TRUE DETECTIVE season 3

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I want more investigation and less soap opera in general, except if the latter involves Ali’s wife, who is gorgeous

calstars, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:25 (one year ago) link

I like this a lot still too...episode 3 felt like place setting, and overall the whole thing feels like it's still in the wind-up...but there's a problem with the central case itself not being that interesting just yet. Assuming many shoes are left to drop.
Based on the hints in this episode it certainly seems there's more going on than just random child murder, what with the talk of some unknown couple having stalked the kids way before they disappeared. Also, we found out that the girl's fate still remains a mystery in 2015, so presumably we're gonna see some investigating in that setting too.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:16 (one year ago) link

And what about the creepy uncle who bored that hole in the closet to watch his sister bang?

calstars, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:01 (one year ago) link

yea that is def gonna factor in somehow imo

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:12 (one year ago) link

"except if the latter involves Ali’s wife, who is gorgeous" OMG yes.

akm, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:47 (one year ago) link

also, clearly, Ali's character fucked something up. Was he removed from him job before 1990? He's still a cop but clearly was no longer a detective and it seems like there was possibly some suspected malfeasance on his part?

akm, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:48 (one year ago) link

my guess is the native guy who drives around on the go kart gets made a patsy for the killing and ali's character goes rogue looking for the real guilty party

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:49 (one year ago) link

in 1990.

in 1980 maybe he misses something big, screws up in some way

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:50 (one year ago) link

sorry that's garbled and the timeline makes no sense. i think he both will screw up and go rogue. but since in 1990 the case has been reopened he wouldn't be going rogue looking for the real killer

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:51 (one year ago) link

but somehow he gets kicked off the force in 1990.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:51 (one year ago) link

my guess is the native guy who drives around on the go kart gets made a patsy for the killing and ali's character goes rogue looking for the real guilty party

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:49 (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haven't they already said it's legrange who was put in prison for it first time around? i've only watched the first two episodes. finding it a bit hard going but ali, and yes, wife, are keeping me in there. the balance of mystical or spiritual paranoia and political corruption paranoia was very powerful in the first series (apart from the last three episodes which were just... what a waste). i'm not getting it at the moment in 3 - it's feeling a bit leaden, though again there's a very good feeling for place being complicit in the events.

Haven't watched any of two, were it not for its reputation it would be *extremely* appealing, as LA through mystical paranoia and complicity of place feels A+ for LA, so it's a shame that they ballsed it up. I'm going to read City of Quartz in a few weeks' time and might come back to it then.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 20:14 (one year ago) link

was happy to spot an AD&D manual in the missing boy's room called The Forests of Leng in ep2 of this season

between this and Dorff hassling the kid over his black sabbath shirt and "1980" all of this is screaming "satanic panic" at me

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 20:32 (one year ago) link

otm

also the discovery of the dice in the woods

mh, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 20:34 (one year ago) link

ah fuck i forgot that

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 20:55 (one year ago) link

Ali's character mentions in the latest episode that some folks started to believe D&D was corrupting kids, but he says it in an offhand manner that suggests he or the other cops didn't really buy that.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 21:45 (one year ago) link

Ali's character mentions in the latest episode that some folks started to believe D&D was corrupting kids, but he says it in an offhand manner that suggests he or the other cops didn't really buy that.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 21:53 (one year ago) link

But yeah, based on what Dorff says when being interviewed in this week's episode, seems like Ali and the DA guy had some falling off that lead to him being demoted. So maybe the DA believed in the Satanic theory while he didn't?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 21:55 (one year ago) link

The implication is that the DA is already (in the 1980s timeline) wrecking parts of the investigation and all indications are that he's going to force them down a road. Probably one that forces them to a particular non-suspect and forces a quick resolution, meaning they won't have the resources to investigate leads like the brown car.

mh, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 22:07 (one year ago) link

I don’t buy the satanic angle. Sabbath t shirts and D&D stuff was pretty common during that time

calstars, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 23:47 (one year ago) link

so was satanic panic linked to it tho! especially by moral right wing crusaders.

Fizzles, Thursday, 24 January 2019 06:48 (one year ago) link

Yes, that was a huge contributing factor in the West Memphis Three case.

ShariVari, Thursday, 24 January 2019 07:43 (one year ago) link

Partial challop drop (No thread derail please) : those docs on wm3 are very tendentious and lots of what is presented as fact in them is false.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 24 January 2019 08:31 (one year ago) link

noted, jim.

Fizzles, Thursday, 24 January 2019 09:14 (one year ago) link

Otoh prejudice and satanic panic was what lead echolls to be questioned in the first place so it would be disingenuous to say satanic panic played no role in the case

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 24 January 2019 09:25 (one year ago) link

really doubt they'd be so dumb as to misfire in this way but I had a fleeting moment of worry thinking "oh no, what if Pizzolatto thought it'd be edgy to do a satanic panic plot... but it's all true"

mh, Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:06 (one year ago) link

well either he's bluffing or...

People have noted the comparison to the West Memphis 3 “Satanic panic” case, how of much of that is an inspiration if any?

Not at all. You’re moved off that pretty quickly. It’s really not informed by that.

Number None, Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:12 (one year ago) link

good

calumy (rip van wanko), Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:00 (one year ago) link

the dialogue in this show is very bad.

the first date scene in the latest episode was a case in point.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 January 2019 20:30 (one year ago) link

yeah lots of cringeworthy dialog in that episode unfortunately

Heez, Monday, 28 January 2019 20:54 (one year ago) link

- so you're a catholic, eh
- yeah. you?
- baptist
- I knew a baptist guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares out window and quietly makes a gun shot sound**

Heez, Monday, 28 January 2019 20:57 (one year ago) link

hahaha

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 January 2019 21:03 (one year ago) link

imagine a guy from arkansas saying "knew a baptist guy in vietnam" in the first place. like you knew plenty of baptist folks in general you're form arkansas ffs

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 January 2019 21:04 (one year ago) link

I bought it as a thing he says to all baptists

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 January 2019 21:14 (one year ago) link

or maybe even more generally, say at the grocery store:

- twinkies, eh?
- yeah.
- more of ho ho man myself
- I knew a ho ho guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares at magazine rack and quietly makes a gun shot sound**

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 January 2019 21:22 (one year ago) link

or returning from duty in vietnam:

- survived vietnam, eh?
- yeah.
- more of a get-shot-in-vietnam man myself
- I knew a get-shot-in-vietnam guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares at 'more of ho ho man myself' in ilx post**

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 January 2019 21:29 (one year ago) link

it's a good show u ding dongs

calumy (rip van wanko), Monday, 28 January 2019 21:56 (one year ago) link

i agree but last night's episode was not great

Heez, Monday, 28 January 2019 21:59 (one year ago) link

xp i knew a ding dong guy in vietnam

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 January 2019 22:11 (one year ago) link

insert ho ho ho chi minh joek

Οὖτις, Monday, 28 January 2019 22:13 (one year ago) link

I like the dialogue!

ryan, Monday, 28 January 2019 22:34 (one year ago) link

i knew a dialogue guy in vietnam

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 January 2019 22:37 (one year ago) link

This is the episode that Milch worked on iirc...

Number None, Monday, 28 January 2019 22:40 (one year ago) link

lol.

like that part made me chuckle. plus the weird beat after where you are waiting for a cut or for the next scene and it doesn't come. i also thought the date scene at the nice restaurant was tremendous! so many evasions and doubled meanings.

tbf i also liked the dialogue in season 2...but only Farrell was really up to it. the bizarre and often pulpy flourishes in the writing are what keep this show a head above stately prestige tv fair, imo.

ryan, Monday, 28 January 2019 22:42 (one year ago) link

xp

ryan, Monday, 28 January 2019 22:43 (one year ago) link

"how you wear that badge?" "it's got a little clip on it" had me dyin

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 28 January 2019 23:14 (one year ago) link

the bit in the restaurant were he goes "i don't like that word unless it's applied to a man" about the word pussy and she goes "what do you prefer?" or whatevs and he says "cockholster" and they both find it hilarious made me groan

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 January 2019 23:18 (one year ago) link

woah tmi

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 28 January 2019 23:28 (one year ago) link

pfft

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 January 2019 23:28 (one year ago) link

the bit in the restaurant were he goes "i don't like that word unless it's applied to a man" about the word pussy and she goes "what do you prefer?" or whatevs and he says "cockholster" and they both find it hilarious made me groan

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, January 28, 2019

he said "dickholster," which isn't as good (which is why you fixed it for him lol)

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 00:56 (one year ago) link

i really like the actors that play the kids parents. she's great in the 'i have the soul of a whore' scene

Heez, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 03:43 (one year ago) link


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