TRUE DETECTIVE season 3

in 1990.

in 1980 maybe he misses something big, screws up in some way

sorry that's garbled and the timeline makes no sense. i think he both will screw up and go rogue. but since in 1990 the case has been reopened he wouldn't be going rogue looking for the real killer

but somehow he gets kicked off the force in 1990.

my guess is the native guy who drives around on the go kart gets made a patsy for the killing and ali's character goes rogue looking for the real guilty party

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:49 (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haven't they already said it's legrange who was put in prison for it first time around? i've only watched the first two episodes. finding it a bit hard going but ali, and yes, wife, are keeping me in there. the balance of mystical or spiritual paranoia and political corruption paranoia was very powerful in the first series (apart from the last three episodes which were just... what a waste). i'm not getting it at the moment in 3 - it's feeling a bit leaden, though again there's a very good feeling for place being complicit in the events.

Haven't watched any of two, were it not for its reputation it would be *extremely* appealing, as LA through mystical paranoia and complicity of place feels A+ for LA, so it's a shame that they ballsed it up. I'm going to read City of Quartz in a few weeks' time and might come back to it then.

was happy to spot an AD&D manual in the missing boy's room called The Forests of Leng in ep2 of this season

between this and Dorff hassling the kid over his black sabbath shirt and "1980" all of this is screaming "satanic panic" at me

otm

also the discovery of the dice in the woods

ah fuck i forgot that

Ali's character mentions in the latest episode that some folks started to believe D&D was corrupting kids, but he says it in an offhand manner that suggests he or the other cops didn't really buy that.

Ali's character mentions in the latest episode that some folks started to believe D&D was corrupting kids, but he says it in an offhand manner that suggests he or the other cops didn't really buy that.

But yeah, based on what Dorff says when being interviewed in this week's episode, seems like Ali and the DA guy had some falling off that lead to him being demoted. So maybe the DA believed in the Satanic theory while he didn't?

The implication is that the DA is already (in the 1980s timeline) wrecking parts of the investigation and all indications are that he's going to force them down a road. Probably one that forces them to a particular non-suspect and forces a quick resolution, meaning they won't have the resources to investigate leads like the brown car.

I don’t buy the satanic angle. Sabbath t shirts and D&D stuff was pretty common during that time

so was satanic panic linked to it tho! especially by moral right wing crusaders.

Yes, that was a huge contributing factor in the West Memphis Three case.

Partial challop drop (No thread derail please) : those docs on wm3 are very tendentious and lots of what is presented as fact in them is false.

noted, jim.

Otoh prejudice and satanic panic was what lead echolls to be questioned in the first place so it would be disingenuous to say satanic panic played no role in the case

really doubt they'd be so dumb as to misfire in this way but I had a fleeting moment of worry thinking "oh no, what if Pizzolatto thought it'd be edgy to do a satanic panic plot... but it's all true"

well either he's bluffing or...

People have noted the comparison to the West Memphis 3 “Satanic panic” case, how of much of that is an inspiration if any?

Not at all. You’re moved off that pretty quickly. It’s really not informed by that.

good

the dialogue in this show is very bad.

the first date scene in the latest episode was a case in point.

yeah lots of cringeworthy dialog in that episode unfortunately

- so you're a catholic, eh
- yeah. you?
- baptist
- I knew a baptist guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares out window and quietly makes a gun shot sound**

hahaha

imagine a guy from arkansas saying "knew a baptist guy in vietnam" in the first place. like you knew plenty of baptist folks in general you're form arkansas ffs

I bought it as a thing he says to all baptists

or maybe even more generally, say at the grocery store:

- twinkies, eh?
- yeah.
- more of ho ho man myself
- I knew a ho ho guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares at magazine rack and quietly makes a gun shot sound**

or returning from duty in vietnam:

- survived vietnam, eh?
- yeah.
- more of a get-shot-in-vietnam man myself
- I knew a get-shot-in-vietnam guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares at 'more of ho ho man myself' in ilx post**

it's a good show u ding dongs

i agree but last night's episode was not great

xp i knew a ding dong guy in vietnam

insert ho ho ho chi minh joek

I like the dialogue!

i knew a dialogue guy in vietnam

This is the episode that Milch worked on iirc...

lol.

like that part made me chuckle. plus the weird beat after where you are waiting for a cut or for the next scene and it doesn't come. i also thought the date scene at the nice restaurant was tremendous! so many evasions and doubled meanings.

tbf i also liked the dialogue in season 2...but only Farrell was really up to it. the bizarre and often pulpy flourishes in the writing are what keep this show a head above stately prestige tv fair, imo.

xp

"how you wear that badge?" "it's got a little clip on it" had me dyin

the bit in the restaurant were he goes "i don't like that word unless it's applied to a man" about the word pussy and she goes "what do you prefer?" or whatevs and he says "cockholster" and they both find it hilarious made me groan

woah tmi

pfft

the bit in the restaurant were he goes "i don't like that word unless it's applied to a man" about the word pussy and she goes "what do you prefer?" or whatevs and he says "cockholster" and they both find it hilarious made me groan

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, January 28, 2019

he said "dickholster," which isn't as good (which is why you fixed it for him lol)

i really like the actors that play the kids parents. she's great in the 'i have the soul of a whore' scene

David Milch cowrote this episode and the unrealisitic dialogue showed it (particularly in the argument Hays had with his wife and 'soul of a whore')

That bit where the TV producer/interviewer says “I’m not going to show you all my cards yet” was like oh hello contrived detective show.

I keep thinking of Sarah Gadon's presence in Cronenberg films and expect the interviews to go in a weird direction

It's pretty facile to point to Milch as the primary reason for "unrealistic" dialogue. Pizzolatto is more than capable of that on his own

I can definitely see them bringing out the worst in each other though

i liked her line about 'you only stand upright out of habit' though.

yeah that was a thump to the chest