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my stab at a post Curtains comp:

What are you Fighting For?
Dying Slowly
Say Goodbye to the City
If You're Looking for a Way Out
Harmony Around my Table
The Other Side of the World
The Organist Entertains
Can We Start Again?
People Keep Comin' Around
Hey Lucinda
Can Our Love...
Trouble Every Day
Factory Girls
Follow Me
Until the Morning Comes

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link

it took me a decade to discover that "If You're Looking For A Way Out" is a cover of an odyssey song.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:22 (five years ago) link

I guess you might as well stick "Sometimes it Hurts" in there somewhere too.

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:23 (five years ago) link

xp to myself

to that end, i'd include another cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3hHYUlu9DY

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyRVTNsp2gs

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:26 (five years ago) link

Can anyone inform me on these recent re-issues? If I understand well there are vinyl re-issues of the first three albums or so? Funny thing is that I saw a cd-reissue of the first album with a second disc that contains demos. Amazon lists a cd re-issue of "Curtains" as well from last year but it's only a single disc, whereas at one point (2004?) there was a 2cd version. So I guess the conclusion is that there are different cd and vinyl re-issues here?

― EvR

Plain reissued the first two albums on vinyl in 2011, but the quality isn't great. Plain have a really bad reputation of low quality vinyl that is from the same source as the CD/digital. Music On Vinyl just did Curtains and Simple Pleasure. They are much more consistent with the quality of the record itself and the artwork. I picked these both up and they sound fantastic. As for the CDs, the 2004 reissues were indeed doubles but I'm not sure what the difference is with the recent reissues. I don't see much about them on Discogs.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 06:28 (five years ago) link

Right ... will compile CDs on the basis of

a) post Curtains.

b) Bottle of red one.

c) Bottle of red two.

The first of those feels quite straight-forward. I will enjoy research into the latter two.

At this exact moment, really enjoying "Piano Music" (suspect suits end of bottle 2).

djh, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 21:39 (five years ago) link

Particularly curious to see whether you think "Hey Lucinda" is a 1st bottle of red or a 2nd bottle of red type of song; i mean, it starts "come out drinking with me tonight" but quickly descends into "I only dance to remember how dancing used to feel" and other musings on how shit it is to grow old.

dorsalstop, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link

Would anything from "Minute Bodies" find its way onto any of those comps?

djh, Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link

x-post: It could be the opening track, it could be two-thirds of the way through the second disc (and it might not even get on there at all). I need to do wine/song matching.

djh, Thursday, 17 January 2019 21:05 (five years ago) link

CDR-80, post-Curtains:

Fear of Emptiness
Tricklin'
Waiting for the Moon
The Other Side of the World
Hey Lucinda
Peanuts
Can Our Love
A Night So Still
Dying Slowly
Mother Dear
How He Entered
What Are You Fighting For?
Trouble Everyday
Put Your Love In Me
Piano Music
Factory Girls.

On a different day, I'd have found space for My Oblivion and 4:48. If we'd gone for post-Dickon, I might have found space for a more curious compilation (eg. Minute Bodies ... but probably not Ypres).

djh, Thursday, 17 January 2019 22:19 (five years ago) link

Right, the wine double disc compilation ...

djh, Thursday, 17 January 2019 22:19 (five years ago) link

thank you, djh! I will search these out.

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 18 January 2019 00:40 (five years ago) link

Mother Dear from The Hungry Saw has amazing guitar work.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 18 January 2019 01:41 (five years ago) link

I find it hard to pluck songs out of the context The Hungry Saw (beyond "Other Side of the World" which is one of Stuart's best weepers), it's probably their most cohesive album and I just love the closing run so much

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:13 (five years ago) link

"b) Bottle of red one.

c) Bottle of red two."

I am taking my research seriously.

djh, Friday, 18 January 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link

Good God. I have a cluster of songs for disc 2. Would welcome suggestions for the first disc ...

djh, Saturday, 19 January 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link

So, here's where I'm up to (should my liver fail).

Bottle 1

Hey Lucinda
City Sickness
(Tonight) Are You Trying to Fall In Love Again?
Marbles
This Fire of Autumn
Rented Rooms
Peanuts
Buried Bones
Let's Pretend
Help Yourself
Can Our Love ...
Put Your Love in Me?
How He Entered
Paco de Renaldo's Dream

Bottle 2

Trouble Everyday
Piano Song
Dick's Slow Song
Waiting for the Moon
Factory Girls
Tyed
Don't Look Down
Piano Music
Raindrops
The Other Side of the World
Dancing
The Waiting Room
Sleepy Song
Tea Stain
The Organist Entertains.

(It needs to be hacked back).

djh, Monday, 21 January 2019 19:26 (five years ago) link

Trying to make disc one more "going out" ...

djh, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 22:27 (five years ago) link

Disc one needs more Simple Pleasure.

dorsalstop, Thursday, 24 January 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link

Good call.

djh, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:44 (five years ago) link

No love for 'Chocolate'? Ideal accompaniment to red wine surely.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 24 January 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link

That's a really mundane story and the twist at the end is just silly.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 24 January 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link

I think there's quite a lot of warmth and decency in "Chocolate" ... but I'd rarely put it on a compilation.

djh, Thursday, 24 January 2019 16:50 (five years ago) link

"Sometimes It Hurts" has to be on there somewhere. Probably my favourite Tindersticks song.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 24 January 2019 17:24 (five years ago) link

Right, this is the version I'm going to save and come back to:

Bottle 1:
Hey Lucinda
(You Take) This Heart of Mine
Can Our Love?
City Sickness
Marbles
Can We Start Again?
This Fire of Autumn
Help Yourself
Rented Rooms
Travelling Light
How He Entered
Talk To Me
Paco de Renaldo's Dream

Bottle 2:
Mistakes
Trouble Every Day
Piano Song
Dick's Slow Song
Waiting for the Moon
Factory Girls
Tyed
Don't Look Down
If She's Torn
Piano Music
The Other Side of the World
Dancing
The Waiting Room
Seaweed
Sleepy Song
Tea Stain
The Organist Entertains
Raindrops
Cherry Blossoms

(It currently fits on two CDs but not equally; haven't really captured "first bottle", I don't think).

djh, Saturday, 26 January 2019 21:25 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

uh the "Robert Pattinson fronting Tindersticks" song I've been hearing about since High Life premiered at TIFF is finally out and it's fucking beautiful, even though it's clearly R-Patz imitating Stuart as closely as possible

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link

link?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:15 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xNSN6Kd8rI

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link

It's on Spotify too: https://open.spotify.com/track/4CYvguDQISEhomCtNkfPCj?si=7CVdReU4SHyk30Csjy79bg

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:17 (five years ago) link

was just looking at pattinson's upcoming projects and holy shit this guy (and/or his agent) knows how to pick 'em

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link

he really did turn out to be improbably cool

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link

The Twilight movie franchise gave us two of the best actors of our current generation imo

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:40 (five years ago) link

i haven't seen the last of stewart's acclaimed performances, but she still seems to me to be basically hesitant expression + halting speech + running hand through hair.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link

oh wait, did you mean taylor lautner?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link

Kristen Stewart was magnificent in the two most recent Olivier Assayas films.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:45 (five years ago) link

also great in Kelly Reichardt's Certain Women

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link

she's good but there's something depressing about her.

is Pattinson singing that track? or only playing the guitar?

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link

depressing about her performances, i'm sure she's not depressing irl.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 18:57 (five years ago) link

that's Pattinson singing, "in character" apparently

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 19:08 (five years ago) link

as stuart staples?

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link

eight months pass...

New album No Treasure But Hope out November 15.
Apparently laid down in just 5 weeks, as per this interview with Stuart at the Aquarium Drunkard. "The Amputees" sounds lovely.

willem, Sunday, 10 November 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link

There's a second track, "Pinky In The Daylight":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJlhTVCFedk

Not really doing it for me, at the moment. Perhaps it will grow on me?

djh, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

if you water it daily there is hope...

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

Actually, it sounds better when you just ... hear it, listening to the album, doing the washing up ... rather than thinking "I hope this is a good!"

There's one song which should be amazing - "See My Girls" - but which is one of the rare occasions his voice is a bit unlistenable.

djh, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

2020/02/29 Nantes, FR, online until 2020/08/28 (don't know if it's geo-limited)

https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/095603-001-A/tindersticks-live-from-nantes/

StanM, Monday, 2 March 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

dope, thanks!

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 2 March 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

New album Distractions on the way, two songs from it out already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uQ7CDO4_GA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCOM30iRd7k

Not feeling either of these at the moment, I have to say. And I never thought I'd hear my favourite band go electronic :(

Album only has seven tracks of which three are covers. This is shaping up to be an inessential release, but let's see.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 18 January 2021 14:19 (three years ago) link

Stuart's voice seems uniquely ill-suited to the sort of thing he's going for on "Man Alone"

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Monday, 18 January 2021 14:40 (three years ago) link

Agreed.

Looking upthread I realise I never said anything about No Treasure but Hope. It seems to have slipped under the radar somewhat. Anyway I'm listening to it now and it sounds lovely.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 18 January 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link


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