US Politics January 2019: we are #ready to drop something much, much bigger

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Yeah... most logical takeaway is that the story was flat wrong given Mueller actually responding at all.

Evan, Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:39 (five years ago) link

Or maybe Whitaker made him release the statement?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 January 2019 13:50 (five years ago) link

good morning

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 January 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link

Mueller better have something good coming.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 19 January 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link

I’m mad at him now.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 19 January 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link

send him an email

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 January 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link

Riiigggghht now

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link

I’m seeing him tonight at Barcade. I’ll let him know then.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:22 (five years ago) link

so what’s up is r/The_Donald et al on some “Mueller is good now” tip?

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link

Lol, big if true

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:57 (five years ago) link

Q Anon has been saying mueller and trump are secretly working together for over a year now

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:58 (five years ago) link

Wonder if Mueller leaked that to get in Trump's good graces and then willrelease the report that says "lol jk he totally did it just didn't want to take the edges off my report with leaked spoilers"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 January 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link

I just read that weird WaPo piece about the reporter in Paris who randomly got put on the line with the Pres. No shock, but I guess Trump still asks "Are you Hillary or Trump?" of people he meets?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 January 2019 16:24 (five years ago) link

https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/01/19/peter-carr-speaks/

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 January 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link

Reportedly ready to offer temporary protection for Dreamers in return for border money. Fuck that. Temporary is worthless.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:22 (five years ago) link

fuck temporary protection, but more importantly, fuck ANYTHING AT ALL in exchange for the wall. if you criticize the offer because it's temporary, that leads to possible concessions that it would be better if it were permanent, which would be a compromise that trump could try to negotiate toward. then he could claim victory on two counts - getting his dumbass border wall, and getting democrats to concede to a deal that was offered a year ago. it would also reinforce the idea that establish budgets and policy via hostage showdowns is a good thing to try. that's why they have to just stand strong on the NOTHING for the wall, open the government now you childish loser strategy

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link

Open the government and we will be happy to talk about whatever proposals the executive may have. But risking health and safety, hurting the economy, and delivering pain to families can never be the start of a fruitful negotiation. So, open the government, and let’s talk.

— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) January 19, 2019

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:52 (five years ago) link

^^^

looking forward to some guy from Denmark explaining why we're all wrong here

sleeve, Saturday, 19 January 2019 19:08 (five years ago) link

did Sasour and Tamika Mallory poison the appetite for the women's march this year? I've seen and heard much less about it.

akm, Saturday, 19 January 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link

sure looks like it

sleeve, Saturday, 19 January 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link

It’s been at the top of every story I’ve heard on the topic

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 19 January 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link

It’s been at the top of every story I’ve heard on the topic

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 19 January 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link

Pelosi isnt gonna take some bullshit deal she didnt have a hand in negotiating, this is just a PR stunt

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 January 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link

xp i just heard the front end of a local march speech by someone i think is good, and right off she had to thank the crowd for standing up in the face of 'rising anti-semitism and rising anti-immigrant rhetoric' (she was talking abt immigration issues)

j., Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:01 (five years ago) link

Dems say no thanks. pic.twitter.com/ijbUggUFcV

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) January 19, 2019

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:17 (five years ago) link

Last sentence of that statement is what I want to hear.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 19 January 2019 20:34 (five years ago) link

Hey, full morning already!

“but be careful Nancy!” This is the language of a hostage-taker pic.twitter.com/Ys4th5TQ2Z

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 20, 2019

dems can now point to this tweet and fairly argue that by holding the line they’re preventing mass deportations of 10M people

— Women For Kilgore Trout (@KT_So_It_Goes) January 20, 2019

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link

Also

Rudolph Giuliani tells @CNNSotu that Trump may indeed have spoken to Michael Cohen about his congressional testimony beforehand. "And so what if he talked to him about it?" Denies Trump told Cohen to lie.

— Jon Swaine (@jonswaine) January 20, 2019

.@GStephanopoulos: "Did Donald Trump know that Michael Cohen was pursuing the Trump Tower in Moscow into the summer of 2016?"

Rudy Giuliani: "According to the answer that he gave, it would have covered all the way up to... November of 2016." https://t.co/kEzanELn3I pic.twitter.com/kxSUAXFhtk

— ABC News (@ABC) December 16, 2018

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:07 (five years ago) link

💥BAM! Rudy just said: "Collusion is not a crime; it was over with by the time of the election." That's some goal-post-moving confession right there.

He also said Trump told the special counsel that he pursued Trump Tower Moscow deal all the way to November 2016. https://t.co/TIuXX2NOJX

— Jennifer Taub (@jentaub) January 20, 2019

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link

Buzzfeed guys were on CNN a few minutes ago and they were pretty adamant their story was sound.

frogbs, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link

^^^

BuzzFeed News is strongly standing by its Michael Cohen story. BF reporter @a_cormier_:“I have further confirmation that this is right. We are being told to stand our ground…The same sources that we used in that story are standing behind it, as are we.”
pic.twitter.com/f0asZFEDFK

— andrew kaczynski (@KFILE) January 20, 2019

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link

one obvious thing about the special counsel's statement on the buzzfeed story that i haven't heard anyone say: what the fuck is with the placement of the second comma? for such an important, carefully worded statement, wtf happened there? it's impossible to read out loud without sounding like a mistake was made

"BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate."

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link

looks like two hours ago trump retweeted the father of really dumb teenage fartknocker jacob wohl, who claimed he knew of someone with a claim that mueller sexually assaulted her before holding a disastrous press conference in a holiday inn in front of a couple dozen angry journalists and several thousand confused people on periscope, whose tweet begins "Journalism is DEAD."

good mourning!

Karl Malone, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:59 (five years ago) link

Did Fox touch that story? I thought everybody I was aware of running it played it as broad farce so it might have undermined the Fox message. So if he's not looking at any other news sources he might not be aware of it. Plus it was more than 5 minutes ago so who remembers things like that?

Stevolende, Sunday, 20 January 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link

I don’t think Fox ran with it. But not that he’s at all discerning about who and what he amplifies.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 20 January 2019 18:02 (five years ago) link

Did the Pres just say he'd offer amnesty if Pelosi held out for a bigger deal? https://t.co/jNyIQImRny

— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) January 20, 2019

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 20 January 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

xpost Marcy Wheeler piece on the Buzzfeed correction (plus recent WaPo piece) pretty useful. In the Post they reveal the correction may have come at the behest of Rod Rosenstein, which may mean indeed that it came at the insistence of Whitaker; both are I assume privy to what Mueller has, but only one is probably actively trying to protect Trump. Yet as Wheeler points out, Buzzfeed's sources are likely in SDNY, not from Mueller (who does not leak). Cohen is a cooperating witness for Mueller but *not* for SDNY, which means they have different uses for him (and slightly different investigation/prosecution strategies). The vague correction might have been a way to keep this matter at arm's length for Mueller, because they will need Cohen's testimony to bolster evidence and also Cohen's own claims, since Mueller's focus is not necessarily on the president (who can't be indicted) but on his cohort (who can). Ergo the Buzzfeed story can be not wholly accurate, as far as Mueller is concerned, yet at the same time entirely accurate, as far as SDNY is concerned.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 January 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

Did the Pres just say he'd offer amnesty...

Even if he said it unambiguously and repeated it five times, it doesn't mean he would do it. This man doesn't fuck around when it comes to lying or going back on his word.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 20 January 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link

I keep thinking if there are 11 million people hear illegally, they must be working somewhere. It seems like if they had gone after the people that have been getting cheap under the table illegal work force bypassing current labor laws, they probably could fix their problem. How many billions of unpaid taxes are in that group. The thing is the same people that are all build the wall are the same ones using the illegal cheap labor. They tried this back in the 90s and the industries balked about 'regulation'. Don't see at all why this is not a bigger part of the narrative by either side in this debate other than both sides like taking money from people exploiting these employees.

earlnash, Sunday, 20 January 2019 22:42 (five years ago) link

you really don’t see why? hmm...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 22:49 (five years ago) link

During Trump's shut down, E-Verify is down.

Checking employment eligibility of potential hires was by far the most effective means of deterring undocumented immigration, but some knob wants steel slats that will face a decade of environmental lawsuits and never be built, and threw the gates wide open.

dancing the Radioactive Flesh (Sanpaku), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link

they chant "build the wall" because it lends their whiteness a further prestige.

whoa is me (stevie), Monday, 21 January 2019 06:56 (five years ago) link

Fox & Friends Apologizes for Accidental Graphic Saying Ruth Bader Ginsburg is Dead https://t.co/mR2CxtLbKJ pic.twitter.com/mVZFSbbygQ

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) January 21, 2019

frogbs, Monday, 21 January 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link

“This was a technical error that emanated from the graphics team.”

We accidentally made a graphic.

jmm, Monday, 21 January 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link

why can’t someone “accidentally” run over Steve Doocey with a forklift

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 21 January 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link

Why can't someone 'accidentally' permanently disable Fox News's ability to broadcast?

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Monday, 21 January 2019 14:46 (five years ago) link

very sinister

Trϵϵship, Monday, 21 January 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link

i don't understand how something like that could happen

Trϵϵship, Monday, 21 January 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link

obit stuff is often made ahead of time, nothing malicious, just being prepared. so this is just a problem with an entry in a database somewhere.

koogs, Monday, 21 January 2019 15:15 (five years ago) link

“This was a technical error that emanated from the graphics team.”

i.e. Technically, it's an error. She's not dead yet.

Mark G, Monday, 21 January 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link


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