Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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i like a long podcast myself

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:32 (five years ago) link

try Dan Carlin

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:33 (five years ago) link

i don't like dan carlin because my BA is in history and i just object to half of the things he says

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link

because it's for a layman's audience (or he is just lazy) and he simplifies to an absurd degree

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:36 (five years ago) link

heard an episode where he was talking about the frankfurt school and steam was coming out my ears

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link

i like a long, rambling podcast because i almost always listen to them in the background or when i'm trying to fall asleep. Chapo & Red Scare are great for naps ime

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

ha ha I just meant that Carlin always drops 4 hour long podcasts

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:55 (five years ago) link

he's got the length but perhaps not the width

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 19:57 (five years ago) link

Dan Carlin is the worst

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link

I’m finishing up an episode on the mechanics of conspiracy theory that’s just under two hours. I could chop it in half but my release schedule is already highly artitrary so I’m thinking of just posting it whole to let folks enjoy it for a while.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 17 January 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link

I think this merits a "holy shit"

Update: The red shirt-clad guy is Phil Dershowitz, a biophysics PhD student at Iowa State and a cousin of Alan Dershowitz's. He's a socialist fan of @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE and @PplPolicyProj, and he'll vote for the furthest left candidate in the field. https://t.co/kPEybm0MGZ

— Daniel Marans (@danielmarans) January 19, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 00:33 (five years ago) link

also, lol @ The Baffler for having to retract Amber's pro-Bernie tract for being too explicitly partisan

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link

Did they really?? Wow

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 01:56 (five years ago) link

Must be an interesting editorial process they have over there

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:04 (five years ago) link

Weirder and worse to have published it in the first place probably

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:37 (five years ago) link

godDAMN son

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 02:39 (five years ago) link

Have p much stopped any regular listening, should probably cancel the patreon at this point. Virgil is too earnest and wonky and makes it feel only a hair away from being just any old political podcast, and the other guys’ schtick feels a bit spent. Also hearing them act dumbfounded by Trump is not rendered more interesting by peppering it with Adam Curtis terms.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 06:31 (five years ago) link

Wait, waht, why would the Baffler feel the need to retract what was a pretty boilerplate left wing op-ed?

Master Humphrey's Cock (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 09:09 (five years ago) link

in the tank for #kucinich2020 iirc

“I'm the sexy gorilla and I'm going to hell“ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 09:54 (five years ago) link

I've been enjoying it more as a lefty news digest than anything else, though I've realized I listen for Matt's takes far more than anyone else's. He ended up completely otm on the cov cath shithead with the "shaming era is over" bit

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 11:24 (five years ago) link

The Baffler, which focuses on left-wing politics and culture, is owned by The Baffler Foundation, a 501(c)3 nonprofit, it is legally prohibited from endorsing any candidate for public office.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link

this looks promising

Sean KB recorded an ep with fellow history nerd, Matt Christman of The Chapo Trap House, who is similarly tyrannized by the weight of dead generations.

The question: Why, of all advanced capitalist countries, is the United States unique in its historical failure to form a bone-fide Labour/Socialist party organically tied to the union movement as an institutionalized political expression of working class interests? The answers may surprise you.

https://theantifada.fans.fm/listen/54v

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:04 (five years ago) link

Also, lol at this totally shocking and unexpected reprint (with one key change)

https://jacobinmag.com/2019/01/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-democratic-primary-baffler-amber-frost

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link

TOO HOTT FOR THE BAFF

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link

Eww grow the beard back

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 11:31 (five years ago) link

Shout out platonic ideal of weepy horny beard guy in background

Master Humphrey's Cock (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 1 February 2019 11:50 (five years ago) link

Young socialist planning a run for congress is currently doing an AMA over on the CTH subreddit. Sounds like he has a tough race ahead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/alpx4s/im_joshua_collins_im_a_democratic_socialist_truck/

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link

Honest question: What's the point of a minimum wage if you also have a federal job guarantee that pays more than minimum wage? Why would anyone work minimum wage, then? Also, wtf at calling Venezuela for Iraq 2.0?

Frederik B, Friday, 1 February 2019 14:20 (five years ago) link

The last one might be less honest. But wouldn't Venezuela at least be Iraq 4.0 or something? I thought Hillary had created a couple more Iraqs just on her own.

Frederik B, Friday, 1 February 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link

He seems pretty upfront about his individual policy goals still being formed to some degree

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link

His edibles strategy seems pretty sensible.

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link

twitch isn't really my thing but the ChapoFYM crew are doing a 24-hour charity stream in support of RAICES

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 1 February 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link

this show has become so much less funny since the new year and feature far too much matt christman shouting in lieu of actual humour.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 2 February 2019 08:20 (five years ago) link

*features

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 2 February 2019 08:20 (five years ago) link

Honest question: What's the point of a minimum wage if you also have a federal job guarantee that pays more than minimum wage? Why would anyone work minimum wage, then?

depends on what the fed job is

flopson, Saturday, 2 February 2019 08:31 (five years ago) link

So the idea is to use money to create jobs so shitty that people don't really want them?

Frederik B, Saturday, 2 February 2019 10:08 (five years ago) link

This is the kind of policies I would come up with and I mean this in the least flattering way possible. That's not even the problem here. Doing an AMA only on the chapo trap house reddit is some sort of feed the echo chamber self-congratulation a lot of the left needs to stop doing.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 2 February 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link

as a lefty fringe candidate, getting your fundraising appeal pinned to a subreddit with like 77k leftists on it seems pretty ideal to me

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 2 February 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link

From what I understand, recent leftist politics have been more successful the moment it engaged with something more than fringe groups.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link

But whatever i means this is how Chapo Trap House makes their dough so yeah.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:09 (five years ago) link

So the idea is to use money to create jobs so shitty that people don't really want them?

― Frederik B, Saturday, February 2, 2019 5:08 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

preferences and aptitudes for jobs are pretty diverse, so id expect some people to prefer a mw job to the JG job. some will likely prefer unemployment, too

flopson, Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link

16 months out from the primary, what should this candidate with no money and no visibility be doing instead?

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link

Isn't it more a question of doing something different for, like, years and years, so you don't try and run by chatting on reddit?

Frederik B, Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:40 (five years ago) link

It's so weird to me that there are apparently no socialist youth groups in the US you could go and be a part of so you don't have to start figuring stuff out on your own as your running.

Frederik B, Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link

do you know the history of socialism in the USA and how loaded that word is here

flappy bird, Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:52 (five years ago) link

Isn't it more a question of doing something different for, like, years and years, so you don't try and run by chatting on reddit?

I was unaware of the long history of leftism defeating itself by "running by chatting on reddit" which has existed since like 2008.

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:54 (five years ago) link

do you know the history of socialism in the USA and how loaded that word is here

― flappy bird, 2. februar 2019 23:52 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait, what does the 'S' in DSA stand for?

Frederik B, Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link

lmfao there like 5 ppl in the DSA before Trump

flappy bird, Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:14 (five years ago) link

I signed up for the Young People’s Socialist League in high school in the ‘90s (SPUSA youth org). There were five members in Texas.

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 2 February 2019 23:37 (five years ago) link


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