pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

i can appreciate Bush's intentions in criticising destruction of indigenous lands etc. but the execution seems naive and clumsy at best and isn't really defensible.

I agree with this, however I can't get with this line from the review: she unfairly extracts cultural (and economic) value from Aboriginal suffering just as the characters in the song mine their land. Exactly the same thing!

yeah it's not like they get nothing—they get to be in a song

tbf Bush songs have rendered thousands of acres of land unusable

seemingly all of editorial has resigned recently

if this is true then i'm unaware of it? what tea leaves are you reading fred

I was just referring to Richardson and Schreiber, who I assume got money from the buyout

yeah that's p common

lol mark leaving feels like it was 100 years ago

Yeah, it's just speculation based on two people. Shakey is persuasive.

i've read/checked the site every day for over a decade and will have no problem stopping once it goes behind a paywall. i haven't really minded the degradation/homogenization of the site, it's been a long time since I discovered a band I loved via p4k, doesn't feel like a loss.

I wouldn't mind paying for Pitchfork if it hadn't descended into the kind of celebrity-worshiping, surface-level broad pop culture/lifestyle website that there are a million of now anyway. All it has to distinguish it from others is its legacy/history.

Someone will write a good book about this whole thing one day, I'm sure.

Honest question: are there any music-journalism-focused print subscriptions that are worth spending money on in 2019?

the wire

All it has to distinguish it from others is its legacy/history.

what about the large amount of longform high quality music writing published daily?

im actually bullish on a post-white dudes in their mid forties pitchfork, puja patel rules imo

it's been a long time since I discovered a band I loved via p4k

the site stopped “breaking” bands (or at least, lost first mover advantage to blogs then social media) in like 2007 tho

Why not pay for something that is your "primary daily source of reviews and recommendations"?

― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre)

why not pay for music?

the value of a BNM has been steadily decreasing since 2-3 years ago. it will definitely plummet if 90% of their former readers can't see it.

Will “October” also be behind the paywall? 🍺 💵

I wouldn't mind paying for Pitchfork if it hadn't descended into the kind of celebrity-worshiping, surface-level broad pop culture/lifestyle website that there are a million of now anyway. All it has to distinguish it from others is its legacy/history.

― triggercut, Wednesday, January 23, 2019 12:05 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

y'all deserve each other

what about the large amount of longform high quality music writing published daily?

what, you mean like this? (published today)

"Duendita’s soul music speaks to the heart and spirit. Ordained by her connection to the ups and downs of the human experience, she is a gateway to the divine."

I'll probably still check out the record, but jesus wept.

That's some straight up

Pitchfork: King PU$$Y Eater revolutionizes our perception of bodies and spaces with his hit single "Goop on Ya Grinch" [7.6]

— mustard tiger (@JucheMane) April 14, 2017

lol

I *think* they might still be a bit upset that I called them out for their toxic masculinity. 😘 https://t.co/jlnvVF7z0h

— James Blake (@jamesblake) January 23, 2019

The Fork is into toxic masculinity these days?

they gave it 7.4

James Blake is really dire though so I guess toxic masculinity has its benefits

lol

I *think* they might still be a bit upset that I called them out for their toxic masculinity. 😘 https://t.co/jlnvVF7z0h
— James Blake (@jamesblake) January 23, 2019
― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:51 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what is this referring to?

Yeah, the 7.4 alone doesn't explain it.

5.8 rather.

this review of one of his singles:

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/james-blake-dont-miss-it/

followed by this:

Please read. I've wanted to say this for a long time, and now seemed as good a time as any. pic.twitter.com/1fSPt7SJnx

— James Blake (@jamesblake) May 26, 2018

I don't know if I ever posted about this on the board or whatever, but when James Blake emerged I was kind of struck by how much we looked alike, and I was resentful that he was younger and more successful than me (based off the back of two singles that were both covers), and, later, resentful of his obvious talent and the fact that he is a good four inches taller than me, and, later, resentful of the fact that my current boyfriend clearly has a crush on him

Anyway back in 2011, around when he first emerged, we were both scheduled to play the Donau Festival in Austria. I was watching Ben Frost play his set and I noticed that James Blake was standing right next to me. I sized him up and was like "wow he really does look like a dreamier, taller version of me" but I was too shy to just go up and be like "HI!" so I just stood there and kept watching the Ben Frost set.

I don't remember if it was the same day or the next day, but James and I had both played our sets at that point, and I was crossing the festival grounds. These two young people came up to me and were like "omg! your set was so amazing" thank you thank you "you're my musical hero!" thank you thank you "could you sign records for us?!" of course of course, and then they hand me two James Blake records for me to sign. These kids thought I was James Blake.

So I signed them. I don't remember anymore what I signed on one of them, but I do remember what I signed on the other: "Hello -- keep on not knowing about your dreams! <3 JB"

that's so awesome

lmao

Amazing, but I kinda wish you'd signed "love, James Blunt. PS your beautiful :)"

goon, you've got the start of a Soderbergh picture right there

ty ty

The other one was something like "To Gert - there's NO limit to my love, for you, yours truly, James" but I can't remember exactly

this is off topic fgti but i keep meaning to mention that you have a piece that my partner's Youth Choir (she's the choir manager) is gonna perform that i'm looking forward to hearing
you gonna be at that gig?

I think so, gonna fly down for it. Have you looked at the piece? It's really fun. I can't wait to see the look on all the parents' faces when their children are screaming:

We care not for social justice.
It is a sissy-mead.
We care not for reparations.
The poor insult us with their greed.

haven't seen/heard it yet. i have never heard the term "sissy-mead", where's that from?

Poetic license, I assume. It works!

anyways, will try to look you up! Maybe get you better pottery than i gave ya prior.

I wrote the libretto with a friend/poet and that phrase was his suggestion! I love it! Sissy-mead! Kind of some Ancient Grecian version of snowflake-water or something

i love that story fgti

Great story.

The Fork is into toxic masculinity these days?

― pomenitul, Thursday, January 24, 2019 6:53 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they gave it 7.4

― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes)

i'll admit to never having fully understood their rating scale but this seems to me to be absolutely inappropriately high

if they don't want to make a statement and give it 0.0, you know, that's fine, but toxic masculinity should get a 2.4 at most

unless we're talking about the cressida ep "toxic masculinity", and even then man that record just isn't that great, i'd give it a 5.2 at most, cressida were definitely better in their '60s prog-rock phase and haven't adapted well to techno

I think it gets that score due to its "historical significance" rather than whether it was ever actually good.

I think we're talking about the Airborne Toxic Masculinity.

It's one of those things where you had to be there.

Toxic Masculinity didn't sell many records, but everyone who bought one went out and started a Reddit thread

hahaha

i've read/checked the site every day for over a decade and will have no problem stopping once it goes behind a paywall. i haven't really minded the degradation/homogenization of the site, it's been a long time since I discovered a band I loved via p4k, doesn't feel like a loss.

― flappy bird, Wednesday, January 23, 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don’t tend to discover bands via Pitchfork—honestly can’t remember the last time that happened, though it didn’t happen in the past. These days I tend to discover things through other channels—recommendations here or on Twitter or going down Spotify rabbit holes. But I still routinely check Pitchfork to see what they said about anything I do find. So I guess they ceased being my trainspotter a long time ago but they still are a kind of... validator? I hesitate to use that word but there it is.