TS: RYM vs. Metacritic

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BAN LJ

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 18 January 2019 08:20 (five years ago) link

post the image here so we can rightfully shame it

ufo, Friday, 18 January 2019 08:30 (five years ago) link

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3859399155_16.jpg

if you look closely, you will notice that this is a leopard, rather than a lion

imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 08:39 (five years ago) link

What you have to understand, imago, is that RYM always had an inferiority complex relative to discogs. In the early days, serious music fans would pick on RYM for laughable mistakes, inconsistencies, missing information and the likes. It got to them, RYM was like: "our survival is at stake".
I limit my contributions to adding singles from itunes and suggesting merges, and some of the time I don't even bother about adding a random digital single cover for an entry that will be rated by 5 people in the next 8 years.

Nabozo, Friday, 18 January 2019 09:45 (five years ago) link

Have you ever seen Wiki edits talk pages ? Contributing there is probably making the Devil go pale and embarrassed. And yet what a beautiful internet creation... you need the devil you see (sorry, I've just read Doctor Faustus)

Nabozo, Friday, 18 January 2019 09:48 (five years ago) link

See this is why I only add primarily digital releases if any

don't let's be beastly to the gammons (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 18 January 2019 10:51 (five years ago) link

I don't use RYM for classical music at all because their catalogue is glaringly incomplete and manually adding each work, which requires that you post the details to a specific subforum where it will take at least 24h for your submission to be approved by Cerberus-like mods – not to mention the fact that the performers' entries are routinely lacking as well – is a full-time unpaid internship. For non-classical music, however, I've never had much trouble adding new bands/releases/album covers, perhaps because they were all on Bandcamp.

pomenitul, Friday, 18 January 2019 11:19 (five years ago) link

yeah that's what I did here, but the image from Bandcamp - the only image online, pretty much - was the 'wrong shape', I despair tbh

imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 11:34 (five years ago) link

I suppose you can save it to your computer and resize it before uploading it right back. I've had to do that before, now that I think of it.

pomenitul, Friday, 18 January 2019 11:43 (five years ago) link

all sorted now thankfully - key to my restored privileges being my politeness and calm, apologetic response. 2007 LJ is looking on at me in envy

and yeah I do understand the need for a precise database. there is an element of preserving history to all this which I get

imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 15:00 (five years ago) link

even so that sounds awfully pedantic. like I've added tracklistings and times to albums and had them held up because I put I "owned" the release which meant I had a CD with a catalogue # and label and they wouldn't approve until I had that, when the reality is I lost the CD long ago

that said as a general resource I think RYM is pretty nice - I've discovered a lot of great stuff through there

frogbs, Friday, 18 January 2019 15:11 (five years ago) link

well yeah it's absolutely key to my listening habits

imago, Friday, 18 January 2019 15:12 (five years ago) link

on consideration i am impressed at how much rym has improved over the past decade, especially considering the constant influx of 4chan users. to deal with that while consistently improving the quality of the reviews and the ratings is an accomplishment imo. i think the comparison to wikipedia is a good one, but unlike wikipedia rym doesn't have the "npov" fig leaf. adapting the wikipedia model to a site that is pretty much nothing _but_ subjective opinions... again, an accomplishment imo.

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:13 (five years ago) link

IMDB is pretty much the model here I guess.

Siegbran, Friday, 18 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Just discovered this 'Best of Rate Your Music' twitter & am loving it:

pic.twitter.com/0MtnqR1UCA

— Best of RateYourMusic (@Rateyrmusic) April 27, 2019

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

*nervously scans twitter feed*

might have a few good review submissions for there, notably

https://rateyourmusic.com/review?id=44402954

and

https://rateyourmusic.com/review?id=4612007

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

also this which I suspect might be too *good* for that feed

https://rateyourmusic.com/review?id=26968079

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

lol those are all incredible

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link

Yeah one of my first thoughts was “please don’t let me be on this feed”, but I don’t think I posted any true fuckwittery during my brief affair with RYM long ago

One Eye Open, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link

off the current topic but i enjoy being an asshole in the album comment boxes rym added a few years ago

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link

yeah i have tons of shitty rym meme reviews from when i was old enough that i should have known better. i'm very grateful because some mods are going through and "unpublishing" all of them so unless you're my friend there you won't know what a bozo i was

nowadays of course i'm much better and write essays analyzing old genesis bootlegs from a trans perspective

rym comment boxes are one step above youtube comments and should go away but i occasionally post the shit that would've gone in my meme reviews there

my real vice is the message boards, which is 90% teenage canon-builders talking about which radiohead record is best and 10% people recommending serbian punk records nobody outside of serbia has ever heard of, i love this board but it alone can't feed my jones

Burt Bacharach's Bees (rushomancy), Thursday, 2 May 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link

hah yeah I've had a number of my reviews 'unpublished', including a lot of my best ones

I understand why the comment boxes are there, it's kind of nice that every album gets its own discussion thread now, and it keeps a lot of the shit out of the reviews. wish they were a bit more interactive though

nowadays of course i'm much better and write essays analyzing old genesis bootlegs from a trans perspective

yeah see this is why I love RYM actually

frogbs, Thursday, 2 May 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

i've had some of my most _popular_ reviews unpublished. initially i was a little put out by it, but in the long run it does make the site better, because back when they would host any old shit the stuff that got "liked" most were the dumb joke reviews rather than anything that had any kind of actual thought or effort put into it. not only is "publishing any old shit" a really bad idea for an internet site in 2019, but establishing some sort of editorial control goes a long way towards making the site better

nowadays the stuff that gets "liked" the most are long lists of random records three people have heard, and i'm ok with that, except insofar as we tend to "like" the lists without actually listening to any of the records

the other thing i find really interesting, because it's as far as i can tell deliberately obscure, is that they do have some fairly advanced anti-brigading features in their ranking algorithms. it's complicated, but in practical terms it seems like basically only ratings between 2.5 and 4 are counted towards the overall score of a record

Burt Bacharach's Bees (rushomancy), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

that twitter feed accepted my Hulk Hogan suggestion and found...so much more

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The guitar riffs here are some of the coolest I've heard. I spent a whole summer smoking pot in my parents garage learning to play this album on the guitar and I would be a shitty person if I had not done that. You'd probably agree that you are lame compared to me, while reading this. I'd agree, and then add that Possessed should thank me for writing this review. You're welcome!

this five star review of possessed's seven churches is easily the best thing i've ever read on rym and one of the greatest pieces of music writing of all time

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/0GMbUMqkkW

— Best of RateYourMusic (@Rateyrmusic) May 19, 2019

that LOL in the end kills me

frogbs, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

Fine melodic rock album. Well done, Alias guys. I am an AOR lover and a grunge hater. Unfortunately, no one can change a history, I mean a lot of great bands were blown away in 90s by the ugly form of music as grunge is. Well, it happened with the band of question. Alias debut offering the almost perfect AOR material with the strong Curci's vocals as the distinctive feature. To be quite honest, tracks of second half of the release are not so great as the first part, so I can give them about 3,75 stars.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link

letmetrythisname 09 Aug 2017 02:37 GMT

Mambo No. 0.5

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Kk1QV2x.jpg

tandoor vittles (unregistered), Thursday, 30 May 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

I’m sure people have listened to the stuff they rate on Rate Your Music

brimstead, Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link

a horrible website

dyl, Sunday, 7 July 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

RYM's ratings and forums are dominated by metal fans and pompous The Wire readers. Bit I still like the lists thing, the ones made by single users not generated from ratings.

And filtering down to single genres, even the ratings lists are useful. For instance they have helped me disover some nice 2000s synthpop gems. Johan Bäckström, for instance.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link

And not just metal fans, the worst kind: progressive metal fans.

But yes the genre charts are absolutely fantastic for discovering new (old) stuff, infinitely better than any Spotify AI suggestion algorithm.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

https://theshfl.com

mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link

ha the first recommendation I got was from a Lex review

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

so proud that rym is finally beginning to take female artists seriously:

https://i.imgur.com/rpKyLDw.jpg

(from the comment box for the Doja Cat/SZA collab)

in walked airbud (unregistered), Thursday, 5 August 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://i.imgur.com/niLqGMY.jpg

in walked airbud (unregistered), Thursday, 2 September 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

Twitter brain

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 September 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link

Yeah, def. If there's a prime example of an artist that could only exist under capitalism, it's obviously "the boss."

swim, Thursday, 2 September 2021 22:29 (two years ago) link

(In a neighboring timeline, there's an awful Yakov Smirnoff bit about a soviet answer to Springsteen called "the worker".)

swim, Thursday, 2 September 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link

enjoyed this exchange i just stumbled upon

https://i.imgur.com/UtAi8BO.png

ciderpress, Friday, 3 September 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link

GOD DAMMIT WHAT WAS THE ALBUM NOW I HAVE TO KNOW

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Saturday, 4 September 2021 00:16 (two years ago) link

I hate Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes and all that as much as anyone, but at the same time I don't know any other sites that collate links to reviews like that, so I use them both ten times a day.

Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 4 September 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link

even I don't know what album that is and I wrote the posts lmao

he ain't perfect but fuck me he's a rheillee (imago), Saturday, 4 September 2021 08:55 (two years ago) link

ohhhh it's that Silverchair side-project, obvs :D

he ain't perfect but fuck me he's a rheillee (imago), Saturday, 4 September 2021 08:57 (two years ago) link

(the song in question is Somewhere Down The Barrel)

he ain't perfect but fuck me he's a rheillee (imago), Saturday, 4 September 2021 08:59 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

rym absolutely adores the new bruno mars album so i'm not sure what planet i'm on

ufo, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 11:06 (two years ago) link

#2 for the year?? damn I almost wanna check that out.

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 November 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link

it's a solid 70s pastiche, not at all a bad album but not really anything special either, so it's just baffling the way they've latched onto it this much. like rym is still not that interested in soul or r&b more generally so why this of all things lol. does .paak's involvement add sufficient cred to the project or something idk

ufo, Thursday, 18 November 2021 02:42 (two years ago) link

Part of it could also be that the weirdos that live in the rym comment boxes just aren't familiar with the source material that is being pastiched here

lol idk how true this is, but that's similar to what i'm pondering. i've tried with anderson paak as well and have had a similar reaction: this is decent, but i don't think i like it as much as the rest of you seem to.

that being said, i really wanted to like it because i do feel like bruno and anderson are genuinely talented dudes. but i've found them underwhelming on record so far.

the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Thursday, 18 November 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

I love Malibu but that's the only album I've heard of Paak's that I would rate highly

Vinnie, Thursday, 18 November 2021 23:32 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

ugh why do i care rym sucks

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, November 18, 2021 7:31 AM (nine months ago) bookmarkflaglink

damn i gotta keep returning to this post, especially after this happened:

https://i.imgur.com/ti4uOoK.png

not that it's apparent that i'm a woman i guess (i think i refused to declare my gender on rym for my entire time there? wow, must've been a sign)

rym def the worst place on the internet i inhabit and i think it's gotta end

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 22:10 (one year ago) link

be careful declaring someone's assumed pronouns on the internet you may ruin some trans person's day lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

oh my god i can't believe a person with pronouns misgendered me

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link

yeesh sorry. tbf RYM is about as trans-friendly (and trans-populated) an internet space as I can think of and the moderation staff will absolutely take your side here

imago, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

ugh the user who said that to you is an idiot with abysmal taste

imago, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

it's ok! i don't care! it's a horrible website!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

:( it is better for having you drop by into shoutboxes of unfancied albums and declaring them the best thing ever, cheered me no end to see you doing your thing in the LTTP box

imago, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link

yeesh sorry. tbf RYM is about as trans-friendly (and trans-populated) an internet space as I can think of and the moderation staff will absolutely take your side here

― imago

lotta overspill from /tttt/ though, lotta fucked up people with some fucked up bullshit going on who take it out on other folks :( the staff do the best they can but there is a _lot_ of bullshit and assholery for them to deal with.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 1 September 2022 04:58 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Anybody else getting nearly constant phishing warnings when using RYM the past few days? Seems like it’s some issue with the autoplay ads, because it only seems to be when I click on artist and album pages with those.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 February 2024 04:54 (two months ago) link

anyone using albumoftheyear.org ? looks like rym but has critic reviews like metacritic.

formerly abanana (dat), Friday, 2 February 2024 06:26 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

https://rateyourmusic.com/rdescriptor/set?album_id=257953

six members of the RateYourMusic.com (RYM) community don't believe Sisqó's Y2K sex jam "Thong Song" is humorous (i.e. "uses comedy to reflect a sense of humor towards the relevant subject matter", not "I personally find this song amusing") and accordingly voted against the "humorous" descriptor on the single's release page. of the seventeen descriptors the community voted on, "humorous" is the only one that got rejected due to an accumulation of downvotes. even "epic" passed muster! if properly publicized, this revelation will trigger the death of RYM, the cancellation of Sharifi, and the termination of Project Sonemic.

hogarth brooks (unregistered), Sunday, 14 April 2024 00:56 (one week ago) link

We have every reason to believe that Sisqó treated the subject of thongs with the utmost seriousness

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 14 April 2024 01:23 (one week ago) link

I don't doubt that Sisqó is sincere in his horniness! but that's exactly what makes it comedic: the fact that he sings about buttfloss with a passion that singers normally reserve for their soulmates, or Jesus, or world peace. also "dumps like a truck (uh), truck (uh), truck (uh)". it's pure OTT heterosexual camp, and it would be a huge stretch to say the humor wasn't intentional. those rymers are insane

hogarth brooks (unregistered), Sunday, 14 April 2024 02:06 (one week ago) link


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