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I think those clocks are important for mastering, getting the CD to talk to the CPU in a manner that allows the whole enterprise to function -- I think they're mainly for mastering engineers

I could be wrong but I know timing stuff is part of that whole aspect of the process of getting a record from tape to WAV to release

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 20:23 (five years ago) link

predicating your product on rare sub-millisecond glitches being human perceptible is something, for sure

mh, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 20:27 (five years ago) link

right, like, the stability of the random 10Mhz crystal that costs $0.37 when you buy at least a thousand I looked up on digikey is ±50ppm or something, so like…at worst you get 9,999,500 cycles in a given second instead of 10 million or something. That's 0.05% error I think.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 20:32 (five years ago) link

I think a timing error at the mastering or production level would cost more than this machine, so (if that is in fact the use of this machine) if I were delivering files for production I'd err on the side of the too-accurate insurance policy

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 20:34 (five years ago) link

I think one of these also powered the Enterprise.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 20:35 (five years ago) link

The CG-10M is a master clock generator that brings out the best performance from USB DACs, network players, CD players and any other kind of device that supports a 10MHz clock input.

this part of the description makes me think it's being marketed to consumers. the two products it mentions in the compatibility section appear to be desktop headphone amplifiers, not meant for production but listening

mh, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link

fwiw here's a technical article on the subject https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/does-your-studio-need-digital-master-clock

looks like their conclusions are that even in production work, an external clock is still of dubious benefit

mh, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 20:46 (five years ago) link

was about to post the same link lol

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 20:51 (five years ago) link

I want the analog master clock. It moves smoothly thru time instead of leaping from millisecond to millisecond. Much smoother — anyone with ears can hear the difference! Crisper highs, rounder lows, more articulate high mids, and the low mids just caress you.

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link

also nobody knows why but the wood paneling on the analogue master clock really warms up the sound

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:30 (five years ago) link

I want the analog master clock. It moves smoothly thru time instead of leaping from millisecond to millisecond. Much smoother — anyone with ears can hear the difference! Crisper highs, rounder lows, more articulate high mids, and my wife didn’t leave me when the low mids just caress you.

― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:16 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

budo jeru, Thursday, 17 January 2019 00:22 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTj08qTwGw

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 17 January 2019 01:08 (five years ago) link

i love everything about that video and watch it at least twice a year

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 January 2019 01:47 (five years ago) link

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE POOR ELECTRONS

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 17 January 2019 02:00 (five years ago) link

Is there more? Can I see his effects rack? Please?

maffew12, Thursday, 17 January 2019 02:05 (five years ago) link

the shit he says about electrons in crystals vs vacuum isn't actually so bad

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 17 January 2019 02:27 (five years ago) link

it's accurate and also hilarious

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 January 2019 02:35 (five years ago) link

The very '80s effects rack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuTLl1JbUdM

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 17 January 2019 03:06 (five years ago) link

I think a timing error at the mastering or production level would cost more than this machine, so (if that is in fact the use of this machine) if I were delivering files for production I'd err on the side of the too-accurate insurance policy

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi)

so would blaise pascal

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Thursday, 17 January 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

Alexander Dumble is a legend

Dumble musical instrument amplifiers are custom manufactured in very limited numbers by Alexander "Howard" Dumble of Los Angeles, California. Dumble is a one-person operation; each amp is handcrafted by Dumble himself, and Dumble amplifiers are the most expensive boutique amplifiers on the used market.[1] These costs are rising rapidly. In 2012 the Dumble Overdrive Special was described as the most valuable, with used amplifiers fetching on average between $70,000 and $150,000 apiece.[2] Other examples have sold for more. [3]

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 17 January 2019 12:19 (five years ago) link

http://www.wiredguitarist.com/2016/06/04/analyzing-the-hype-dumble-overdrive-special/

Why Is It So Hyped?

It’s probably better to ask why not isn’t it? The myth surrounding both the amp and the man is ridiculous, but here is a breakdown of the main reasons.

it's as if the amps have a special power, making it impossible to speak or write coherently about them.

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 17 January 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link

Hey is this the thread wherein I can ask legit questions about record cleaning machines?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 17 January 2019 17:57 (five years ago) link

It depends, how much can I charge you for a microfiber that came free with my glasses?

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 17 January 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

*checks wallet, bank statement, HELOC*

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:01 (five years ago) link

xxp I think my friend has one of those spin-clean ones and is content with it

local record store has a nitty gritty or w/e but obviously they receive some absolute garbage

I get where silby's coming from, but buying used stuff or digging through bins you do end up with the occasional record that is in fine condition but looks like someone dunked it in mud

mh, Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:04 (five years ago) link

don't you want the warm mud tones to come through on playback tho

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

I’ve been buying & selling enough LPs that I think I could use one. I’ve been looking at a VPI 16.5 and a Music Hall wSc3

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link

the real question is whether it can clean the mud off the mp3 download code card, right

mh, Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link

i'm a big SpinClean convert, p sure i've raved about it on this or some other thread. mud removal is excellent, sometimes doesn't end up changing much, sometimes it's the sonic equivalent of windexing a window that's been accumulating dirt for ten years. but fwiw it's not a machine, just a well-designed plastic bathtub. you do all the spinning with your hands.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:11 (five years ago) link

I am told wood glue can clean even the filthiest record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gyvipBs6Vs

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:23 (five years ago) link

I bought a junker deck for the express purpose of trying this but I have yet to actually do it.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link

WHOA. I wonder what the removed gluesheet would sound like if you played it.

mick signals, Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

seem to recall that there are some pretty scary stories re the glue method out there.
its definitely for the more adventurous record collector.

mark e, Thursday, 17 January 2019 18:35 (five years ago) link

maybe get an anti-static gun too

brimstead, Thursday, 17 January 2019 19:05 (five years ago) link

I've heard people irl that have done it w/success

I mean...I'd try it on a dollar bin record first

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 January 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link

I just used Record Revirginiser for the first time (specially formulated wood glue type product) and it has made a crackly old copy of Avalon sound pretty incredible

umsworth (emsworth), Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:19 (five years ago) link

Mr. Dumble, a man, a human in flesh
But not by law
I feed you dignity to stand with pride
Realize that all in all you stand tall
Go ahead, Mr. Dumble
Mr. Dumble, yeah
Lord, Mr. Dumble

why date Ryan Adams in the first place? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 18 January 2019 00:54 (five years ago) link

I tried the glue thing, and the hardest part was removing the glue from the outer edge of the record - you have to make sure it's as thick there as on the grooves.

Haven't tried this, but it seems easier, ultimately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_jrJZuf5oA

eva logorrhea (bendy), Friday, 18 January 2019 13:12 (five years ago) link

I kind of want to make a video like that with a very subtle intro that ends with me blasting the heck out of some records with a pressure washer at a car wash

mh, Friday, 18 January 2019 15:17 (five years ago) link

i've had the guy at my local record store clean records with his VPI machine, i wish i had one of those

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link

I just took the plunge and ordered one.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:48 (five years ago) link

Matthew McConaughey lives more casually than I had imagined

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 18 January 2019 21:41 (five years ago) link

I just took the plunge and ordered one.

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, January 18, 2019 9:48 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

awesome !!

enjoy all your new dirty-vinyl-toting friends :)

budo jeru, Friday, 18 January 2019 23:34 (five years ago) link

in all seriousness, a friend of mine has one of these. given the size of his collection and the amount of records he sells online, it was a solid investment and it’s been running nice n smooth for years.

budo jeru, Saturday, 19 January 2019 01:25 (five years ago) link

well I just bought a bunch of dirty country LPs from an estate sale so this time next week I'll be able to give a report.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 19 January 2019 02:56 (five years ago) link

David Allan Coe?

mick signals, Saturday, 19 January 2019 03:55 (five years ago) link

haha close enough

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 19 January 2019 04:03 (five years ago) link

WHOA. I wonder what the removed gluesheet would sound like if you played it.

the voice of satan

Bênoit Balls (stevie), Sunday, 20 January 2019 18:59 (five years ago) link

horse ghosts. with just an abominable soundstage.

maffew12, Sunday, 20 January 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link


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