it all kinda reminds me of dirty projectors a bit, at least as far as the guitars go

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 January 2019 04:05 (nine months ago) link

& i guess longstreth played on hh

J0rdan S., Friday, 25 January 2019 04:07 (nine months ago) link

After a few more plays of HH, it's not as bad as I first thought.
I still don't find it great (nowhere near their previous singles) and am still disappointed after 6 years but the production/arrangements are more vivid than on MVOTC and it does sound good (especially the bass/drums with a kinda madchester groove !).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:34 (nine months ago) link

Loving 'Harmony Hall', like you know how when bands try and do a 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' thing and it's usually rubbish? This actually pulls it off.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:42 (nine months ago) link

I liked 'Modern Vampires' a lot as well but I feel like another indie pop record with multicoloured synths and huge clattery drums is the last thing the world needs right now.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:45 (nine months ago) link

re: madchester and "you can't always get what you want" i definitely thought of "movin' on up" on first listen

"harmony hall" feels exactly where they should be at this point in their career - a little more relaxed & not as frantic or with as much of the tightly wound baroque flourishes, a good way to mature

ufo, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:58 (nine months ago) link

Yeah MVOTC lacked the baroque keyboards/strings as well as the afro guitar licks and a general lightness.
It's good if they go back to these key aspects of their sound.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 10:38 (nine months ago) link

MVOTC still had some of the baroque aspect ("step" and "don't lie" especially, which were some of the stronger tracks) but lacked that general lightness from the afro guitar etc. and i think that contrast was fairly key to the first two albums. "harmony hall" is a return to that lightness but not quite to the same degree which is what i like about it

ufo, Friday, 25 January 2019 11:14 (nine months ago) link

yes, I totally agree.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 25 January 2019 11:30 (nine months ago) link

All I can think about is how Brad Paisley married the actress from Father of the Bride and then wrote a song about how he married the actress from Father of the Bride and titled it Back to the Future.

peace, man, Friday, 25 January 2019 13:58 (nine months ago) link

Liking "Harmony Hall" a lot. It hits enough positive touchstones for me ("Movin' on Up" was the one that immediately came to mind) and combines them in an interesting and catchy enough way to stand apart. I also didn't notice the "Finger Back" quote until reading it here, but that's not one of my favorite songs on MVOTC. "2021" doesn't do much for me, but seems like a song that may have more purpose for the flow of an album

Vinnie, Saturday, 26 January 2019 02:45 (nine months ago) link

k nvm i love both of these. excited for the rest of the album!!!

flopson, Saturday, 26 January 2019 03:09 (nine months ago) link

2021 sounds kinda 1975

flopson, Monday, 28 January 2019 03:30 (nine months ago) link

Feels like a slight move back towards the bubbly synthetic touches of Contra. Is it me or has his voice/singing changed (seems a bit more generic somehow)?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:31 (nine months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkPWqnTWj38

flappy bird, Monday, 28 January 2019 17:25 (nine months ago) link

Wow he still looks so juvenile. I could say he’s like 22 or something !
Will watch the whole intw later, thanks for posting it.
As for his singing/voice on HH, I find it’s the same as it was. Same inflexions and even melodic touches.
But the generic/MOR impression might come from the melodies that I find a bit lazy (hence my initial comparison with a 90s romcom opening song !).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:03 (nine months ago) link

what happened to his hair and sartorial sense :(

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:13 (nine months ago) link

The intro and verses are very nice (both melody and guitar licks). The chorus and instrumental chorus are feel good enough and by the final it’s groovy/fun. The piano and guitar solos are great. The prechorus is the part I don’t enjoy much.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:14 (nine months ago) link

I think it’s just his « radio » look !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:18 (nine months ago) link

his hair looks the same

flappy bird, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:23 (nine months ago) link

he once believed in gel

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:25 (nine months ago) link

He probably knew he'd be wearing headphones that day, and planned accordingly.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 January 2019 19:11 (nine months ago) link

He's 34 years old and has a brand new baby. He's probably past the hair gel and boat shoes? (Also, who cares?)

alpine static, Monday, 28 January 2019 19:52 (nine months ago) link

I actually think he wears his pyjamas in that radio intw !
Especially as they say it's very early in the morning...

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 11:19 (nine months ago) link

(Also, who cares?)

ahem

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 11:21 (nine months ago) link

To stay on sartorial issues : the baggy flashy sweatpants here are a strange combination with the with shirt/overcoat...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDLZ90Oc8FY

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 11:28 (nine months ago) link

and what's your point, sailor?

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 24, 2019 9:59 PM (two days ago)

it's annoying and you should stop

alpine static, Monday, 27 May 2019 06:34 (five months ago) link

No more than anyone else. If you're unsure about your opinions, then it's your problem.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 10:49 (five months ago) link

What a bizarre thing to complain about on a message board.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 10:49 (five months ago) link

I like this album a lot and still listen to it regularly but somehow, the main effect this whole release campaign has had on me is making me rediscover... Dylan's "Jokerman" (and the accompanying album) !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 11:00 (five months ago) link

I was surprised to hear Ariel Rechtshaid refer to Ya Hey as a reggae song. It doesn't feel reggae at all to me. Am I mad?

in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 27 May 2019 13:02 (five months ago) link

hum. It is a little, yeah. The bassline/rhythm.
Even Ezra's delivery, actually !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 13:59 (five months ago) link

And the namedrop 'Israelites'

Frederik B, Monday, 27 May 2019 14:14 (five months ago) link

yes, of course !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 14:27 (five months ago) link

Basically, if you just throw in the typical reggae guitar rhythmic lick, you get a reggae song.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 14:29 (five months ago) link

(And the shaker plays that guitar rhythm)

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 15:49 (five months ago) link

Actually « Gold Rush » is a reggae too !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 27 May 2019 15:51 (five months ago) link

What a bizarre thing to complain about on a message board.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 May 2019 12:49 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's just your opinion, man!

dorsalstop, Monday, 27 May 2019 16:16 (five months ago) link

Basically, if you just throw in the typical reggae guitar rhythmic lick, you get a reggae song.

― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, May 27, 2019 3:29 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can imagine that "chick-eh" guitar part but without it I just feel it as four on the floor, references to Babylon and "The Israelites" notwithstanding.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 06:43 (five months ago) link

Oh I agree. Before that mention upthread I had never thought of that song as a reggae song.
But now, with that in mind, I can't hear it another way !
If you consider the shaker's rhythm, the drums that has a reggae groove, not a disco type 4 on the floor, the use of the reverb and most importantly, the syncopated bass line on the verses and Ezra's delivery and pronounciation (+ the lexical field :zion, babylon, israelites...), it's clear !
Actually, it's a pretty amazing production/arrangements to make a reggae song that no-one will notice...

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 07:54 (five months ago) link

maybe i'd find the groove on "ya hey" less awkward if they'd committed to the reggae thing on it more strongly, i can hear what they were going for now but it doesn't quite get there for me

ufo, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 10:27 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Finally listened to this last night and it was nice but sorta breezed by without catching my attention much. Last track is great.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:57 (four months ago) link

Saw them in Dublin on Monday and they were absolutely excellent. Great set mixing all four records. None of the duets.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:44 (four months ago) link

I've found a kind of chamber version of "This Life" on Spotify which is minor but still very charming and different from the original version.
Also, I have watched their Glastonbury set on youtube and it's pretty good.
The highlights for me were the brilliant intro to "White Sky" and the version of "Jerusalem, NY, Berlin" with the long outro.
I love the album version but that final bit adds something very moving.
They didn't play a lot from FotB though (but surprisingly opened with "Sympathy").

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:39 (four months ago) link

The White Sky intro is absolutely fucking great! They opened with 6/7 minute version of Sunflower in Dublin, which was whopper.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 21:15 (four months ago) link

Yeah, they played that version of Sunflower at Roskilde as well. Missed White Sky :(

Frederik B, Thursday, 11 July 2019 06:42 (four months ago) link

About "White Sky" : yeah, the moment you realize what song they are playing is pure joy !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 11 July 2019 08:41 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Seeing them at MSG tomorrow. They are doing a free livestream of it

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 6 September 2019 02:02 (two months ago) link

saw them last night - great show. they played a streets of philadelphia cover the crowd loved it

Mordy, Friday, 6 September 2019 02:21 (two months ago) link

I’m guessing maybe they play a Billy Joel cover tonight

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 6 September 2019 10:26 (two months ago) link

They seem to be big into Springsteen these days. They've covered "I'm Going Down" and "Atlantic City," and Koenig said he wanted FOTB to feel kind of like The River.

Lily Dale, Friday, 6 September 2019 16:28 (two months ago) link

also seeing them at the garden tonight.

the album holds up really well imo.

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:53 (two months ago) link

this rainy friday afternoon is also the first time i've really embraced the mccartney-esque schmaltz of 'my mistake'

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 September 2019 21:02 (two months ago) link

live stream was only available in the US ffs

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 7 September 2019 08:09 (two months ago) link

Awesome show !

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 7 September 2019 14:04 (two months ago) link

indeed it was, they did a good job of stretching out their songs for a live setting. helps to have virtuosos on the guitar and keys.

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:53 (two months ago) link

https://youtu.be/GXzfOsuyATc

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 8 September 2019 00:06 (two months ago) link

they sound incredible as a live band these days

ufo, Sunday, 8 September 2019 04:02 (two months ago) link

yes, really one of the best sounding shows i've seen in a big venue.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:12 (two months ago) link

man, that msg show is some serious well-oiled machine shit. wow.

(i mean that in a good way)

alpine static, Monday, 9 September 2019 20:58 (two months ago) link


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