TRUE DETECTIVE season 3

and he was good in the Killing of a Sacred Deer too, altho that film on the whole left me cold

in bruges

biting my tongue in re-ligitating season 1's ending and "adolescent philosophizing" but time is a flat circle, etc.

I like this a lot still too...episode 3 felt like place setting, and overall the whole thing feels like it's still in the wind-up...but there's a problem with the central case itself not being that interesting just yet. Assuming many shoes are left to drop.

Number None OTM season 2 was really obviously a first draft rushed into production. Farrell in particular did tremendous work trying to make something of what he was given.

I'd like to re-watch season 2 again someday...there was something profoundly alienating about it but I couldn't look away.

Some sort of Mickey Newbury thing going on with the closing credits huh

I couldn't make it to the half of the first ep of s2... and I loved s1 (with some reserve regarding the ending, obviously) !
I don't know why but I'm not remotely interested in s3.

I enjoyed the supernatural hints in S1 so was happy to spot an AD&D manual in the missing boy's room called The Forests of Leng in ep2 of this season. I'm reserving judgement but it certainly is less boring and tortured than the first few eps of S2 that I managed to get through.

I want more investigation and less soap opera in general, except if the latter involves Ali’s wife, who is gorgeous

I like this a lot still too...episode 3 felt like place setting, and overall the whole thing feels like it's still in the wind-up...but there's a problem with the central case itself not being that interesting just yet. Assuming many shoes are left to drop.

And what about the creepy uncle who bored that hole in the closet to watch his sister bang?

yea that is def gonna factor in somehow imo

"except if the latter involves Ali’s wife, who is gorgeous" OMG yes.

also, clearly, Ali's character fucked something up. Was he removed from him job before 1990? He's still a cop but clearly was no longer a detective and it seems like there was possibly some suspected malfeasance on his part?

my guess is the native guy who drives around on the go kart gets made a patsy for the killing and ali's character goes rogue looking for the real guilty party

in 1990.

in 1980 maybe he misses something big, screws up in some way

sorry that's garbled and the timeline makes no sense. i think he both will screw up and go rogue. but since in 1990 the case has been reopened he wouldn't be going rogue looking for the real killer

but somehow he gets kicked off the force in 1990.

my guess is the native guy who drives around on the go kart gets made a patsy for the killing and ali's character goes rogue looking for the real guilty party

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 19:49 (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haven't they already said it's legrange who was put in prison for it first time around? i've only watched the first two episodes. finding it a bit hard going but ali, and yes, wife, are keeping me in there. the balance of mystical or spiritual paranoia and political corruption paranoia was very powerful in the first series (apart from the last three episodes which were just... what a waste). i'm not getting it at the moment in 3 - it's feeling a bit leaden, though again there's a very good feeling for place being complicit in the events.

Haven't watched any of two, were it not for its reputation it would be *extremely* appealing, as LA through mystical paranoia and complicity of place feels A+ for LA, so it's a shame that they ballsed it up. I'm going to read City of Quartz in a few weeks' time and might come back to it then.

was happy to spot an AD&D manual in the missing boy's room called The Forests of Leng in ep2 of this season

between this and Dorff hassling the kid over his black sabbath shirt and "1980" all of this is screaming "satanic panic" at me

otm

also the discovery of the dice in the woods

ah fuck i forgot that

Ali's character mentions in the latest episode that some folks started to believe D&D was corrupting kids, but he says it in an offhand manner that suggests he or the other cops didn't really buy that.

Ali's character mentions in the latest episode that some folks started to believe D&D was corrupting kids, but he says it in an offhand manner that suggests he or the other cops didn't really buy that.

But yeah, based on what Dorff says when being interviewed in this week's episode, seems like Ali and the DA guy had some falling off that lead to him being demoted. So maybe the DA believed in the Satanic theory while he didn't?

The implication is that the DA is already (in the 1980s timeline) wrecking parts of the investigation and all indications are that he's going to force them down a road. Probably one that forces them to a particular non-suspect and forces a quick resolution, meaning they won't have the resources to investigate leads like the brown car.

I don’t buy the satanic angle. Sabbath t shirts and D&D stuff was pretty common during that time

so was satanic panic linked to it tho! especially by moral right wing crusaders.

Yes, that was a huge contributing factor in the West Memphis Three case.

Partial challop drop (No thread derail please) : those docs on wm3 are very tendentious and lots of what is presented as fact in them is false.

noted, jim.

Otoh prejudice and satanic panic was what lead echolls to be questioned in the first place so it would be disingenuous to say satanic panic played no role in the case

really doubt they'd be so dumb as to misfire in this way but I had a fleeting moment of worry thinking "oh no, what if Pizzolatto thought it'd be edgy to do a satanic panic plot... but it's all true"

well either he's bluffing or...

People have noted the comparison to the West Memphis 3 “Satanic panic” case, how of much of that is an inspiration if any?

Not at all. You’re moved off that pretty quickly. It’s really not informed by that.

good

the dialogue in this show is very bad.

the first date scene in the latest episode was a case in point.

yeah lots of cringeworthy dialog in that episode unfortunately

- so you're a catholic, eh
- yeah. you?
- baptist
- I knew a baptist guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares out window and quietly makes a gun shot sound**

hahaha

imagine a guy from arkansas saying "knew a baptist guy in vietnam" in the first place. like you knew plenty of baptist folks in general you're form arkansas ffs

I bought it as a thing he says to all baptists

or maybe even more generally, say at the grocery store:

- twinkies, eh?
- yeah.
- more of ho ho man myself
- I knew a ho ho guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares at magazine rack and quietly makes a gun shot sound**

or returning from duty in vietnam:

- survived vietnam, eh?
- yeah.
- more of a get-shot-in-vietnam man myself
- I knew a get-shot-in-vietnam guy in vietnam
- oh yeah, what happened to him?
**stares at 'more of ho ho man myself' in ilx post**

it's a good show u ding dongs

i agree but last night's episode was not great

xp i knew a ding dong guy in vietnam

insert ho ho ho chi minh joek

I like the dialogue!

i knew a dialogue guy in vietnam

This is the episode that Milch worked on iirc...