TRUE DETECTIVE season 3

Otoh prejudice and satanic panic was what lead echolls to be questioned in the first place so it would be disingenuous to say satanic panic played no role in the case

really doubt they'd be so dumb as to misfire in this way but I had a fleeting moment of worry thinking "oh no, what if Pizzolatto thought it'd be edgy to do a satanic panic plot... but it's all true"

well either he's bluffing or...

People have noted the comparison to the West Memphis 3 “Satanic panic” case, how of much of that is an inspiration if any?

Not at all. You’re moved off that pretty quickly. It’s really not informed by that.

good

the dialogue in this show is very bad.

the first date scene in the latest episode was a case in point.

yeah lots of cringeworthy dialog in that episode unfortunately

- so you're a catholic, eh
- yeah. you?
- baptist
- I knew a baptist guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares out window and quietly makes a gun shot sound**

hahaha

imagine a guy from arkansas saying "knew a baptist guy in vietnam" in the first place. like you knew plenty of baptist folks in general you're form arkansas ffs

I bought it as a thing he says to all baptists

or maybe even more generally, say at the grocery store:

- twinkies, eh?
- yeah.
- more of ho ho man myself
- I knew a ho ho guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares at magazine rack and quietly makes a gun shot sound**

or returning from duty in vietnam:

- survived vietnam, eh?
- yeah.
- more of a get-shot-in-vietnam man myself
- I knew a get-shot-in-vietnam guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares at 'more of ho ho man myself' in ilx post**

it's a good show u ding dongs

i agree but last night's episode was not great

xp i knew a ding dong guy in vietnam

insert ho ho ho chi minh joek

I like the dialogue!

i knew a dialogue guy in vietnam

This is the episode that Milch worked on iirc...

lol.

like that part made me chuckle. plus the weird beat after where you are waiting for a cut or for the next scene and it doesn't come. i also thought the date scene at the nice restaurant was tremendous! so many evasions and doubled meanings.

tbf i also liked the dialogue in season 2...but only Farrell was really up to it. the bizarre and often pulpy flourishes in the writing are what keep this show a head above stately prestige tv fair, imo.

xp

"how you wear that badge?" "it's got a little clip on it" had me dyin

the bit in the restaurant were he goes "i don't like that word unless it's applied to a man" about the word pussy and she goes "what do you prefer?" or whatevs and he says "cockholster" and they both find it hilarious made me groan

woah tmi

pfft

the bit in the restaurant were he goes "i don't like that word unless it's applied to a man" about the word pussy and she goes "what do you prefer?" or whatevs and he says "cockholster" and they both find it hilarious made me groan

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, January 28, 2019

he said "dickholster," which isn't as good (which is why you fixed it for him lol)

i really like the actors that play the kids parents. she's great in the 'i have the soul of a whore' scene

David Milch cowrote this episode and the unrealisitic dialogue showed it (particularly in the argument Hays had with his wife and 'soul of a whore')

That bit where the TV producer/interviewer says “I’m not going to show you all my cards yet” was like oh hello contrived detective show.

I keep thinking of Sarah Gadon's presence in Cronenberg films and expect the interviews to go in a weird direction

It's pretty facile to point to Milch as the primary reason for "unrealistic" dialogue. Pizzolatto is more than capable of that on his own

I can definitely see them bringing out the worst in each other though

i liked her line about 'you only stand upright out of habit' though.

yeah that was a thump to the chest

thought last night's ep was much better.

they're definitely having fun with the multiple era linkage

the scene where the older, senile Hays is looking for his family only to see a flashback to the '90s, and the flashback Hays is remembering his blood-covered self from a decade earlier in the window reflection was a interesting visual linkage

kind of felt like most of this episode was treading water though it did have two major things in it (the phone call from Julie and the reunion of the two detectives); but it took a long time to get there. guess it's the mid-point in the series though.

intrigued by Julie's "the man pretending to be my dad" comment.

also clearly by the 'present' time it appears that she has never resurfaced.

they may play it a different way, but given her phone call and the drifter kid's description of things she'd said, I get the impression that she was abducted and also brainwashed by whoever took her into thinking her dad was a horrible abuser

the cops seemed as if they were suspicious he might be culpable, though

i liked that episode! so bill clinton did all of this, right

Pizzolattogate

So, based on how this week's episode, it seems either the story does tie in with season 1, or else they're just imitating its plot a bit too closely. Still, it's nice to story is finally moving forward, and I did appreaciate the talk Hays had with his son about his infidelity and about fear, that was a good little scene.

"So, based on how this week's episode, it seems either the story does tie in with season 1" ??? how so?

My feeling is that this will end fairly unsurprisingly although probably in a satisfactory manner. My guess is the wife sold off the daughter, or gave the daughter to someone; or they took her for some reason. Perhaps dude wasn't the real father after all as implied. Wife was certainly paid to do something for those 8 years; guy new exactly which house to go to.

The scene of him entering the house was a little too You Were Never Really Here though.

unless you mean the secret society...in which case, yeah, maybe those do connect.

Yeah that's what I meant... Both seasons have rich and powerful local authority figures (Tuttle in S1, Hoyt in this one) kidnapping girls for sinister reasons... And we know Tuttle's conspiracy was active in the early '90s, so either there's a connection, or they're really just rehashing ideas from season one.

Maybe Pizzolatto is even trying to make up for how pointless and anticlimactic the whole conspiracy plot turned out to be in S1... I doubt this one is gonna end with a corny horror movie villain.

I'm really creeped out by pink prison basement

I was initially scared that the cop-turned-security guy was going to flip a switch and Tom would get locked in that room with the bank vault door without seeing a soul

I'm guessing Tom kills cop-turned-security guy which is why he vanished during the second investigation. not sure what's going to happen to tom though.

this is a show where my immediate response is "yeah, I hope he takes out that guy. had it coming."

My current theory is that Julie is safe in 1990 and is being put in danger by the investigation and that maybe even Hayes and West are being used by certain "nefarious men" to find her.

this season is not bringing me joy, less so than even season 2 :(