the life-changing magic of tidying up

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Yerac, lol. "You paid ACTUAL money to see Limp Bizkit? In two thousand FOUR?"

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:09 (five years ago) link

I would make them tell me about the show first and their favorite lyric.

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:16 (five years ago) link

Otherwise you're just performing routine maintenance on your excessively consumeristic life.

what's wrong with routine maintenance?

― sarahell, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 7:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think the point was that it would be more lasting and sensible to reject an "excessively consumeristic life" than to merely maintain it in a way that makes it more tolerable.

― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, January 22, 2019 8:07 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Right, it's this. So many times I feel like we have gotten rid of something we "don't use" only to replace it with something else we convince ourselves will serve the same purpose better, and then we don't use that either or it's equally lacking in longevity. Purging consumer goods can easily become an integral part of consumeristic habits instead of an antidote to them--an essential part of dealing with the inflow of stuff rather than a means to a more minimalist life.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:12 (five years ago) link

I appreciate that someone wrote this article. I couldn't articulate a lot of this before . I think someone mentioned on the netflix thread about her shinto mindset.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/marie-kondo-white-western-audineces_us_5c47859be4b025aa26bde77c?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000046&utm_campaign=hp_fb_pages&ir=Entertainment&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=women_fb&fbclid=IwAR3N6HJMCDeFg9bYOTmG1howmeMOI5WV3KQnPpirnwCGJddHvlM07lpI9nQ

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link

interesting, but it also seems absurd that that joking tweet about books required an apology

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link

Oh, I didn't even see that. My tweet blocking powers are getting stronger and stronger.

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 15:48 (five years ago) link

also totally makes sense to me because the little once more religious Jewish voice in the back of my head said "that's idol worship" when I was watching it, lol

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:00 (five years ago) link

thx for that article Yerac

Nhex, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link

I think the point was that it would be more lasting and sensible to reject an "excessively consumeristic life" than to merely maintain it in a way that makes it more tolerable.

― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, January 22, 2019 5:07 PM (yesterday)

this is kinda like my "waiting for the revolution" type anarchist friends that don't see the point of voting or getting involved in any form of activism that doesn't result in overthrowing capitalism, the patriarchy, etc.

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:27 (five years ago) link

lol what? It's nothing like that.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link

it kind of is because you are going to accumulate things and clutter and stuff you don't need because that is life in America, sorry.

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link

or stuff you want for a while and then don't want -- consumerism is like gravity at this point -- sorry, this is just how I feel and also true

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:32 (five years ago) link

Buying behavior can just as much be altered as hording behavior. Of course no TV show is going to focus on not buying stuff though /trench

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link

imo it's a trickle-down effect, by making you reconsider what you want to keep it makes you reconsider what you've been buying, and what you'll buy in the future

omar little, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

whether you buy it yourself, or receive it as gifts from well-meaning family members, like YMP's, you are gonna end up with a bunch of stuff you end up not wanting ... maybe not as much, but ...yeah, I challenge you to create an anti-clutter force field in yr home to prevent it from getting in.

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

Oh well for sure it can't be 100% stopped, I understand that well having a 3yo and a 7yo. We have a policy of throwing away all goodie bag junk after they go to sleep for example.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link

there’s kind of a Say’s law to clutter imo; having a tiny apartment helps. people with houses seem to love filling them up with random crap. my sister has an entire room in her house that’s just ‘storage’ (enormous piles of junk)

flopson, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

I have an anti-clutter forcefield. It was work though.

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

Plus it helps that my spouse was a techno hippie and he cleans his shit up like an adult.

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link

having a tiny apartment helps. people with houses seem to love filling them up with random crap. my sister has an entire room in her house that’s just ‘storage’ (enormous piles of junk)

yeah!!! i remember when real estate ppl started selling the concept of the "bonus room" -- where the bonus room really was just a room to put piles of junk so the rest of the house could look fashionably tidy. otoh, I know plenty of people who live in small apartments that rent storage units.

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

Yeah was just talking about that with H -- we are a musician and artist and we always talk about wanting a house to have space for doing music and art. We just visited another musician/artist couple who had moved to a house with extra rooms, but they had managed to fill the extra rooms with crap and still not have space for music and art.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

i just recently made more room in my apartment for music stuff -- such that, in theory, i could set up my drums in my living room -- which maybe i will do, however the downstairs neighbors would have an issue with me practicing them

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link

Buy them earplugs

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

But them in little gift baskets with a note on scented paper saying you’re going to be drumming now

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

hahahah

sarahell, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:00 (five years ago) link

everyone hates the drummer neighbour

flopson, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

having a tiny apartment helps. people with houses seem to love filling them up with random crap. my sister has an entire room in her house that’s just ‘storage’ (enormous piles of junk)

a reason why I am not allowed to live in a house with a basement ever again

Jaq, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link

Our last place had a garage and my husband was mad the new place didn’t - but guess what we never parked the damn car in there we just filled it with junk. Not having a garage means we def have accumulated way less junk in the last 5 yrs than we did in 2-3 yrs in the old place.

just1n3, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 22:55 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

I do like doing the dishes tho, its a nice satisfying job that leaves the mind free

your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Saturday, 10 April 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link

One of the big choices I make is whether to do the dishes every day or every other day. I need to judge how long it will take me then choose a musical selection of that duration. If I overshoot or undershoot timewise, I'm annoyed.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 10 April 2021 01:35 (three years ago) link

doing the dishes is a highlight of my day to be sure

Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Saturday, 10 April 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

I'm starting to enjoy a good hoovering as well

Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Saturday, 10 April 2021 14:08 (three years ago) link

The importance of house cleaning has been growing for me over time, but it is also a source of stress and frustration because the other members of my household do not give it the same priority.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 10 April 2021 14:26 (three years ago) link


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