Royal Trux : Classic or Dud ?

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looool, this bodes well for the tour.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:08 (five years ago) link

are they cleaned up? hag seems to have it together, idk as much about jen

GarugBand (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link

Hag's been clean for years afaik

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:29 (five years ago) link

tbh a RTX w out controversy and shenanigans and arguments would not be a true RTX reunion

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:29 (five years ago) link

I dunno, my p.o.v. is that this was probably not meant to work out

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link

yeah i thought the original royal trux breakup was because hagerty got clean and herrema didn't and he got sick of dealing with it, but that might be an oversimplification

na (NA), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:36 (five years ago) link

Exactly - and it makes me wonder about some of the circumstances surrounding the reunion (and other things that aren't really my business).

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link

somebody needs money, duh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:45 (five years ago) link

Well, yes - guess there was a sort of risk/benefit analysis involved.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:52 (five years ago) link

i know it's real because i have done 3 records in 18 months for 3 different entities w/ 3 different groups & all either did not come out &/or were redone and i got paid in $$, identity theft & calumny-- such is the life of a natural heel, it's everything i'd hoped it could be

— Neil Hagerty (@TheHowlingHex) January 17, 2019

na (NA), Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link

hmmmmmmmmmmm

na (NA), Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link

love the use of the word calumny as opposed to libel or slander

GarugBand (rip van wanko), Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:52 (five years ago) link

one of his many tweets that reads like it's responding to something specific but it's unclear what (he knows what's real?)

na (NA), Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:54 (five years ago) link

Suxx if true. Maybe should've hung w/Drag City.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 17 January 2019 21:14 (five years ago) link

(Unless DC is one of those "entities"... I don't know whether Neil & the Hex actually left DC, or just RTX.)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 17 January 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link

I feel bad for Fat Possum as they're probably going to feel the repercussions of all this.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 17 January 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link

investors jumping from windows

calumy (rip van wanko), Thursday, 17 January 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link

I've been thinking for a while I hope Neil didn't burn his bridges at Drag City. I don't think it'd be very easy to convince a label to put out Howling Hex records right now.

Mike Dixn, Friday, 18 January 2019 00:11 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfKblFXTh6s&feature=youtu.be

new video, with no neil (though not much jennifer either tbf)

na (NA), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

love it

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

new MOJO has an awesome Trux feature with lots of infighting during and after the interview

whoa is me (stevie), Friday, 25 January 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link

Another new song... feelin' it even less than the others, TBH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NONE3HlzhkM

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link

It all feels like such a weak facsimile of the late-'90s Trux concept.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:18 (five years ago) link

(plus, y'know, they're not very good songs)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:25 (five years ago) link

everyone probably loved Accelerator because 'Liar' has the greatest riff ever.

that riff is quite good but lame compared to "mouth breather" by the jesus lizard.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

"Mouth Breather" sounds like the "Dancing Days" riff, transmitted into 1990 Chicago via a scuzz-rock fax machine (this is not a value judgment, btw)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 4 February 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link

I've been seeing promos of "White Stuff" all over social media for the past three weeks but I finally listened to the full song just now, and it don't sound bad to me at all

I'm down with "Every Day Swan" too

slack thompson (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 21:18 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

and mark this for following this dumb b.s. but they put out a record that i hadn't heard and still haven't heard and then lied and said I had approved it

— Neil Hagerty (@TheHowlingHex) February 22, 2019

he was tweeting other stuff that seemed related to the new album this morning

na (NA), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link

"basically a debtors' prison situation" yeesh

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2019 15:42 (five years ago) link

The “tour” is back on, new dates announced y’day... but who would buy tix now?

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link

dunno, literally the only place there's any indication of this stuff is hagerty's twitter! kind of surprised someone hasn't dug deeper into it (possible I've missed an article, not sure)

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2019 15:47 (five years ago) link

haw

TOUR TALK..... best believe. pic.twitter.com/e4XLIYJtcm

— ROYAL TRUX (@realroyaltrux) February 22, 2019

(of course this is from last november)

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2019 17:00 (five years ago) link

Wonder if he’s cool w/his email addy getting out there (remember in the ‘90s when it was something like “karlmar✧✧✧@a✧✧.c✧✧”?)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link

(weird, that censorship was some ILX auto thing)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link

neil hagerty has the weirdest range of interests of any 'celebrity' i can think of. just a strange dude.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link

i mean for long stretches he seems almost painfully 'normie' and then he posts about some truly strange shit and you remember he was (is?) in royal trux.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:34 (five years ago) link

he's also incredibly online, which i would not have predicted had you asked me a decade or two ago.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

he seems like a chill guy who likes cool stuff

na (NA), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

that's another way to put it.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link

i guess you might expect something edgier

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link

he doesn't seem very chill about the economics of touring w/ trux, tbf

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link

He’s a pretty intelligent dude. He’s written v good essays on a variety of general interest subjects (many of which collected in a book, “Public Works”).

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

ooh, i hadn't known about that, thank you

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

Looks like the situation finally got a write-up/investigation:

https://www.stereogum.com/2033256/royal-trux-twitter-drama/wheres-the-beef/

yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 23 February 2019 20:14 (five years ago) link

Now someone's spoken to Neil:

http://dustedmagazine.tumblr.com/post/183074880168/royal-trux-white-stuff-fat-possum

After tracking the record in June 2018, Hagerty split due to an unspecified disagreement. Herrema and a bundle of friends worked the tracks into their album versions — hence the Bitches Brew approach — and submitted the record to Fat Possum, along with assurance that Hagerty had approved.

He had not. And when contacted for comment said he still hasn’t heard any of the music from the record. He did, however, say that Fat Possum has handled the situation “the best they could,” and noted he was “overjoyed” not to be working with the band’s previous label.

[...]

“The operative vision for me on this was Sunset Boulevard and I tried not to end up in the pool” Hagerty said when asked about the record. “If she had just told me it was going to be a solo thing I would have been fine with it but the way they are trying to drag me back into it now is degenerate stuff.”

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link

That's interesting. I really don't think I've ever heard anything particularly awful about Drag City. Wonder what that's all about.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 20:18 (five years ago) link

Yeah, me too...

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 20:21 (five years ago) link

This is "out there'. Gave it one listen and all i can say - as a longtime Trux fan --Summer Album! Instantly catchy.

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 February 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link

yeah i don't hate this on first listen. as expected, it's way more in jennifer's aesthetic than neil's, lots of processing and overlapping vocals and lyrics about rock and roll. one weird thing i noticed is that there are almost no moments with neil singing without jennifer doubling his vocals. it makes me wonder if he was singing along with her guide vocals. unexpectedly "suburban junky lady" might be the best song on here.

i hated the kool keith song when i heard it as an advance single. i liked it more this time but it doesn't belong on a "royal trux" album. should've saved it for judgement night 2.

na (NA), Friday, 1 March 2019 20:01 (five years ago) link

Publicity photos of the duo (see above) were clearly photoshopped together;

lol

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 1 March 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link


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