Royal Trux : Classic or Dud ?

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investors jumping from windows

calumy (rip van wanko), Thursday, 17 January 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link

I've been thinking for a while I hope Neil didn't burn his bridges at Drag City. I don't think it'd be very easy to convince a label to put out Howling Hex records right now.

Mike Dixn, Friday, 18 January 2019 00:11 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfKblFXTh6s&feature=youtu.be

new video, with no neil (though not much jennifer either tbf)

na (NA), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

love it

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

new MOJO has an awesome Trux feature with lots of infighting during and after the interview

whoa is me (stevie), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link

Another new song... feelin' it even less than the others, TBH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NONE3HlzhkM

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link

It all feels like such a weak facsimile of the late-'90s Trux concept.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:18 (five years ago) link

(plus, y'know, they're not very good songs)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:25 (five years ago) link

everyone probably loved Accelerator because 'Liar' has the greatest riff ever.

that riff is quite good but lame compared to "mouth breather" by the jesus lizard.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

"Mouth Breather" sounds like the "Dancing Days" riff, transmitted into 1990 Chicago via a scuzz-rock fax machine (this is not a value judgment, btw)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 4 February 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link

I've been seeing promos of "White Stuff" all over social media for the past three weeks but I finally listened to the full song just now, and it don't sound bad to me at all

I'm down with "Every Day Swan" too

slack thompson (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 21:18 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

and mark this for following this dumb b.s. but they put out a record that i hadn't heard and still haven't heard and then lied and said I had approved it

— Neil Hagerty (@TheHowlingHex) February 22, 2019

he was tweeting other stuff that seemed related to the new album this morning

na (NA), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link

"basically a debtors' prison situation" yeesh

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link

The “tour” is back on, new dates announced y’day... but who would buy tix now?

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link

dunno, literally the only place there's any indication of this stuff is hagerty's twitter! kind of surprised someone hasn't dug deeper into it (possible I've missed an article, not sure)

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2019 15:47 (five years ago) link

haw

TOUR TALK..... best believe. pic.twitter.com/e4XLIYJtcm

— ROYAL TRUX (@realroyaltrux) February 22, 2019

(of course this is from last november)

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

Wonder if he’s cool w/his email addy getting out there (remember in the ‘90s when it was something like “karlmar✧✧✧@a✧✧.c✧✧”?)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link

(weird, that censorship was some ILX auto thing)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

neil hagerty has the weirdest range of interests of any 'celebrity' i can think of. just a strange dude.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link

i mean for long stretches he seems almost painfully 'normie' and then he posts about some truly strange shit and you remember he was (is?) in royal trux.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link

he's also incredibly online, which i would not have predicted had you asked me a decade or two ago.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

he seems like a chill guy who likes cool stuff

na (NA), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

that's another way to put it.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link

i guess you might expect something edgier

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link

he doesn't seem very chill about the economics of touring w/ trux, tbf

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link

He’s a pretty intelligent dude. He’s written v good essays on a variety of general interest subjects (many of which collected in a book, “Public Works”).

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

ooh, i hadn't known about that, thank you

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

Looks like the situation finally got a write-up/investigation:

https://www.stereogum.com/2033256/royal-trux-twitter-drama/wheres-the-beef/

yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 23 February 2019 20:14 (five years ago) link

Now someone's spoken to Neil:

http://dustedmagazine.tumblr.com/post/183074880168/royal-trux-white-stuff-fat-possum

After tracking the record in June 2018, Hagerty split due to an unspecified disagreement. Herrema and a bundle of friends worked the tracks into their album versions — hence the Bitches Brew approach — and submitted the record to Fat Possum, along with assurance that Hagerty had approved.

He had not. And when contacted for comment said he still hasn’t heard any of the music from the record. He did, however, say that Fat Possum has handled the situation “the best they could,” and noted he was “overjoyed” not to be working with the band’s previous label.

[...]

“The operative vision for me on this was Sunset Boulevard and I tried not to end up in the pool” Hagerty said when asked about the record. “If she had just told me it was going to be a solo thing I would have been fine with it but the way they are trying to drag me back into it now is degenerate stuff.”

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link

That's interesting. I really don't think I've ever heard anything particularly awful about Drag City. Wonder what that's all about.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 20:18 (five years ago) link

Yeah, me too...

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 20:21 (five years ago) link

This is "out there'. Gave it one listen and all i can say - as a longtime Trux fan --Summer Album! Instantly catchy.

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 February 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link

yeah i don't hate this on first listen. as expected, it's way more in jennifer's aesthetic than neil's, lots of processing and overlapping vocals and lyrics about rock and roll. one weird thing i noticed is that there are almost no moments with neil singing without jennifer doubling his vocals. it makes me wonder if he was singing along with her guide vocals. unexpectedly "suburban junky lady" might be the best song on here.

i hated the kool keith song when i heard it as an advance single. i liked it more this time but it doesn't belong on a "royal trux" album. should've saved it for judgement night 2.

na (NA), Friday, 1 March 2019 20:01 (five years ago) link

Publicity photos of the duo (see above) were clearly photoshopped together;

lol

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link

I bought a ticket for the Toronto show late last year, and after it got postponed it was honoured for the new date, but who knows what'll happen. I have some doubts about their ability to make it across the border, haha.

In the meantime, I put up a few lesser-circulated live shows on a throwaway channel if anyone's interested, including this one, a Neil/Jen 'acoustic' esque set from 97 with a couple of rarities (Air!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR_ubZRoN04

whitehallunity, Saturday, 2 March 2019 14:32 (five years ago) link

Thanks!

yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:31 (five years ago) link

xpost Excellent! Thanks ( and good luck with that Toronto show)!

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 2 March 2019 16:17 (five years ago) link

This new album sucks hard :(

yuh yuh (morrisp), Monday, 4 March 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link

whitehallunity -- that 1995 promotional film you posted on YT is awesome!

yuh yuh (morrisp), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link

(Oh, haha, I've seen this before... it's the one where Neil sprays the phone!)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Monday, 4 March 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link

I don't even want to bother. "White Stuff" - give me a break already.

timellison, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 02:06 (five years ago) link

Yeah, it’s the pits. The last few tracks are passable, but I don’t think I’ll ever queue it up again.

A bad “Royal Trux” album — who thought we’d ever see it?

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 02:53 (five years ago) link

yeah, oof, it's not good. i almost wonder if neil getting all weird about it was partly due to his recognitiion that it isn't good and wanting to distance himself from it.

where's the link to the 1995 trux film?

has anyone ever watched the VHS what is royal trux? released by drag city in the early 1990s?

it's like a tour documentary slash very very flaky sci-fi thing. neil and jennifer in junkie phase.

https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/3/2/2/3/6/webimg/290328293_o.jpg

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:08 (five years ago) link

ok, of course, like everything else in the world, it's on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDo6aB_pXdk

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:10 (five years ago) link

hmm so should i not see them?

flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 03:24 (five years ago) link

lol Petridish and all that, but that is a really good feature

Neil S, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 10:01 (five years ago) link

I'd watch the shit out of a Royal Trux biopic.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 10:26 (five years ago) link

a royal trux biopic that faithfully represented the band's history would be an extremely strange and upsetting movie

invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 10:35 (five years ago) link

Harmony Korine has already considered it (no citation needed).

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 10:41 (five years ago) link


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