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I feel like there are different types of SBS (Shitty Black Sabbath) bands -- like there are the ones that mimic the slow dirgey stuff and then there are the ones that do veritable covers of Paranoid

xp Evan - being the drummer sucks too actually -- I've sat in on sets like that, also boring. But yeah, bassist always has to make the bigger sacrifice - tru

I would feel really guilty being the guitarist in that scenario; having all the fun, making them keep going and going until I decide I'm finally done screwing around...

Listened to The Wall adter the discussion and was startled by how well it connected: meticulous sonics, hysterical squawking, raging bitterness, and all.

xp. hey, the bassist gets to do little variations on that bass thing he's doing over and over every so often

I would think if you're baked, it's probably kinda fun to play the same bassline for 45 minutes. Like, you get into a trance or something. Also, for every hundred shitty bands who utilize this model, there's Les Rallizes Denudes.

But yeah, file most of this stuff under "music that's more fun to perform than to listen to"

"Peace and Love" is as good as any album the Pogues ever released.

good extra finger on the cover too

I'll rep for waiting for Herb

lol that was my first Pogues and I was mondo confused cos it sounded nothing like people told me they sounded like. didn't realize it wasn't one of the "classic" Pogues albs until later

(xxx's & p's) The connection btw. pot and slow/bassy music is overstated, at least in my experience (and, I guess, "controversial opinion"). That kind of thing never sounded particularly good to me when stoned. In fact, pot would bring treble to the foreground for me -- guitar lines, organ, etc. would crystallize and glow, and the rest of the music would fade a few notches into the background.

going upthread I love stoner and its offshoots, doom, funeral doom, etc, and a lot of droney stuff, but there's some of it where I want to tap the guy next to me and ask "this is a put on, right?"

I'll rep for waiting for Herb

― calumy (rip van wanko), Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:33 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

+2. "Once Upon A Time" is a perfect pop tune, and "Tuesday Morning" is great too

The comment line is that Shane wrote all the good songs and the other guys were just okay and stepped in as needed, but Peace and Love & beyond showed they were great songwriters too.

I would feel really guilty being the guitarist in that scenario; having all the fun, making them keep going and going until I decide I'm finally done screwing around...

You can't be a guitarist, guitarists do not suffer from guilt.

proto-arcade fire nothing, he copped that from john lennon

Ha

James Blake albums are like a party that you don't want to go to but you go anyway and then you have a good time despite yourself but you still hate the fact that you're there

Agreed, except for the part about having a good time.

You can't be a guitarist, guitarists do not suffer from guilt.

― Never Turn Your Back On Virginia Woolf (Tom D.), Thursday, January 17, 2019 7:34 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am a guiltarist

JETHRO TULL > PINK FLOYD

Not that controversial but I felt like sharing anyways

A lot of 90s folk is better than a lot of 60s folk

A lot of 90s folk is better than a lot of 60s folk

― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin)

i am intrigued by your thesis and would be interested in examples (i haven't heard much 90s folk!)

Bonnie 'Prince' Billy, Elliott Smith, Neutral Milk Hotel, The Mountain Goats, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, Sebadoh, maybe? If so, I'm not exactly convinced – and I like all of these guys.

I think what I have in mind is more like Julie Miller, Richard Shindell, Dar Williams, Mary Lou Lord, Richard Thompson (of that era), Emmylou Harris (of that era), James Keelaghan, John Wesley Harding, Nanci Griffith, Kate Rusby, Shawn Colvin, Lucinda Williams, Buddy Miller, Cheri Knight, Lucy Kaplansky, Cry Cry Cry, Jonatha Brooke / the Story, Greg Brown.

Some overlaps there between what I am loosely calling "90s folk" with what other, smarter people might classify as alt-country, neo-trad, or Americana.

I think the only artist on pomenitul's list that resonates with mine is Elliot Smith, mainly for the Mary Lou Lord connection.

When I can get to a laptop I will put together a few links to better demonstrate what I mean by "90s folk."

In the 90s, I'm more familiar with so-called indie folk, hence my list. 'Americana' and 'alt country' veer closer to what I hear in those artists you just named, but I agree that it's a debatable demarcation.

Also Robert Earl Keen, the Nields, I am sure I will think of more.

Further, to be totally inclusive you should also consider the 90s output of folk artists of prior decades who kept working. Paul Simon, Joni Mitchell, Joan Baez, James Taylor, Jackson Browne, Bob Dylan, CSN+Y were all still making records at the time (for good or for ill).

Rhythm of the Saints is from 1990. Is that "90s folk" or "world music" or "folk-rock" or pop?

Not what I consider folk but fuck a genre label anyway.

Instinctively, I'd refute this, but would happily listen to a 90s playlist to test it out...

If at least a substantial chunk of your core work isn't trad songs then you're not folk imo

on reflection my opinion is more complicated than that but I'm not that into "folk" as a generic for singer-songwriters, even those predominantly using acoustic instruments, possibly sans accompanying band

my "folk" genre tags are all over the place, even beyond the "original/trad" split a whole bunch of it is international folk music.

i don't know. i'm not a purist, i guess.

Not what I consider folk but fuck a genre label anyway.

― Never Turn Your Back On Virginia Woolf (Tom D.), Saturday, January 19, 2019 3:44 AM (seven hours ago)

otm!

I'm all for personalized genre labels

Whatever makes finding things easier

i find it to be a delicate balance. on the one hand i don't want to have everything not from the anglosphere labelled "world", that's too vague to be terribly useful, but at the same time i have exactly one song tagged as "zhabdro gorgom" and i don't really ever think to myself "man i want to listen to some zhabdro gorgom today".

but there definitely should be some room for individual preference, "western swing" for instance is a useful genre name for me but probably wouldn't be for most people.

Paul Weller's solo work is, on the whole, very good.

good one! could fill pages.

Happy birthday Dolly Parton, 99% of your discography is crap

99% of rap mixtapes sound the same

99% of your discography is crap

Wrong opinions

yeah, rude

I think we have a winner

rush were a better band than yes

Definitely more consistent

not even a question for me but I love Rush so much

I love Rush too, but I tried listening to them last week for the first time in maybe 10 years. I needed a palate cleanser after all the PINK FLOYD around these parts. It was wonderful and all, Geddy's voice seems so much more ridiculous to me now than it did back when I really liked them. Like, it has not become more acceptable to me. It was like listening to Ween.

unacceptable probably the wrong emotion. Just nonsensical.

Even Roger Waters's vocals are a palate cleanser next to Geddy fucking Lee. I'd love Rush otherwise.

Geddy Lee has the voice of an angel